Grants talk:Project/Fjjulien/Modelling and Populating Performing Arts Data in Wikidata
@Jura1: Thanks for the nudge. We are well aware of the Wikiproject and of the work done by Beat Estermann. Beat_Estermann will actually be part of the core working group (you can now find a list of working group members in the project page). And our activities involve enhancing and translating the WikiProject Performing Arts. Let us know if you are interested in being involved one way or another.-- Fjjulien (talk) 18:35, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- When I first looked at the page again, I wondered how I could have missed that, but yes, actually it was re-written. I will try to provide some feedback later.
- The nice thing about the field is that it probably wont overlap too much with what volunteers are already doing (other than Beat Estermann and users contributing with him). This was a problem with another grant funded project which essential drove away volunteers (maybe detailed statics could counterdict that) and rendered the database less useful for Wikipedias (at least according to me and few others).
- In the work already done, I think Beat Estermann and the people working with him successfully implemented a scheme that didn't exactly do that in the field it was originally implemented and we keep getting advocates lecturing us about it there while struggling with it in practice (or not actually contributing). There is some risk of over-engineering it and generating too many items that are hard to differentiate and lack much practical use.
- In terms of what WMF would fund, maybe it could be moved to the training and documentation part instead of the ontological work or data injection. Ideally (IMHO) that last part would exclusively be funded by institution(s) providing the data. Maybe you can change that by moving it up/down a line.
- I will try to look into the proposal later. Excellent news to see that we move beyond P1362. Jura1 (talk) 18:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Good to see that the vast majority of the funding comes from cofinancing. Nemo 13:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm rather skeptical about the proposed outputs: creating 300 items is not something worth 30 k$ for Wikimedia, even though it might be worth as much for the other funders. If we had to spend 30 k$ for every kind of data structure on Wikidata which is shared by over 300 items, we'd probably be talking about billions of dollars of expenses. If you have to create just 300 items, I would suggest to just proceed to create them without spending too much time on the ontology, and then figure out later if there is a need for a more structured work. You might find along the way that the existing structures work fine, or vice versa that the ontology you had in mind would not scale to thousands of items. Nemo 13:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Eligibility confirmed, Round 1 2020Edit
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The committee is pleased to support full funding for your team to resolve known modeling issues, develop training, and improve Wikidata content in relation to the performing arts. The committee appreciates the level of training and expertise represented with the proposed working group, as well as a commitment to reducing systemic bias through the inclusion of working group members and advisors from underrepresented backgrounds in the performing arts.
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