토론:캠페인/재단 제품 팀/등록/2021년 10월

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프로젝트 원칙 및 와이어프레임 [구독]

다음은 프로젝트 와이어프레임에 대한 의견에서 들은 내용을 요약한 것입니다:

“캠페인 주최자로서 행사 등록 생성 및 관리를 위해 제안된 시스템에 대해 어떻게 생각하십니까? 현재 시스템과 비교하여 어떤 이점을 제공합니까? 현재 시스템에 비해 어떤 단점이 있습니까?”

• 사람들은 위키에 등록 솔루션을 구축하는 아이디어를 지지합니다. 이는 주최자의 경험을 단순화하고 참가자에게 보다 응집력 있는 위키미디어 경험을 제공하며 사람들이 캠페인 행사에 등록하는 것이 훨씬 더 쉬운 방법이 될 것이기 때문입니다.
• 이메일 주소 요구사항: 두 명의 주최자가 캠페인 등록자가 계정과 연결된 이메일 주소를 갖고 있어야 한다고 말합니다. 이는 많은 캠페인 참가자, 특히 신입 및 주니어 편집자가 일반적으로 사용자 토론 페이지를 보지 않기 때문입니다. 프로젝트를 조사할 때 이 요청을 고려할 것입니다.
• 참가자들의 커뮤니케이션 방식 지정: 다른 사람들이 디지털 방식으로 커뮤니케이션하는 방식이 다르기 때문에 주최측이 어떤 플랫폼에서 연락을 하고 싶은지 참가자들에게 지정해 달라는 요청이 있었습니다. 우리는 이것이 많은 의미가 있다는 데 동의합니다. 등록 도구의 초기 버전에 통합할 수 있는 것은 아닐 것입니다. 이를 가능하게 하는 데는 많은 복잡성이 수반되기 때문입니다. 그러나 그것은 우리가 등록 솔루션의 첫 번째 버전을 출시하고 다음에 구축할 것에 대해 생각한 후 나중에 생각하게 될 것입니다. 저희도 앞으로 커뮤니케이션 지원에 더 많은 시간을 할애하여 커뮤니케이션 프로젝트를 진행할 때 이 요청 사항을 검토할 수 있도록 할 예정입니다.
• 행사 캘린더: 캠페인 주최자가 자신의 행사를 쉽게 홍보하고 캠페인 참가자가 행사에 대해 쉽게 알 수 있도록 행사 캘린더를 만들 것인지 물었습니다. 이것은 훌륭한 요청이며 우리는 그것이 중요하다는 데 절대적으로 동의합니다. 이러한 이유로 등록 기능을 구축한 후 주최자가 캠페인 이벤트 페이지를 쉽게 생성할 수 있는 도구를 구축할 수 있으며 그들이 생성한 이벤트 페이지가 글로벌 캠페인 이벤트 캘린더에 자동으로 추가될 수 있도록 고려하고 있습니다(여기서 사용자는 다양한 검색 필터를 적용하여 위키, 위치, 주제 등으로 캠페인을 찾을 수 있습니다). 이것은 우리가 미래에 생각하게 될 것이며 우리에게도 높은 우선순위입니다. 전체 토론 보기

“행사 페이지에 참가자를 등록하기 위해 제안된 경험에 대해 어떻게 생각하십니까? 현재 시스템과 비교하여 어떤 이점을 제공합니까? 현재 시스템에 비해 어떤 단점이 있습니까?”

• 캠페인 행사명: 캠페인 행사 이름이 혼동될 수 있음을 알려드립니다. 이는 향후 더 큰 캠페인 행사 플랫폼(행사 캘린더 및 기타 기능이 포함될 예정임)을 가질 계획이지만, 우리가 생성하는 초기 버전에는 등록 도구가 있는 주최자 센터만 있을 것이기 때문입니다. 이것은 완전한 "캠페인 행사" 경험이 아니므로 이름이 약간 일치하지 않는 것 같습니다. 우리는 이것이 혼란스러울 수 있다는 데 동의하며 실제로 팀으로 논의했습니다. 지금까지는 "캠페인 행사" 공간이 다른 기능과 함께 모든 캠페인 행사에 대해 배울 수 있는 장소가 될 것이라고 생각하므로 해당 공간에 적합한 이름을 선택하고 싶습니다. 이렇게 하면 모든 위키 언어에 대한 번역을 한 번만 가져오면 됩니다. "주최자 센터"나 "등록 도구"과 같은 짧은 이름을 선택하면 두 차례의 번역을 수행해야 하므로 자원 봉사자 번역가의 요청이 많습니다. 그래서 우리는 단순히 장기적인 비전을 가장 잘 반영한다고 생각하는 이름을 선택했습니다. 그러나 우리는 제안에 열려 있습니다. 어떻게 생각해? 더 좋은 이름이 있다고 생각하십니까? 우리는 아이디어에 열려 있습니다!
• 주최측에서 직접 참가자 등록 요청: 주최측에서 참가자를 직접 추가할 수 있는지에 대한 질문이 있었습니다. 이것이 사람들에게 도움이 될 수 있다는 것을 이해하지만 이에 대한 우려가 많습니다. 신뢰 및 안전의 관점에서 사람들은 참여하고 싶지 않은 캠페인에 다른 사람들을 추가하여 괴롭힐 수 있습니다. 데이터 신뢰성의 관점에서, 주최자가 참가자가 자신을 추가하는 대신 사용자 이름을 참가자로 추가할 수 있는 경우 캠페인 등록자 데이터가 덜 정확해 보일 수 있습니다. 그러나 앞으로는 주최자가 참가자를 이메일이나 채팅으로 전송된 간단한 "가입" 링크를 통해 캠페인 이벤트에 쉽게 참가하도록 초대하는 기능을 구축할 수 있습니다. 유용할까요? 여러분의 생각이 궁금합니다!
• 온보딩 지원 요청: 이것은 훌륭한 요청이며 이에 대해 더 알고 싶습니다! 캠페인 참가자가 이벤트에 등록한 후 온보딩이 정확히 어떻게 작동하기를 원하십니까? 가능한 한 많은 세부 정보를 제공하십시오. 많을수록 좋습니다! 자세한 내용이 파악되면 향후 검토할 수 있는 사항에 대해 생각할 수 있습니다.

Full thread for project principles & wireframes feedback (October 2021)

FR : (Retour d'information sur les principes du projet et les maquettes (octobre 2021).)

@Din-nani1, Bobbyshabangu, Gilbert Ndihokubwayo, Alhassan Mohammed Awal, Owula kpakpo, Eric Luth (WMSE), White Orchid27, Kaffzz, Tochiprecious, Ruby D-Brown, Bachounda, T Cells, Nemo bis, Econterms, and Lea Lacroix (WMDE):

Hello, everyone! We have just posted a status update, which includes our project principles and the wireframes for the desktop version of the registration tool. We invite you to share your feedback on the update, which is very important to us and will help determine the next steps we take. Thank you in advance! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 21:41, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

What do you think of our proposed system for creating and managing event registration, as a campaign organizer? What benefits does it offer compared to your current system? What disadvantages does it have compared to your current system?

FR : (Que pensez-vous du système que nous proposons pour créer et gérer les inscriptions aux événements, en tant qu'organisateur de campagne ? Quels avantages offre-t-il par rapport à votre système actuel ? Quels sont les inconvénients qu'il présente par rapport à votre système actuel ?)

It is completely helpful to create this type of tool since this organizes the complex way of registering for an event or creating one; complex in the perspective of a newbie participant. Registering as a newbie will always start with clicking the “edit” button, which would mean actually editing a page rather than just signing up. Though there are options wherein you can just click the “Sign Up” button but that will still prompt you to a page with an editing space then typing “~~~~” and then clicking publish. With this new system, it will be like filling up an online form. The interface is not overwhelming, the language is simple, and it is both understandable for both the organizer and the participant.Kunokuno (talk) 15:13, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: Thank you for your response, and we're very happy to read that you support our initiative to simplify the campaign registration process! We completely agree that the on-wiki solutions that organizers use now are uninviting to newcomers, since they require people to: 1) click edit or be in the edit interface, and 2) use their signature. This is not how people think about registering for an event nowadays, so it can be very confusing. We hope that our solution will simplify work processes for organizers and create a better user experience for participants. Thank you again! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

We currently use Eventbrite for registration. It's familiar to most and easy to use. We like it, but it is not a branded Wikimedia project. It seems that the new tool will streamline the process and present a more cohesive look. We like Eventbrite because we are able to quickly email all participants at once. This has been helpful when sending Zoom links for online events and other announcements. My concern is that messages to registrants through the new tool may go unnoticed if only sent to talk pages. 80 percent of our attendees are brand new to editing. While asking them the check talk pages for messages seems straight-forward, there may still be a learning curve. Is there a way to require an email address at the time of event registration? This would be incredible helpful in hopes of not letting anyone fall through the cracks. At this point, it seems that emails are only available for those who opted to share when establishing usernames.-Ariel Cetrone (WMDC) (talk) 19:19, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ariel Cetrone (WMDC): Thank you for your comment and helpful insights regarding communication with participants! We understand that one of the big benefits of third-party registration platforms like Eventbrite is the communication support they provide. For this reason, we also want the campaign events platform to have communication support, but we'll need to incrementally build it over time, since there will be technical complexities involved. However, there are definitely things that we can look into early on. First, you asked about messaging campaign participants via email (since most people do not look at their talk pages). Yes, we agree that this is crucial. For this reason, we plan to create an option for organizers to message people to either their talk pages, their email addresses, or both. The second question was whether we could require campaign registrants to associate an email address with their wiki account. This is something we will consider, especially if they are newly creating a wiki account in order to join a campaign event. Once we have a better idea around this question, we can update the project page. Thank you again for these helpful insights! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:27, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

So far this looks like an very helpful addition to hosting and managing events on wiki. We often face some difficulty with a unified registration system, sometimes using eventbrite, sometimes institution specific platforms, and other times relying on pages through FB events or the like. This would serve as a single place closing the loop. I have two questions about the system in general. First, does it also collect off-wiki contact (emails)? Often times with new users they do not know to return and see notices on their talk page. It would be very useful if that information was collected when users registered as well. The second question is whether you can browse or see a larger calendar of events across wiki? When we think about how to encourage new editors to return to editing and soon, it would be v useful for them to be able to see upcoming open events online and in-person. --Raggachampiongirl (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Raggachampiongirl: Thank you so much for checking out our plans and sharing your questions! We're so happy to read hat the registration solution could be useful for you, as an organizer. We also agree with the belief that organizing processes and workflows should be simplified and more centralized to a common on-wiki experience. Regarding your questions, you first asked about the collection of email addresses. This is a great question, and Ariel also asked about it above! We know that organizers find it essential to communicate with participants via email and/or talk pages. For this reason, we plan to build support for a system where organizers can email some, all, or specific participants. We will also be considering if we require participants to have an email address associated with their username. Second, you asked about the creation of an event calendar. We consider this a high-priority future project (along with a tool for easy event page creation), so we're glad you asked about this! Once we know about future projects, we'll update our subscription list and team page. Thank you again for your questions and support! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you IFried (WMF) (talk) looking forward to next developments.--Raggachampiongirl (talk) 19:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Currently, we use Project dashboard and Eventbrite to register and manage events and users for our events. Unlike other event registration, the interface is seated inside a Wikipedia interface, and it can provide a sort of comfort to Wikimedians. Also, it looks simple to operate and quite interactive. However, in the Outreach dashboard, an organizer can onboard event participants directly to an event. I noticed that this is not the case here. This platform only makes provision for reminders to be sent email addresses of participants.I would like to see a case where a participant can select their preferred point where they could be reminded of an upcoming event, eg DM of social media. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 07:20, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@Olaniyan Olushola: Thank you so much for the feedback; we really appreciate it! It's good to know that you like the onboarding support in the Dashboard for new campaign registrants. We have a question: What do you like about it, in particular? What do you find to be most helpful, and why? We would love to learn more! As for communication support, we completely agree that the goal should be to eventually expand communication support. For now, in the first version, we are hoping to allow organizers to send messages via email and/or user talk page, and/or they can direct participants to a chat group on a third-party platforms, such as on Whatsapp or Telegram. But, later on, we would love if participants can specify exactly how they want to be contacted and we could investigate building support to make that happen. Of course, this would take time to build, and there would be lots of complexity around it, but it's something we could look into. In the meantime, we'll be keeping this suggestion in mind as we move forward, both on this project and in future projects. Thank you again! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 18:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

The idea is a very welcome solution. It will be most helpful to have all my campaign tools on-site. Priority should be given to communication modes and a reliable form of reminders. Of course, i know it'll take some time to get things right, but it surely pays to solve crucial problems at an early stage. Great work!--OtuNwachinemere (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Everyone who commented on this question so far, thank you so much! We also encourage people to add new comments; there's still more time to share feedback. For now, here's a summary of what we have heard in the comments:

• People support the idea of building a registration solution on-wiki, since it will simplify the experience for organizers, provide a more cohesive Wikimedia experience for participants, and it will be a much easier method for people to register for campaign events.
• Email address requirement: We heard two organizers say that they would like it be required that campaign registrants have an email address associated with their accounts. This is because many campaign participants, especially newcomers and junior editors, do not commonly look at their user talk pages. We'll consider this request as we dig into the project.
• Participants specifying communication method: There was a request to allow participants to specify on what platform they would like to be contacted by the organizer, since different people communicate digitally in different ways. We agree that this makes a lot of sense. It's not probably something we can incorporate in an early version of the registration tool, since there is a lot of complexity involved in making it possible. But it's certainly something we will think about later, after we release the first version of the registration solution and then think about what we build out next. We also plan to spend more time working on communication support in the future, so we could look into this request when we take on a communication project.
• Event calendar: We were asked if we will be building an event calendar, so that campaign organizers can easily publicize their events and campaign participants can easily learn about events. This is a great request, and we absolutely agree that it's important. For this reason, we're considering that, after we build out the registration feature, we may build a tool that allows organizers to easily create campaign event pages, and the event pages they create can be automatically added to a global campaign events calendar (in which users can apply various search filters to find campaigns by wiki, location, topic, etc). This is something we'll be thinking about in the future, and it's high-priority for us too.

Thank you again, everyone! Your feedback is so crucial to our work, and we deeply appreciate it! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 18:54, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Firstly, I agree with this summary of comments.

Secondly, maybe for the MVP version it is complicated, but it would also be ideal that the organizers can upload the event flyer when they create it and by doing this it is already hosted on Commons. would it be possible? Because many edit-a-thon organizers don't upload the images to Commons because this platform and learning how to use it are not included in their activity. We have to kindly ask them to upload them later, when they are already past the on-wiki experience. Pablísima (talk) 22:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

One other thing: one way to provisionally solve the communication between organizers and participants could be that when a person registers for an event on the wiki page, he/she receives an automatic email with all the information about the event and the organization's contact information (email, website, social media). Pablísima (talk) 22:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pablísima: Thank you so much for both of your comments! First, we are happy to read that you agree with the summary of comments. Second, regarding your question about uploading a flyer to Commons: I think this is a great idea for a future project that we are planning on event creation. For this project, organizers will be able to create event pages in a very easy way, without needing to use wikitext, formatting, complex templates, etc. So, when organizers create an event page with a basic form, we can ask them if they have an event flyer, which can be uploaded to Commons. Thanks for this idea; I have added it to the team notes for the future event creation project! We are not working on this project now, but we are thinking that we may work on it after the registration project (and we may be able to take some steps to work on it in the scope of the registration project, which we're still trying to figure out). Third, you agree with us! We also plan to generate an automatic email when users first register (with information like the event name, date, time, etc). Of course, this email will only be sent if there is an email address associated with the account. The question we are trying to figure out now is what happens if, for example, the organizer changes the date or time of the event, or if the organizer wants to send a reminder that the event is happening in one hour. Would that be done via email, or user talk page, or via the Whatsapp/Telegram group? We want to give the organizer as many options as possible, so we're seeing what we can do. Also, if you have suggestions on how you like to update participants on event changes and what support you would expect from the software we build, we would love to hear it. Thank you again for your feedback and support! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

L'idée globale de cet outil d'inscription est tellement géniale car sa facilite beaucoup de chose aux organisateurs des campagnes ; premièrement sur le plan de papierasse (inscription sur papier ou dans d'autre outils en ligne, puis les transcrire manuelement sur la page de l'événement) et çava aider aussi d'éviter de surprise (de se retrouver avec plus ou moins de participants que preuvu). Mais ça peux aussi nous amené encore quelques difficultés ; pour que le participants s'inscrit, il faut qu'il puisse avoir le lien de la page de l'événement et internet, or chez nous on sait déjà que l'internet ce du luxe et aussi ce ne pas tout le monde qui a un smartphone sur lequel il peut recevoir le lien de la page de notre part. Au delà de célà, le processus d'inscription n'est pas toujours facile pour les novices qui seront d'abord appélé à se créer le compte seul, puis revenir se connecter afin de s'inscrire.--VALENTIN NVJ (talk) 13:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@VALENTIN NVJ (Excuses si mon français est mauvais ; n'hésitez pas à demander des éclaircissements, si vous en avez besoin) Nous vous remercions pour vos impressions! Vos commentaires sur les difficultés que les gens peuvent rencontrer sont vraiment utiles. En résumé, vous avez écrit que les défis peuvent inclure : les participants n'ayant pas une bonne connexion Internet ou accessibilité, et la difficulté de créer un compte avant de s'inscrire. Je me demande ce qui pourrait aider à résoudre ces problèmes. Par exemple, recommandez-vous que les organisateurs aient la possibilité d'ajouter des personnes en tant que participants (s'ils ont du mal à s'inscrire) ? Recommandez-vous que les gens puissent s'inscrire en se basant uniquement sur l'adresse e-mail (ou un autre identifiant d'abord), et qu'ils créent ensuite un compte lors de l'événement ? J'aimerais savoir ce que vous pensez pourrait aider la situation. Merci d'avance! IFried (WMF) (talk) IFried (WMF) (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• C’est intéressant et je l’avais dit plus haut. Ce système sera intégré à notre système actuel et je trouve que c’est intéressant. Je ne trouve aucun inconvénient.--Adoscam (talk) 09:02, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Adoscam Merci pour votre avis! Nous sommes très heureux de lire que vous trouvez le projet utile et qu'il n'y a pas d'inconvénient majeur. Nous sommes impatients de lire plus de commentaires de votre part lorsque nous aurons de futures mises à jour. Merci! IFried (WMF) (talk) IFried (WMF) (talk) 15:33, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

  Je suis disponible. Adoscam (talk) 15:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

What do you think of our proposed experience for registering participants on the event page? What benefits does it offer compared to your current system? What disadvantages does it have compared to your current system?

FR : (Que pensez-vous de l'expérience que nous proposons pour l'inscription des participants sur la page de l'événement ? Quels avantages offre-t-elle par rapport à votre système actuel ? Quels inconvénients présente-t-elle par rapport à votre système actuel ?)

I see this as a solution for actually creating an organized event even from the start of the project. It is usually a burden for organizers to keep track of participants, especially if it was organized single-handedly. Some may register on the event page you create on Meta, others may use the outreach dashboard, and for some instance, participants usually neglect to register. However, if this will be incorporated on wikipedia pages, and be one of the options of the drop down menu, the label “Campaign Events” may be misleading. I see it as something which contains an enumeration of campaigns I can join in. But, by the time I clicked it, it brought me to a Registration Creation page instead of seeing a list of current campaign events.Kunokuno (talk) 15:16, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

This is quite simple and user friendly compared to our current event registration platform. Unlike our previous platform, participants don't need to understand any wiki Markup e.g. the template for signing on Wikipedia. However, I wish the interface could accommodate a scenario where an event organizer can register/onboard its proposed participant for an event directly to the interface. I also want where multiple participants can be on-boarded at once for effective time management, this is found on the outreach dashboard.Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 08:08, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno and Olaniyan Olushola: Thank you both for your feedback! We're very happy to hear that you two find our plans to be an improvement, which will make it easier for participants to register and for campaign organizers to manage registration. Also, you both brought up some great questions and themes, which I'll respond to in the points below:

• Campaign Events name: It was brought up that the Campaign Events name may be confusing. This is because, while we plan to have a larger Campaign Events platform in the future (which will probably have an event calendar and other features), the early version that we create will just have the Organizer Center with the Registration tool. This isn't a complete "Campaign events" experience, so the name seems a bit mismatched. We agree that this can be confusing, and we have actually discussed it as a team. Our thinking so far is that the "Campaign Events" space will eventually have a place to learn about all campaign events, along with other features, so we want to pick the right name for that space. This way, we only need to get translations for all the wiki languages once. If we picked a short-term name, like "Organizer Center" or "Registration Tool," we would need to do two rounds of translations, which is a large request for volunteer translators. So we simply chose the name that we think best reflects the long-term vision. However, we're open to suggestions. What do you think? Do you think there is a better name? We're open to ideas!
• Request for organizer to register participants directly: There was a question about organizers being able to add participants directly. While we understand that this could be helpful for people, there are a lot of concerns around this. From a Trust & Safety perspective, people could harass other people by adding them to campaigns that they do not want to be a part of. From a data reliability standpoint, campaign registrant data may seem less accurate if any organizer can add any username as a participant, rather than having the participant add themselves. However, we could perhaps build a feature in the future where organizers invite participants to easily join a campaign event via a simple "join" link sent to their email or chat. Would that be useful? I would be curious to hear your thoughts!
• Request for onboarding support: This is a great request, and we would love to learn more about it! How, exactly, would you like onboarding to work after campaign participants register for an event. Please provide as many details as you can; the more, the better! Once we have more details, we can think about what may possible for us to look into in the future.

Thank you again, and I look forward to your responses! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Je pense que l’expérience que vous proposez pour l’inscription des participants sur la page des événements est innovante et nous donne l’occasion de l’utilisation d’une plateforme intégrée à celle utilisée dans le mouvement et ça c’est unique. C’est ce que je pense.--Adoscam (talk) 09:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Adoscam Merci beaucoup pour vos commentaires ! Nous sommes heureux d'apprendre que vous pensez que c'est innovant. Très appréciée! IFried (WMF) (talk) IFried (WMF) (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

We first plan to build a lean version (also known as the “MVP,” or minimum viable product version) of the registration tool. What are the essential features this first version needs to have so that you can use it?"

FR : (Nous prévoyons d'abord de construire une version allégée (également appelée "MVP", ou version du produit minimum viable) de l'outil d'inscription. Quelles sont les fonctionnalités essentielles que cette première version doit avoir pour que vous puissiez l'utiliser ?)

The form mentioned tracking tools. I think it would be helpful to link it to the actual tools to also cater even those first time organizers. But, for an experienced editor, this tool is already manageable since it is somewhat similar with the Wiki projects interface. Also, once the registration is published and appears on the main page, if you click the three dots beside it, there appears a P & E Dashboard. Will it change to a Hashtag tracker if I opted to use this specific tool for tracking my participants’ edits? Also, will these options only appear on the organizer’s account or will it be accessed even without logging in? Transferring from a Wiki project into another tool usually has authentication , will this also have that? Kunokuno (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: Thank you for your response and questions! As for the three dots, are you referring to this image? If yes, then whichever tracking tools the organizer has specified they use (such as "Dashboard" or "Hashtag tool") will show up in the options available for the event, and they can click on the link. The link will be what the organizer provided when configuring the registration form. So, for example, if you chose to use the Programs and Events Dashboard and you gave this URL for the tracking instance, a new tab would open with that URL when you clicked on "Dashboard." Overall, we aren't building any new tracking infrastructure or support within the wikis for this project. We're just creating integration between registration and tracking tools. However, in the future, we do hope to improve tracking tools, since we know this is a high-priority request for organizers. You can learn more about our long-term plans & vision on our team project page. Does that makes sense, and did I understand your question correctly? I would love to hear more, and thank you in advance! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:27, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you've understood my question correctly. I am also hoping that in the future there will be an integration of both the event registration and the tracking tool that can actually generate statistics. Organizers, apart from being too absorbed and busy during the pre-event and the actual tutorial and edit-a-thon, are also obliged to keep track of the results. Not to mention that they'd also be needing to document the whole event, creating write-ups and uploading event photos. They'd also keep track on the expenses if it was a WMF funded event. So, creating this tool which your team is currently developing is indeed of big help to us organizers. Kunokuno (talk) 16:31, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: Apologies for the late response; I must have missed it while I was on holiday break. Also, thank you for the response! Yes, we are planning to integrate registration with tracking tools! Here's what we mean: With our new registration tool, organizers will be able to specify if they are using a tracking tool, like the Programs and Events Dashboard and/or EventMetrics. If they are using one of those tools, any new participant who registers for the campaign event can have their username automatically pushed to the tracking tool instance specified by the organizer (on the P+E Dashboard or EventMetrics). This way, organizers will not need to manually add usernames to the tracking dashboard themselves. This is already our plan for the registration project, but we also have plans for future projects. In the future, we would like to improve and expand the tracking options available to campaign organizers as a separate initiative. We don't know the details yet, but we plan to make various improvements to tracking over time. Thank you so much for this comment and all of your helpful insights on the talk page! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

With MVP, is it possible to group all events created within the same campaign? This can be done in the Dashboard for metrics and is very helpful because, for example, Art+Feminism events have very different names.--Pablísima (talk) 22:37, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pablísima: Thank you for your question; it brings up a really interesting idea! For the first version of the event registration tool, it will probably be pretty basic, since we want to release something early on to collect feedback. This means that, in the first version, the organizer will be able to add registration support to a Wikimedia event page, and organizers will have an internal dashboard, where they can see registration statistics for all of their events that used the registration tool. In this first version, there probably will not be the ability to group events. However, I do think this is something we will want to add, since many campaigns are "meta campaigns" with multiple events. We may consider adding a grouping feature in the second version of the registration tool, or we may do it when we develop a tool for creating event pages. So, overall, the answer is: Not immediately, but yes, we do plan to offer the grouping of campaign events in time. We just need to work out some of the details of exactly how and when (and when we do, we'll update people in our subscription list). Thank you again for this great question! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:37, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

• Pour la version allégée (également appelée « MVP » en cours, nous souhaitons les fonctionnalités suivantes :

Modifier le Formulaire, Partager le Formulaire, Participations (onglet actif)

Analyse du Tableau du Formulaire, Téléchargement et Effacement/suppression du Formulaire, Filtrer les résultats en fonction de leur confirmation (participations non-confirmées ou confirmées).--Adoscam (talk) 09:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

@Adoscam Merci! J'ai 2 questions complémentaires : Quelle analyse souhaitez-vous pour le tableau du formulaire ? Et quand vous dites participants confirmés et non confirmés, qu'entendez-vous exactement ? Qu'est-ce qu'un exemple de quelqu'un qui n'est pas confirmé ? Merci! IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

When you are running a campaign, what information do you typically send to participants, and where do you usually send it (e.g., talk page, email, social media, etc)?

FR : (Lorsque vous menez une campagne, quelles informations envoyez-vous généralement aux participants, et où les envoyez-vous habituellement (par exemple, page de discussion, courriel, médias sociaux, etc.)

I usually send an invite containing a link to the event page I have created, it’s either of the three options mentioned. But I usually used the talk page to document the whole event. I think it would also be helpful to utilize the on-wiki communication tools since the campaign is related to the Wiki projects.Kunokuno (talk) 15:18, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: Thank you for letting us know that you use many forms of communication, including talk pages, social media, and email, to invite people to campaign events. We'll keep that in mind when we delve more into communication and promotion tools for registration and beyond. --IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:29, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I utilize social media tools and email. Priority is given to WhatsApp groups of existing Wiki communities where i am certain to find willing participants. Prospects are encouraged to visit the event page for an overview of the campaign and to join the project Events dashboard. For new participants, this is usually a tasking experience.--OtuNwachinemere (talk) 13:31, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

@OtuNwachinemere: Thank you so much for this overview! It is very helpful, and I have added it to our team notes on communication methods/tools used by organizers. Also, we are hoping that the integration between the new registration solution and the Programs & Events Dashboard will reduce some of our workload as an organizer. Thank you again for your helpful feedback! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

• Contact/ Téléphone (WhatsApp de préférence), Profession/secteur d’activité, Lieu de résidence, Avez-vous une notion sur Wikipédia ? Avez-vous un compte Wikipédia ? Avez-vous participé à une de nos événements une fois ?--Adoscam (talk) 09:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Adoscam C'est très utile. Merci pour ce partage ! IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Do you prefer that we build the desktop version first or the mobile version of the registration system first?

FR : (Préférez-vous que nous construisions d'abord la version pour ordinateur ou la version mobile du système d'inscription ?)

Most of the participants, especially if events are conducted in places where there is limited access to devices, use mobile phones. On the first glance of the form, it is doable on a mobile device. But I guess this sort of application would usually have the desktop version before adjusting it to adapt to a mobile version. Any of the two would be helpful. Kunokuno (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: This is helpful feedback; thank you! We haven't made up our minds yet, but we've heard people express that many campaign participants will probably be using mobile devices, so this is something we're certainly thinking about. We'll also be working on the mobile version of the wireframes, which we hope to share soon after our holiday break. Much appreciated! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd certainly love to see a desktop version in the near future, but for now, i think a mobile version will be a good start. Campaigners want to create the impression that its super easy and fast to participate in any event. Also, mobile devices are ubiquitous compared to computers.--OtuNwachinemere (talk) 13:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

@OtuNwachinemere: Thank you for this feedback! You bring up a great point that campaigners want to have an intuitive, easy experience for participants, and that participants may be more likely to want to register on mobile devices. Much appreciated, and it's something we will keep in mind! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

• Nous souhaiterions que vous construisez d’abord la version mobile car l’utilisation des application est plus sur mobile. Plus de la moitié de l’utilisation de l’internet se fait sur téléphone mobile. Ce pendant la version pour ordinateur est à prendre en compte.--Adoscam (talk) 09:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Adoscam Merci pour ce retour ! On apprécie ça. IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:30, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Is there anything else you would like to add?

FR : (Y a-t-il autre chose que vous souhaitez ajouter ?)

Will this tool generate me statistics at the end of the project, or any part of the duration of the project, like a line graph or numerical data? That would be helpful in posting updates or during the submission of reports especially if events are funded by a grant.Kunokuno (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kunokuno: Fantastic question! For the first version we release, the registration tool will be very simple and not have the analytics abilities you described. This is because we want to release something early and collect feedback from volunteers. However, in the long-term, yes, our vision is the same as yours! In other words, we want to give organizers analytical tools so that they can more effectively support participants and report out impact on their campaign events. This would be part of a "tracking tool improvements" project (or series of projects) that we hope to do in the future. These projects would be quite intensive and take a great deal of planning and coordination, so we're not diving into them right away. Luckily, once we build registration, it will be much easier for us to start working on a tracking tool improvements. To get the latest updates on these future projects, we recommend you subscribe to our newsletter. Thank you for your wonderful suggestion and questions! --IFried (WMF) (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)