Grants talk:Project/ISUR/Wikipedia women and ancestral knowledge from the global south in the Colombian context

Latest comment: 5 years ago by AWang (WMF) in topic Round 2 2018 decision

Elgibility comments edit

Hi Mpbonillap and Sahaquiel9102 and thanks for your proposal to engage indigenous communities in Colombia in an effort to better represent knowledge regarding these groups on Wikimedia projects.

I had one concern regarding the eligibility proposal, which must be addressed in order for the proposal to be considered for further review. In order to meet the eligibility criteria, the budget should provide the costs for the items listed (e.g. site rental, refreshments, mobilization of participants, lodging, workshop development materials, communication costs, project coordination), so it is clear how you arrived at your total funding request. If it is not possible to provide an exact amount for a given item, this is fine, estimates of costs are acceptable.

Please provide this information by the December 11th deadline for eligibility decisions. With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 04:05, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Description of the budget edit

Hello , JethroBT Thank you very much for the request. We have just put the budget description in the proposal. We also put it here.

# Name Value Local Value USD
1 Consulting services and project coordination 41’042.000 13.740
2 Materials and inputs for workshops 2’000.000 680
3 "Expenses for the development of workshops
- Travel (tickets, per diem and accommodation) 45’010.000 15.120
4 Administrative and unexpected expenses 13’208.000 4440
Total 101'260.000 33.980

Thanks! M.

Eligibility confirmed, round 2 2018 edit

 
This Project Grants proposal is under review!

We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 2 2018 review. Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during the community comments period, through January 2, 2019.

The Project Grant committee's formal review for round 2 2018 will occur January 3-January 28, 2019. Grantees will be announced March 1, 2018. See the schedule for more details.

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--I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 15:35, 11 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Questions from Superzerocool edit

Hi Mpbonillap and Sahaquiel9102, thanks for your proposal!. I have some questions:

  1. About the goal Constitution and implementation of the orthographic system in nasayuwe., what are the risks involved to accomplish this goal?. It seems very difficult to be accomplished with the resources in the project, and I don't know if there is a government initiative or similar thing about not written languages in Colombia. As I understand, you will create the "written" language of nasayuwe.
  2. Do you identify the stakeholders (or primary contact) from indigenous communities?
  3. How do you will sustain the project in the future or is it one-time project?. In my previous experience (with mapdungún, mapuche language), if you don't have a native community, the new initiatives could fail, because our (Wikimedia) projects depends on the community.
  4. Why exists two agendas?
  5. Budget
    1. About Consulting services and project coordination, please, share us about the role/s to be developed, how many FTEs are you estimating to be used in this project? (FTE: Full Time Employee)
    2. Materials and inputs for workshops, do you have designated material or you need create new one?. In this amount, it is included the designer/printing fees?

Kindly Superzerocool (talk) 15:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I can answer some of the questions. 1) This is related to the Nasa Yuwe Incubator, the project started with a orthographic system that is no more used. It was the orthographic system of the SIL. Now there is an official system developed by the Nasa community itself. The objective is to implemente this one. 2) We have participated in the past years in two gathering with indigenous speakers, so we've an idea of contacts inside the communities and also our partner ISUR is an institution inside an University where they develop projects with indigenous speakers that are students. Mpbonillap can more deeply answer your questions. --Sahaquiel9102 (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply


Hi Superzerocool. I share with you the answers to your questions.

  1. Constitution and implementation of the orthographic system in nasayuwe. As Sahaquiel9102 (talk) states, the objective is to use the official orthographic system that was proposed, evaluated and evaluated by the Nasayuwe indigenous community in Colombia.
  2. Prior to the presentation of this proposal, we had conversations and meetings with representatives and community leaders who are in the Jambaló, Cauca reservation. At the community level, the work has been organized and divided into lines of action and within each area there are leaders and coordinators.

The people with whom we have direct contact are in charge of coordinating the following projects: education, women, their own language, and ancestral knowledge.

  1. Regarding the continuity of the project, our objective is to integrate it into the lines of action and community development through the programs that are already under development. For example, one of the objectives is to articulate the editing and writing of articles for Wikipedia to some of the projects of the education line. Similarly, to the line of women and ancestral knowledge.
  2. In the discussions we have had, we have identified that Wikipedia can be a tool for the technological empowerment of women and that through its use, other skills can be strengthened, which would imply, on the one hand, digital literacy, technological empowerment and digital inclusion.

On the two agendas, one is actually the objectives that we are going to achieve and the other is the activities described in detail that we will carry out to achieve those objectives.

  1. Budget
    1. For consultancy services, there will be a full-time coordinator and a part-time consultant for the total duration of the project.

In addition to this, according to the issues identified with the communities, and for the development and construction of the workshops, consultants will be hired for specific objectives and products that must be delivered.

    1. We will use materials that are already online, such as the manual for new wikipedists. We will also build new material, we will need prints, guides and also stationery in general: paper, markers, cardboards, among others. This amount includes design and printing costs.

I will be aware of your comments and if you have further questions, questions. --Mpbonillap (talk) 15:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Mpbonillap: I suggest including these pieces of information in the grant proposal itself. In reviewing it today, I had many of the same questions: in particular the consultancy line is very opaque -- Wikimedia grant proposals typically explain with quite a bit of depth the employment of folks through grants. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Broad question edit

Thank you for the very interesting proposal. I have a similar questions related to sustainability and engagement as Superzerocool (talk · contribs):

  • How will the participation and use of the content created during this workshop be built into the sustainment of the project? I have seen a number of wikis both within Wikimedia and outside of it that disappear once the paid staff leave a project. Just because a platform exists, doesn't mean that folks will want to sustain it. Have you considered for example developing writing and education curriculum that indigenous groups deploy in education environments? What kinds of community commitment is there to engaging on technology and sustaining it? I think as a grant reviewer its not clear what you plan to do in those areas.
  • It's not entirely clear that you have consulted/reviewed existing efforts in the Wikimedia community to work with marginalized communities. For example, Whose Knowledge has created a number of how to guides and has proposed a protocal for Centering Marginalized Knowledge . How do you plan to engage and share with this existing work? (admittedly it's not very extensive or very visible).

Cheers, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Fixing a ping: @Mpbonillap: Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, its not very clear how you plan to evaluate success: what impact do you expect on the community? What indicators do you plan to use to demonstrate that you have done that? For projects like this evaluation doesn't necessarily need to lean heavily on outputs (like editors engaged or new content), but could, for example, evaluate the community's digital literacy skills (i.e. ability to write in their own language on the internet) or examine other changes in the community (i.e. implementing new programs within the community for teaching language or digital skills). If you succeed at the activities, how will you know? Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Sustainability and commitment of those involved edit

Thank you for the questions Superzerocool (talk · contribs) and Astinson (WMF) (talk) here are some descriptions to clarify the doubts.

Fixing a ping: @Astinson (WMF):

About people's participation and use of content. edit

In previous exercises and meetings (where we have had no paid staff) in Bogotá, we have reviewed articles on the native peoples of Colombia and identified topics of interest on which we have edited and will continue to do so. We have also identified that Wikipedia is a source of information that allows: 1) access to scientific contents and articles; 2) Visibilize knowledge and contents that are still unknown. We have not contemplated the development of curricula, but we have been working on the mapping of opportunities and challenges of specific indigenous communities in relation to the use of digital platforms, pointing out in the case of Wikipedia. This has generated ideas for the next phase: selection of topics according to the communities' own government plans, documentary review, editing and construction of articles, use of articles and Wikipedia in different contexts such as educational and community.

In relation to the commitment of the communities. edit

They want this project to be integrated into processes of cultural and linguistic vindication; access to information; participation in the information society; among others. For the communities we are going to work with, there is a two-faced perception of technology: as a challenge but also as an opportunity to participate in society.

Other efforts, projects and guides edit

In relation to other efforts, I know some guides and particular cases, for example, a project that animated some communities is the "Indigenous Languages and Knowledge on Wikimedia Projects Toolbox". We have also contributed to the translation into Spanish (the second language of the communities we are going to work with) of the guide for initiating projects. The idea is to follow some of the steps we found there, but also through this project, give feedback to the existing proposal, including for example new practices and recommendations.

Evaluating success edit

Within the objectives we raise many figures as numbers of articles and also participants, however, a fundamental aspect is community participation in the process. We will measure this through:

  • Number of participants
  • Plans and guides that emerge through the exercises and workshops and are proposed from the communities.
  • Documentation related to the process and also new contributions to Wikipedia articles.
  • New perspectives and ways of including Wikipedia within own community processes in different areas: education, own language, culture, new information technologies, etc.
  • Strengthening, participation and new perspectives of work for the local Wikimedia community in Colombia.

Thank you! Mpbonillap (talk · contribs)

Aggregated feedback from the committee for ISUR Wikipedia women and ancestral knowledge from the global south in the Colombian context edit

Scoring rubric Score
(A) Impact potential
  • Does it have the potential to increase gender diversity in Wikimedia projects, either in terms of content, contributors, or both?
  • Does it have the potential for online impact?
  • Can it be sustained, scaled, or adapted elsewhere after the grant ends?
6.4
(B) Community engagement
  • Does it have a specific target community and plan to engage it often?
  • Does it have community support?
4.8
(C) Ability to execute
  • Can the scope be accomplished in the proposed timeframe?
  • Is the budget realistic/efficient ?
  • Do the participants have the necessary skills/experience?
5.2
(D) Measures of success
  • Are there both quantitative and qualitative measures of success?
  • Are they realistic?
  • Can they be measured?
5.2
Additional comments from the Committee:
  • Fits with strategic direction of knowledge equity for Indigenous languages (wayuu and nasa). No clear plan for sustainability of work after grant ends - as others have pointed out on the talk page, it’s difficult to maintain engagement when you no longer have funds or dedicated staff so I’m concerned specifically for the Indigenous language incubators
  • The project has a great impact potential but I am not technically a fan of projects without resulting impact on Wikipedia
  • This is an strategic point of interest, improving the presence of languages that are currently in incubator is very meaningful for our global goals.
  • This project would gain more knowledge in a needed area, but the specific details are not complete. I am looking to see how the people will be recruited, trained on Wikipedia, and how this might be sustainable.
  • Risks around sustainability/engagement. I also see a lot of risks related to implementation of the new orthographic system; while I understand it has been developed by the community, it seems like it could be difficult to promote both adoption of the orthographic system and a technological platform at the same time.
  • Measures of success are not very specific as well as how they will sustain this kind of collaborations after the funding ends. The concrete results of this project should be booth agreed directly with the local communities and Wikimedia global communities as well as local ones that are already engaged.
  • This project should not be considered measurable or immeasurable. The potential of the impact of the project is huge. I do hope to see more about how the proposer will observe the environment and engagement with the participants in order to develop the project report.
  • It’d be helpful to have more budget details (e.g. breakdown of hours/pay rates for consulting services and project coordination). I’m glad to see there is involvement and support from Wikimedians of Colombia User Group.
  • Budget is not very efficient related to the quantitative outcome also taking in account that is not very well detailed on how all the money will be spend as there is no planning for the activities themselves.
  • This is a broad project. I am sure with the community and participants, it can be done. I am sure they will find this project has more than they expected and might even consider breaking the examination of the project into parts so not overwhelmed at the end of the project. (Phase 1: examine engaging with the community, Phase 2: examine overall experiences, Phase 3: consider what is needed in the report that hasn't been examined, Phase 4: write best practices for others in the wiki community to apply to other communities).
  • I don't see a big involvement of wikipedians
  • Global and on-line communities seem engaged but it's not detailed the names or how many or how are they going to be engaged all the other local communities.
  • The community engagement aspect of this project is rather interesting and I appreciate it. I like that the proposers are engaging with the communities and coming into the environment as support roles.
  • I believe Wikimedia projects have an important role to play in the sharing and preservation of Indigenous knowledges and languages. We have also seen amazing examples of projects funded through grants that have accomplished a lot (for e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Tamil_Wikimedia-Noolaham_Foundation/Multimedia_Documentation_of_Traditional_Trades_and_Crafts_of_Eastern,_Northern_and_Up-Country_Sri_Lanka/Midpoint). That being said, it’s hard for me to assess this proposal as it is not very detailed. I am happy to see endorsements/participation from Jorge Vargas and the user group though. For this reason, I think it should at least go through to further deliberations. My main suggestion at this time would be to scale back the scope of activity and support on only 1 Indigenous language (specifically wayuu). This will allow more focused attention and support for the target community; I also fear there will be a lot of complexity with supporting nasa given the status of the orthographic system. If the initial project is successful, then we can consider funding an expansion at a later time
  • The presentation of the project is quite weak. A project with 10 workshops producing 3 articles per workshop seems to me quite expensive.It defines to have 30 new users but there is not a clear idea how maintain this community in future and when the projects will exit from incubator. Basically some concerns about the sustainability.
  • I will expect them to turn some the sessions into follow up events that can lead to a couple of edits.
  • Quite a lot of funding is set for planning and detailing all the project itself.
  • I like this project, but feel there needs to be more clarity for those of us outside of the Wikimedia Colombia community. The items might be clear to the applicants, but for others to replicate projects like this in the future, I'd love to see more detail in the proposal.
 

This proposal has been recommended for due diligence review.

The Project Grants Committee has conducted a preliminary assessment of your proposal and recommended it for due diligence review. This means that a majority of the committee reviewers favorably assessed this proposal and have requested further investigation by Wikimedia Foundation staff.


Next steps:

  1. Aggregated committee comments from the committee are posted above. Note that these comments may vary, or even contradict each other, since they reflect the conclusions of multiple individual committee members who independently reviewed this proposal. We recommend that you review all the feedback and post any responses, clarifications or questions on this talk page.
  2. Following due diligence review, a final funding decision will be announced on March 1st, 2019.
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I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 16:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Clarifications and development of the proposal edit

In relation to the comments and questions on the proposal we decided to work on the breakdown of ideas. We have a Spanish version (our first language) of the proposal and also present more information below.

Community engagement plans edit

This project will have potential impact on communities because it will include the perspective of communities that have been marginalized and not included on the Internet. We will work with the women of the communities and we will do exercises in the use of tools and knowledge to participate in Wikipedia. In addition, they will take up the Wikipedia project in their own language, a project that started but does not currently have articles. The project will also be articulated with several lines of the community development plan: education, women, youth and children.

There will be full participation of the community in the construction of the project, its execution and culmination as co-authors, however, the five principles of Wikipedia will be pillars.

The indigenous leaders will be in charge of helping to build the methodologies that will be implemented in the workshops. Likewise, given their community participation, they will be in charge of making the project known through activities and including it in the lines of action and training projects.

As for the specific audience, first of all there are people interested in learning about the peoples that inhabit and the indigenous languages that are spoken in Colombia. Taking advantage of the global celebration on linguistic diversity, together with the leaders we will make a compilation that will be made public on Wikipedia and that will be built from the perspective and ancestral knowledge. The contents will also be for media users of Wikipedia, since the construction of the contents will imply the principles of Wikipedia and in the same way, it will imply research exercises, documentary compilation and academic writing on the part of the participants of the workshops.


Communities edit

Women Wayúu community edit

The Wayúu people are settled in Colombia and Venezuela. In Colombia their language -Wayuunaiki- is spoken by 230.514 people (Ministry of Culture), being considered the native language with more speakers in the country.

The Wayúu people have led different processes and projects, among them is the ethno-education policy which promotes ownership and empowerment so that from the same communities develop educational projects. Currently there are many publications in both Wayúu and Spanish, and there is great interest on the part of a group of people in digitizing and making available to all people the knowledge that is documented in books, which are no longer transmitted and should be known by humanity.

There is a Wikipedia project called Wikipeetia, which is in the covert phase and has 506 articles. However, of the 51 users only 2 are active and men.


Nasayuwe Women's Community edit

The Nasa people settle mainly in the Department of Cauca in Colombia. They currently have their own organizational process in which different lines of action have been articulated, including: their own health, their own economy, politics and their own education. Within the educational program there are different projects, such as the revitalization and use of the mother tongue that starts from the linguistic nests. The aim of this project is to articulate the different activities and lines of action with the aim of making visible through Wikipedia the community interests and objectives in relation to the language of the Nasa people. There is a project called Ets cjuẽs, which currently has no articles and no editors or users.

ONIC edit

The indigenous organization of Colombia, through work with the communications team, has been thinking and evaluating the issue of visibility of content on the country's linguistic and cultural diversity through online platforms. Previous meetings have included evaluations and plans for the implementation of editing workshops on the contents of indigenous peoples settled in Colombia and indigenous languages spoken by the country's native peoples.


Sustainability edit

In relation to the sustainability of the project, we propose the following actions:

  • Given that one of the objectives of Wikimedistas de Colombia is the "promotion and use of Colombian indigenous languages", this project will be continued by the user group as an affiliate of the movement.
  • Establish relations and alliances with other local and international institutions that allow the project to be visible, take it to other instances and disseminate it in different contexts.
  • Include this project within the education plans of the communities.
  • Take the project to other instances and institutions through, for example, social service accreditation programs with indigenous student editors.


Prospective edit

Wikipedia, women and ancestral knowledge from the global south in the Colombian context' is a project that seeks the technological empowerment of indigenous women through the use and editing of Wikipedia. A study will be conducted to understand practices, technologically empower women and encourage their participation in the Internet in the construction and dissemination of information and knowledge relevant to their communities and in their languages.

The final report will present information on the experience with the pilots so that it can be known and replicated by other groups. Although it can be used by anyone, the target population of the report are leaders of the indigenous communities and special attention will be paid to its usefulness to them, recognizing their capacity for management and replication within their communities.

For ISUR the report should serve the different indigenous communities of the country but also for other communities with which they share characteristics of vulnerability such as afrodescendant populations. Nearly 84 native groups or indigenous peoples live in Colombia, of which 78% of the population is in rural areas. This diversity is shared by indigenous groups in different countries of the region. In addition, it is a fact that many indigenous peoples find themselves in vulnerable conditions and for them the experience of developing workshops and making local content visible in their own languages as an exercise in claiming their rights online could be replicable.

The breakdown of activities, budget and other details are specified in the latest version of the proposal. M.

Round 2 2018 decision edit

 

Congratulations! Your proposal has been selected for a Project Grant.

The committee has recommended this proposal and WMF has approved funding for the full amount of your request, 101,260,000.00 COP / 32,774.82 USD

Comments regarding this decision:
The committee is pleased to support this effort from the Wikimedistas de Colombia and ISUR to engage and support indigenous communities in Colombia in representing their knowledge in Wikimedia projects. The committee appreciates the applicants’ efforts to engage these groups and that there is a plan for this engagement to be sustained by Wikimedistas de Colombia beyond the grant period.

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