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History and facts from the masses ?

Do I understand this correctly ? Wikapedia is an Encyclopedia that can be edited by anyone who wants to? What if what i type is incorrect ? Are there editors to check for fact and content ?

Yep. Wikipedia relies on the good will and hard work of our thousands of volunteer editors. Although we always have some visitors who insert faulty information we find that the balance is positive and that more people fix problems than introduce them. For more information about how this crazy thing still works, please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Replies to common objections. Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 18:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


About Donation page


            Moriya (
Translation (by Aphaia)
I would like to make a donation, however descriptions are written in English and I have no idea what is said. I cannot therefore do nothing. If I have webpage(s) in which all transactions are explained in Japanese, I would have made a donation with my credit card happily.
I would like someone in charge to reply though, Mr. Moriya, I would be happy the information below helps you a bit:
ご不自由をおかけしています。PayPal での払い込みに関しては、有志が案内ページを作成しております。ご参考になれば幸いです。日本語での案内ページを用意するご要望を、払い込みを行おうとしたサイト運営者(PayPal なり MoneyBooker なり)に日本語で出していただくのも長期的には有効かと推察します。
今後ともよろしくお願い申し上げます。--Aphaia 04:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Alexa recently changed their links, so the current link (15 most visited) doesn't show the traffic graph. Link should be changed to 23:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That's fixed now. Angela 18:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikitoolbar in browser

Hi there,

It would be great, if we have a tool bar to type the context we want to search (Similar to Google toolbar) in the browser.

This would increase the accessibility of our Wiki :) We want wiki to be more handy and to visit more and more times..

A Wiki buff .. Manivannan Paulraj.

There are tools like that. One is the 1-Click Answers tool. Angela 15:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


For Wikipedia, I have been using Wikipedia approximately a year, and I used to save lots of pages on my HDD or even download them from Internet Cafes and view them offline, the big problem is that after the project of Wikipedia donation started all the pages I save them don'y use to save correctly and then each time I open them they are really annoying(I use to save the pages in MHT by Internet Explorer), and then require to connect to the Internet or even do not use to save ! So I have a small request to use script or something like that to make the donations progress bar not be saved with the web page when saving web pages using IE, I don't think that this is a hard work for all the pros working in Wikipedia.Hope you can fix this.Best wishes for all Wikipedia.

Try saving the printable version of the page instead. That doesn't include the fundraising message. There's a link in the sidebar to "printable version" on every page. Angela 03:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Bold text found that the 3 "public donor lists" at the bottom of the "donations" page are malfunctioning. It seems that the SQL server is having some problems... Davut Ozkan

Gift policies.

Please link Grants Coordinator at -- Jeandré, 2007-02-01t11:55z

Thank you

Just wanted to thank Danny for an excellent article on Wikisource. I've been trying to figure out WS a bit lately, and his article made it a lot clearer what the project's goals and status are. Cheers! -Peteforsyth 03:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

tiny typo

second paragrah, second sentence...

a should be an

Hi, thank you for your notice. Which page you mention? Your pointing of URL will be appreciated. Aphaia 10:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Donation in INR

Hi I was looking to donate, and found that in the dropdown menu, you don't have an INR. I'm an Indian, and without INR in the menu, I don't think I can donate. Please try to include this option also.

Warm Regards, Phani.

Dear Phani,
Thank you for your warm interest. The currency availability is not in our control but on PayPal or Moneybooker's decision. You can however donate either via Bank or with Postal Cheque (i.e. you can buy a postal cheque in USD in your post office with your INR).

Thank you for your attention,

Sincerely yours, --Aphaia 10:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Press room

Just wondering, was there a reason why this edit removed Australian and Swedish press contacts? I don't have an account on that wiki, so I can't ask the user Wiki blue why s/he did it, but it was without edit comments. If there weren't any good reasons, would it be possible for someone to revert it please, as the Australian contacts were decided at a meeting of the relevant parties (as indicated by this edit by Angela). Thanks. enochlau (talk) 10:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

As for Swedish contact, while he seems to be living in Sweden, but is inactive now on Swedish projects. On the discussion of comcom we concluded it wouldn't be good to have him as a press contact for Swedes. Thank you for your understanding. --Aphaia 11:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I've just emailed Sandy (Wiki blue) to ask why she did this. Angela 19:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Any progress? enochlau (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't really understand. She said something about them not going through an approval process, but that doesn't exist and applies equally to everyone on that page, so I've added a disclaimer instead. Angela 12:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
But Delphine's removed that. I suggest instead you try to find out how to get on the OTRS press queue. (Sorry, I don't know how to do that, or even if there is a sensible way to join it). Angela 17:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, that's annoying. I'll look into it. Thanks anyway. enochlau (talk) 11:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sugestion for WikiLyrics

What about create a site for Lyrics like Wikipedia Lyrics or WikiLyrics.

We could find there all bands and singer's lyrics!

u'r sight it great

Hello, I believe there already is a WikiLyrics and hundreds of other sites that contain Lyrics for your favorite songs. Wikimedia will never create a site like this because generally lyric-sites break the law due to their publishing of copyrighted lyrics. So, pretty interesting idea, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. :( Cbrown1023 talk 13:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

While researching the 9-11 attacks I clicked on a link to the section in Wikipedia that dealt with the Taliban and this is what came up after clicking on the link.

Taliban From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

fuck that article and join the taliban today and you'll recieve a 1 dollar bill. young recruits are always welcome to fucking screw george bush up the ass.

I doubt that you want this link to represent Wikipedia so I am sending this to you so you can fix it.

Richard Richmond

Hello, Wikipedia is a wiki, meaning that anyone can edit it. A vandal came along and replaced the page Taliban with those upsetting words. However, because Wikipedia is a wiki, you can help us by reverting the damage that the vandals have done. Thank you for bringing this to our attention and it has been fixed. :) Cbrown1023 talk 13:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

My theory

I have some ideas on dimensional theory that can give poeple a start on how to build machines for travel that make sense. What they amount to is the idea that every point in space has a magnetic signature that is made from the spectral properties of atoms and the conflicts between these createsa spectral like meaning, and my theory is that you can run these things through an electromagnet and propell yourself toward them.

I haven't had the ability to many experiments but I can go deeper and what I don't want is to type all this up if i wont get reconition and there would be no interest.

Hello, though this sounds very interesting, unfortunately Wikipedia won't be able to accept anything like that. They have a strict policy against original research. Cbrown1023 talk 13:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

UninvitedCompany 11:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. --Aphaia 11:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

"Imagine a world..." on front page

This used to say "Imagine a world in which every single person is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing." but was changed to say "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment." [1]. This is rather stilted wording; it loses the literary ring that the previous quote had: "All knowledge" needs an adjective, and the most appropriate one is "human knowledge", which is a common phrasing with which people have strongly good associations ("all knowledge" is not even theoretically possible). It should be changed to: "Imagine a world in which every single person can freely share in the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment." —Centrxtalk • 18:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You may wish to try asking Erik about that; I'm hesitant to change the front page phrase that a Board member last edited, and in any case, it would be a courtesy to him to ask him first. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 14:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Relevant discussions may be found at Talk:Mission/Unstable, for your information. I am hesitant to change the statement edited by a Board member based on the community consensus built through a discussion in months. --Aphaia 14:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


i wish to register my name to be possible edit some opinion or some articles. please answer me how to do it, thanks very much, luis elbaum e, mail 05:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This page is concerned with the website, the official website of Wikimedia Foundation, Inc, while it is running over 400 websites. Comments and feedbacks to those websites are preferable to go to them directly.
I have no idea which wiki you are talking about, but it is sure you are in a wrong place. None of our website including is dedicated to host opinions of individuals. Thank you for your understanding. --Aphaia 07:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Resolution:Licensing policy

I read wikimedia:Resolution:Licensing policy

I think that board members don't understand fair use meaning, fundamental idea. Meet some lawyers, and ask this. "All countries allow fair use?" Probably, answer is yes.

All countries allow fair use, not only US. How can I know? This is "principle".

Copyright is "principle". Fair use is "principle", also.

All countries' subtle code is diffenrent. but principle is same.

You know that all countries' copyright code is same? Not same. But principle, fundametal legal idea is same.

You know that all countries' fair use code is same? Not same. But principle, fundametal legal idea is same.

Wikimedia Foundation must make "fiar use policy for worldwide wiki project". It is mistake!

You know any country's copyright law that "If a scholar use some image for wrting thesis, he must get image's license"?

Every country allow fair use. but it's not exactly same.

Every country don't allow US's fair use. But, every country allow their own fair use.

I advise...Commons allow "worldwide fair use images". It is mistake. so crucial mestake. -- WonYong (Talk / Contrib) 14:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Principle? If it is true, all countries may have some world standard law, convention, treaty, etc...

Find fair use code in some woridwide copyright treaties. It must be somewhere. -- WonYong (Talk / Contrib) 15:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Each project can decide for themselves if they want fair use content. It hasn't been prohibited. I think that is fine. — Omegatron 16:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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Set up Foundation CommonsTicker?

Hello, perhaps the Foundation website should set up a CommonsTicker? This is a page maintained by a bot that tells you which images from Commons, that your project uses, have been replaced/nominated for deletion/deleted. You can see an example at ja:Wikipedia:CommonsTicker.

Since Foundation is a closed wiki, either the bot account could be given there, or else the Ticker page could be hosted on meta. What do you think? --pfctdayelise 05:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention, it might be considered (personally I love your proposal, but it's not my personal possesion anyway). In a current moment, I have some questions
  • You implies it isn't necessary to set a bot there but generate a list somewhere else?
  • Who will care the bot account, specially if it runs on that? (Just for your information Dusentrieb has no account there).
Personally I'll be more than happy to see images automatically replaced/added information, but not hesitant to let relevant logs accumlated there. Some object even its editors use their talk pages and that is partly why its admin board is placed on meta, not there. So a theoretial question; is it possible to have a bot running there but have logs not there but somewhere else? --Aphaia 08:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it might be possible to just generate the list on Meta, so you wouldn't need to set up any new Foundation accounts or anything. I asked Duesentrieb; we will see what he says.
CommonsTicker only reports information about activity on Commons (on a CommonsTicker log page, and optionally also on Talk pages of relevant pages where an image is used). It never removes or changes images in pages.
There is a bot run by User:Orgullomoore, called CommonsDelinker, which can remove deleted images. For it to work, it would need an account on the Foundation wiki.
But I personally recommend that a CommonsTicker and someone paying attention to it would be enough - I don't think the Foundation wiki uses a lot of images anyway, and I imagine they are all "good" ones anyway.
Does this answer your questions? (I guess you are the main person who "maintains" the Foundation wiki?) --pfctdayelise 13:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your close information, and also for your interaction with Duesentrieb. Your recommendation to have a page on meta and later someone takes care of the website manually sounds nice. I hope your supposition is not far from truth;-) (Perhaps so, or one of those people, while I'll be more than happy to see others involved). --Aphaia 15:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Some quick answers:

  • I generally don't have an account on each wiki where CommonsTicker is active (there is an account for the "bot" of course). Instead, on each wiki the ticker is active, there's one admin volunteering to have an eye on the page and act as my contact to the community there (also important language-wise).
  • CommonsTicker per default posts to one page only, so it's not a "bot" in the common sense (as mentioned, it can also drop warning on talk pages). Also, since it's used for notification, it should not have a bot flag (which is mainly used to ignore bot edits).
  • CommonsTicker can currently not inspect one wiki and post the results to another. This is no fundamental problem, just a lot of nitty gritty stuff to change. No idea when it will happen - maybe next week, maybe next year...
  • The current version of CommonsTicker has an "auto cleanup" mode, where old issues drop off the page. That mode is however heavy on the database and deprecated for the next version (dubbed CommonsTicker NG and being currently tested on dewp). I suppose a different approch to automatic cleanup could be implemented. But it's more work than i currently really have time for, other issues are more important (like getting CommonsTicker to cooperate with Orgullo's CommonsDelinker, for projects that have both).

I hope that clears the picture a bit. -- Duesentrieb 22:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid we were too optimistic. We saw the image used there deleted w/o any advanced notice. I suppose We need to set a solution or just upload all images locally. --Aphaia 11:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Monthly Paypal Subscriptions

Howdy and thanx for a great service! About the Fundraising page; If you add the below code, you will get a Monthly PayPal Subscription form (Fully functional). Normally you will get an increase on about 100-300 % just by adding such a donation alternative, compared to ordinary one-time-donations.

Give a nice comment on my talk page, if you'd liked it!

/Roberth Edberg

<table style="float:left; width:15em; height:36em; margin:1px; padding:0.5em; border:1px solid #CCC; -moz-border-radius:10px; background:#F9F9E3;">
<tr valign="top">
<td><img src="" alt="Wikimedia Foundation logo" /></td>
<td style="height:30px; font-family:Helvetica;"><big><b>PayPal / Credit Card</b></big></td>
<td colspan="2" valign="top"><b>Donate securely online with PayPal. You do not need an account to donate with a credit card.</b>
<p>You can send donations in any of the currencies below without having to pay a currency conversion fee.</p>

<form action="" method="post" onsubmit="if(document.getElementById('don-amount-pp').value.indexOf('.') >= 0 && document.getElementById('don-amount-pp').value.indexOf('.00') < 0) {alert('Sorry, but we can only accept donations in whole amounts.'); return false;}">
<!-- hidden data -->
<input type="hidden" name="business" value="" />

   <input type="hidden" name="item_name" value="Monthly donation" />
   <input type="hidden" name="item_number" value="DONATE-2" />
   <input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_xclick-subscriptions" />
   <input type="hidden" name="t3" value="M" />
   <input type="hidden" name="src" value="1" />
   <input type="hidden" name="sra" value="1" />
   <input type="hidden" name="p3" value="1" />
 <input type="hidden" name="on1" value="Comment" />
 <input type="hidden" name="lc" value="en" />

 <input type="hidden" name="on0" value="Anonymity" />
<input type="hidden" name="notify_url" value="" />
   <input type="hidden" name="no_shipping" value="1">
   <input type="hidden" name="no_note" value="0" />
   <input type="hidden" name="tax" value="0">
<label for="don-amount"><b>A monthly gift of...</b></label>
<input type="text" name="a3" id="don-amount-pp" maxlength="30" size="5" />
        <select name="currency_code">
<option value="USD">USD – $</option>

<option value="GBP">GBP – £</option>
<option value="EUR">EUR – €</option>
<option value="USD">-------</option>
<option value="AUD">AUD – $ </option>
<option value="CAD">CAD – $</option>

<option value="CHF">CHF – </option>
<option value="CZK">CZK – K?</option>
<option value="DKK">DKK – kr</option>
<option value="EUR">EUR – €</option>
<option value="HKD">HKD – HK$</option>

<option value="HUF">HUF – Ft</option>
<option value="GBP">GBP – £</option>
<option value="JPY">JPY – ¥</option>
<option value="NZD">NZD – NZ$</option>
<option value="NOK">NOK – kr</option>

<option value="PLN">PLN – z?</option>
<option value="SGD">SGD – S$</option>
<option value="SEK">SEK – kr</option>
<option value="USD">USD – $</option>
        </select> /month

<!-- public comment -->
 <label for="os1">Public comment <small>(up to 200 characters)</small></label><br />
<input type="text" size="25" name="os1" id="os1" maxlength="200" /><br />
<br />
<!-- public donor list -->
 <a href="" class="external text" title="" rel="nofollow">Public list of donors</a><br />
<input type="radio" name="os0" id="name-yes-pp" value="Mention my name" /><label for="name-yes-pp">List my name</label><br />
<input type="radio" name="os0" id="name-no-pp" checked="checked" value="Don't mention my name" /><label for="name-no-pp">List anonymously</label><br />

<input class="centered" type="submit" value="Donate!" />

COuld clear links to your merchandise pages be set up?

I am guessing that the merchandise would bring in some funds fr you. I know a lot of people who would buy various wiki gear if they knew it was available.

Maybe under the Donation link you could have a "WikiShop" logo.


That's a very good idea! You could possibly bring this up on our Foundation-l mailing list. It will probably get much positive feedback and might become a reality. Cbrown1023 talk 13:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

wikinews logo on projects on logo.

It uses the incorrect logo. should be image:Wikinews-logo.png. Bawolff 23:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Which page do you mean? That is the logo used on Wikimedia:Our projects and Wikimedia:Template:OurProjects. Angela 00:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia, the internet

It seems to me that the most urgently required contributions you need are pictures of your subjects to illustrate many of your listings. I can see no reason why any of the listees would object; your position in search engine results would seem that you have established yourself as the premier instant catch all research tool, and in the case of many artistes, entertainers, celebrities et al, surely the more approved information that exists on them, the better. The internet is surely a research tool, primarily, and a buying medium, second. However, the amount of detailed information I find I am able to access seems limited. Perhaps I'm not going about it in the right way. Surely this medium should be nerd heaven; if I want to know who ran the 400 metres for West Germany on the 1984 Olympic Games, there should be a site which will tell me quickly; if I wish to view the cover of any given magazine, then I should be able to find it, and if necessary, dowload it as a jpeg. It's not like I'm going to make money by peddling it to anyone else, and the more people see it, the higher the given publication's profile, surely. Magazines represent an interesting issue (ouch): the can only be a finite number of back issues if any publication, so for those readers of say, GQ, who wish to peruse out of print issues, perhaps each publisher could create a site with all the published articles available as text, illustrated by jpegs of the visual content. If they wanted, I suppose it could be subscription only.

Resolution:Licensing policy links to en:Wikipedia:Fair use as an example, but this has been moved to en:Wikipedia:Non-free content. — Omegatron 16:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your notice, since it is a copy of Board resolution at that time, I hesitate to "fix it". Someone in the higher position may take care of changing. --Aphaia 09:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

BAd spanish translation


As a spanish speaker i wanted to let you know that i noticed in your home page you have the spanish heading as "Español La enciclopedia libre" which i am guessing you tried to say FREE Enclyclopedia!! however thats not the correct translation. Free as it has no cost in spanish is GRATIS. I would appreciate if you could fix it.

Thank you for your comment, but "free Encyclopedia" is free as speech, not free as beer. Gratis is therefore a wrong translation, although you can access Wikipedia without charge. Cheers, --Aphaia 09:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
See w:Gratis versus Libre. Libre is right word in this context. Angela 15:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Catalan translation of Licensing policy

Translation requests/Licensing policy/ca is ready to be published. Can anyone do that? Thanks!--Iradigalesc 21:53, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. Sorry for late reaction and thank you very much! --Aphaia 01:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


How is it that that in E=mc2, units for energy, mass and the speed of light assigned by man happen to be mathematically correct to a physical law?

See the Wikipedia Science Reference desk for this question. Cbrown1023 talk 00:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

1.) Suggest adding ability to donate via 2.) The fundraising page has broken images. 3.) This page (and the entry form page at also has broken images, and I suspect the problem may be more widespread in the and sites. Example, see page bottom, image to display SRC is does not appear to exist, or at least, is not loading on the page for me.

I do not see any broken image at the moment. Would you please check if your browser blocks images that come from a different site (, as in this case)? Thank you, M/ 22:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Addition to Prom

"The Unwanted Stress" Not a lot of people talk about how much stress prom can put on teens or their parents. There is so many things to be done and to schedule. The expences are quite extreme too. The stress of getting everything done sometimes might take away from the fun it's suppossed to be. When needed dress/tux, shoes, jewelry, flowers, tickets, limo, restuarant, and many other here and there things. This amounts to lots of stess for teens to find the right stuff and at a godd price. It causes stress on parents to buy it and take their teens out to get things. As you can see there is a lot of stress around prom.

Hi, thanks for suggesting that addition! But, Wikipedia is a wiki which means that everyone can edit it. You can add this information yourself to the English Wikipedia's Prom entry by following this link provided you have sources to back it up. You could also suggest these changes on the article's talk page. Thanks! Cbrown1023 talk 19:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

North Bay Ontario artical

You have missed some information in the artical about North Bay Ontario under "Prominant People" NHL players, as well as brothers, Kevin and Derian Hatcher lived in North Bay. I was in Derian's English class at Chippewa Secondary School in 1990-1991. I could send you his photo from the schools year book if need be.

Thank you for your time. Russ Dale

Hello Mr. Dale, and thank you for your suggestion! But, Wikipedia is a w:wiki, anyone can edit it! As long as you have a source to back up your claim, it will be much appreciated. You can add the information at this link.
About the yearbook image you have, unfortunately most of the images found in yearbooks are copyrighted and cannot be used on Wikipedia. In addition, because those images are from when they were children, their use may be a violation of the subjects' privacy.
However, I encourage you to contribute whatever you can to Wikipedia and I hope to see you there! Cbrown1023 talk 23:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Wiki codes for the Donations page

Any chance I can get a copy of the wiki codes for your Donation page < >? I am new to Mediawiki and am needing a similar page (with paypal and moneybookers entries) for my own wiki site.

This is my email showing in a png file:

Thanks : )

Hi, thank you for your interest on our website. However we will never reply inquiries on this page by email. You can get the source via special:export. Thanks. --Aphaia 08:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

A new idea

I belive it would an interesting idea to create a website using your "wiki" technology and the idea that most people feel that they are important. A website that would be a wiki autobiography for those who wish to tell their story without the nuiscance (excuse my spelling if incorrect) of talking to others. i.e. "myspace"

Nice idea! However, it is very unlikely that it will get taken up by the Wikimedia Foundation as a new project. Perhaps submit your idea to Wikia? Cbrown1023 talk 21:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Good job

This site is great. It seems to have everything. On top of that, everything is clear, concise, explained with great detail, and understandable. The set up is wonderful too. I just want to say THANK YOU!!!!

Thanks, we appreciate your nice words and feedback. But we'd be nowhere without our readers! Cbrown1023 talk 13:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

PDA Format

I use a pda to access the internet. This box I am usig is only 3 character s wide and is typical of the site display on a mobile device. Other sites detect a pd and the frames disolay much better

That is a very a interesting point. Please consider submitting a bug request for our developers so they can rectify this problem. Cbrown1023 talk 13:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

it is hard for me to read your web page, I need HELP!!

Dear Sir,

When I use your wikimedia dictionary, definition page your web display letters are in double stroke. This makes it hard to read. Please use single stroke letters. This will make the reading much easier.



  • e-mail removed*
Hello if you are talking about Wiktionary, our free dictionary, please address your comments to their Village pump. Cbrown1023 talk 13:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Or alternatively info-en [at] wikimedia [dot] org. —Sean Whitton / 11:09, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


I really liked seeing the bar that said how much money was there, just so we could get an idea of how much money was being donated. I would really like to see that back. I understand if there are reasons as to why not, but I thank you for listening.

Hello, the bar that you are talking about is shown during our fundraising drives. You can expect the bar to return for our next drive. I like that bar too! :) Cbrown1023 talk 22:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You used the term croat in reference to croatian people that is considered a racist term to croatian people the article was the one about the ustaske

Hello, I am very sorry to hear about this. Howerver, our sites are wikis, meaning anyway can edit them. I hope this has already been reverted, but would you mind telling the article and site in which this occurred? We operate over 700 different sites in over 300 different languages and have millons of articles. Next time you see a problem like this, you can help us by reverting it yourself! :) Cbrown1023 talk 22:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia name in other languages

Since Wikimedia is the official name of the foundation, I think it's not correct to translate or transliterate it into other languages (namely those using non-Latin alphabet, eg Russian). So, on the Meta-wiki page in Russian all the occurences of Викимедиа should be replaced with Wikimedia. 14:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC) (Al Silonov)

Good idea! Perhaps you could bring this up on our Foundation-l mailing list with links to specific examples? Cbrown1023 talk 01:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Error in text regarding Fragile X syndrome

Error in text regarding Fragile X syndrome, under the heading "Symptoms".

"Most females experience symptoms to a lesser degree because of their Y-chromosone, however they can develop just as severe symptoms"

Correction should read: "Most females experience symptoms to a lesser degree because of their other normal X-chromosome, however they can develop just as severe symptoms"

Thank you, Matthew Kovie D.O.

Hello, Matthew! Thank you for your correction. However, Wikipedia is a wiki, meaning that anyone can edit it. You can fix this (and any other mistakes you might find) yourself by clicking the edit button at the top of the page. I am sorry, but I could not find the problem in question at w:en:Fragile X syndrome. Cbrown1023 talk 00:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


What are the pages on this site and Are they all just help pages, info pages, and business records of the Foundation, or are there other things. Also, if one creates an account on either site, what is that user's prupose? (ie: on Wikipedia, the purpose is to edit and improve articles) I am currently a user on Wikipedia, known as Ninety Cheers!!! 21:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Where you are now is Meta-Wiki. Meta-Wiki exists for collaboration, organization, and management amongst the Wikimedia Foundation's many projects. On this wiki, there are pages that are of use to many different wikis as opposed to only a few or one. It is also were stewards operate from. is, as its name suggests, the Wikimedia Foundation's website. The Wikimedia Foundation is the organization that owns and operates the sites like Wikipedia. If you create an account here, you become a user like on Wikipedia and you edit the miscellany that exists here. (See Special:Allpages to get an idea.) You cannot create an account directly on the Wikimedia Foundation site. The allocation of accounts there is tightly managed by the people at Request for an account on the Foundation wiki, and most users don't get them. However, there is no real need to edit that wiki locally anyway. Thank you for you interest and I hope to see you around Wikipedia (or possibly even here at Meta!), Cbrown1023 talk 00:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback!! I'm the person who asked that first question, and just yesterday created an account here. Now that I have an account, what all could I be doing instead of just sitting around doing nothing? Also as a somewhat unrelated question, is the source code used here the same as that on Wikipedia? Thank you for your time!! Cheers!!! Ninetywazup? 14:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean by source code? If you mean the software, then yes, we use the same software as on Wikipedia (MediaWiki). You could do numerous things, this is like going to Wikipedia and saying "what can I do?" :) There are many, many thing that you can do.
  • If you are good at translating or speak many languages, visit the Translations committee at T
  • If you want to discuss itesm, visit Metapub, Meta:Babel, or Meta:Babylon
  • You could also patrol the site for vandalism at Special:Recentchanges
  • Just read some of the information that's on this site, there's literally tons of it!
There are many things you can still do that I haven't mentioned, those are just some things to get you started. Cbrown1023 talk 15:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!!! Cheers!!! Ninetywazup? 17:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Another new idea

Ive seen that there are many descriptions on songs about their origin or meanings, it would be practical to incorporate the lyrics to the songs as well.The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 15:23, 9 July 2007.

Hello, unfortunately the lyrics of songs are copyrighted and it would be illegal for us to include them in our articles. :( Thank you for your suggestion, though. Cbrown1023 talk 21:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


In the last sentence of wikimedia:Advisory Board#Ward Cunningham, please change "Pattern Languages of Programs conferences which continue to be held all over the word" to "Pattern Languages of Programs conferences that continue to be held all over the world," though I admit that I considered that the typo may be a tongue in cheek joke that is beyond me. Thanks, BanyanTree 12:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your notification, we have fixed the page. :) Cbrown1023 talk 14:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Specifically, I added a comma before which. Which (with a comma) is the correct word to use, since it introduces a non-restrictive subordinate clause. For more information on which versus that, see World Wide Words. —{admin} Pathoschild 14:23:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh dear, I should check my meta watchlist more often. The main point of the above post was to note that the last word in the sentence is "word", when it should be "world". Things seem to have gotten confused with the grammar change that (which?) I threw in for kicks. - BanyanTree 08:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I have fixed this typo and another instance of "word" instead of "world". Cbrown1023 talk 20:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Staff pictures

No photo of Wikiblue, Tim Starling or any other staff on the photos page - only Bastique, Sgardner, Brion Vibber and RobH's photos are on there. -- 17:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I would also like to see photos of these users. However, it is also a bit of choice. Not all of their photos need to be up there. However, I will send your comment along and see if we can get photos of them. Cbrown1023 talk 15:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I do believe a photo of Tim exists on Commons or enwiki somewhere. Don't know about Wikiblue. Majorly (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I have found a few picures of Tim Starling. On Commons: Tim and Angela working on their laptops, Group shot of Tim, Jimbo Wales, and Domas Mituzas with Tim on the left, blurry shot of Tim, though to use it, we must have permission the permission of Dungodung and Tim, and Tim and Cimon Avaro arm wrestling; from Google Images: probably the best picture of Tim, copyright unknown, and I think that the website is primarily German, though I'm not sure.
On Commons there was just one picture of Sandra Ordonez that I could find which was a picture of her from Wikimania 2007. For Mark Bergsma, I found an image from Wikimania 2006.
That's all I could find, if it is of any use. Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 19:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Some of them, including Sandy don't want more visibility. They could add their own pic or ask, if they would like. Sandy removed her pic which someone had added. Please leave it and let them decide to include their pic to the page. --Aphaia 06:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that too. :) I would love to see all of these people, but wouldn't add them without their agreement. Cbrown1023 talk 16:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I didn't think about that - if I were them, I wouldn't want my picture there without my permission. Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 01:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Major Music Publishers Addition

Can you please let me know how we can add our publisher name to the major Music Publisher list. thank you!The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 20:58, 18 July 2007.

Hello, this page is for feedback related to the Wikimedia Foundation's official site <>. If you are talking about a specific article, please post your comments on the talk page. This page is found by clicking on the "discussion" or "talk" link at the very top of the page. Thanks, Cbrown1023 talk 22:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Blue Highlights

I have just entered your site for the first time, looking up 'Bastille Day'. Although I enjoyed the explanation, I found that the blue highlighted random words annoyed the heck out of me. I didn't care for the visual distraction that these blue words presented. I felt as though I was in some 7th grade history class being taught the key words for the test!! That is B.S.! I prefer to garner such information for myself. So...I looked for some icon or line with which I could remove the offending colored words but I could not find anything to alter the text printing. Is there such a icon or line?? If not, would you guys install one? I just don't want to enter your site if not. Thanks DH.

If you are referring to our links such as this (which follow the same format as most sites on the enitre web), then unfortunately there is nothing we can do to stop them. You may always view the articles as the "printable version" by clicking on the "printable version" link at the bottom of the left-hand sidebar. Otherwise, I am sorry to say, there is nothing we can do for you. Cbrown1023 talk 04:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
If you create an account and login and then put "User:Your_user_name/monobook.css" into the search box and hit go, you will be taken to a page where you can cutomise the appearance of the site. Hit edit to edit your page and put this code to neutralise the blue links:
a { color: #000; }
a:visited { color: #000; }
a.stub { color: #000; }
#bodyContent a.external { color: #000; }
Hope that helps. —Sean Whitton / 11:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

the origin of tagalog word/term and other tagalog means of reading the numbers!

good day sir/madam/moderators: i am not a linguist but a native tagalog speaker here in the philippines.i just want to add some informationabout the origin of tagalog term which is now widely use as a mean to describe a language and group of brown people (kayumanggi) in the philippines. i believe tagalog term was not literally came from taga-ilog or people living beside ornear the river.although it is true tagalog people built their houses near the river,the word is not exactly from taga-ilog or from the river.the ancient tagalog word for river is pasig not present,pasig is just a name of river along the metropolis of metro manila but one word existing in tagalog denotes that the sand along the seashore came from river (because of the floods) this word is dalampasigan meaning brought by river and in present tagalog dala ng ilog(pasig)!i knew two places in the philippines where the river is called pasig-in metro manila and in daet camarines norte.the word tagalog i believecame from the word irog meaning my only one/the one i love etc.the ancient tagalogs were poetic in nature and express their feelings in poems and the people here called them makata(poetic) during early 1960,s backward.brown or kayumangging malaysians use to live with kayumangging tagalog several hundred years ago and they use to communicate effectively even they have differences in language.the malaysians letter r always became the letter l in tagalog language.i am not sure if irog in ancient malays is also irog in tagalog but it seems irog became ilog in tagalog word.thus,irog during early times is not literally a river of water but a river of hope from the one you love.a source of inspiration because of the continiuos flow of good relationship and harmony between the two lovers.and what can i say tagalog term came from taga-irog or the one who courts!one sayings in tagalog which may be forgotten by present filipinos due to continiuos downgrade of morality is this- o kay hirap mamangka sa dalawang ilog(irog)! sorry i cant translate the same in good english but it sounds like this (it is so difficult to paddle or use boat between two rivers! the tagalog for 10 is sampu(sampulu) 20(dalawampu)30 (tatlumpu) 40 (apatnapu) 50(limampu)60(animnapu) 70 (pitompu) 80 (walongpu) 90(siyamnapu) 100 (isang daan-the old term is isang gatos!) 1,000 (isang libo but the old term is isang yuta) 1,000,000(isang milyon-but the old term is isang angaw!) the filipinos living in the southern tagalog provinces uses terms which are not common in the metropolis manila.and these tagalog words are called pure tagalog or dalisay na tagalog which are not commonly use cause the people of the modern age hate to hear these words which sounds like too strict or too old for this modern world.

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Hello there:

Hello there,

My name is Brett Bellomo, I would like to call to your attention the idea of your paradigm and what it means to your readers as well as basic hobbyidsts.How are you at doing basic observation through internet "shelled" resps. Can you? Can you give me basic academic credit if.

1.Basic observation of wk. opinion on Afr culture 2.idea (with permission) of tribal culture) 3.Idea of int'l websites with permission 4.idea of nationalism 5.idea of pol. opinion 6.finances (currency) (notes) ( carefully argued resources) 7.1.e. lby dinar ngr (notes bonds) argued well Mzbq rubies sdn factory manfctrng sth afrca ,red vg juices 8.ghn minrlgy 9.cmr cng. spc trb mdcnal

nationalism, ideas OAU structure, homeland (abt 110 divisions) prvncl div new Tripltn Cyr e and w Lby old (map prcption Sml= Somaliland (slang European) not corct term in all ways currency special cntrs=morr. sdi uae alg, tun, djbt, thanks my i.d. 7,22,75 bday ldrs for study Mr Mandela Mr Qhadaffi Mr. Knakrum Mr. Amin. Mr. Aidid please upgrade your site! maybe you will win something

Hello, what are you talking about? I do not understand you. This page is for comments about the Wikimedia Foundation's official site. Cbrown1023 talk 20:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Capitalization request

regarding this request on the english wikipedia admin noticeboard, I am not sure I agree that capitalizing Internet is a good idea. I see Cbrown1023, in apparent response, actually lowercased it in one place, which is a change I think is good. (tnis is mostly for the record :) ) Lar 11:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. "The Internet" is a proper noun and thus should be capitalised at all times. Not so to do is generally considered an example of poor grammar - for our corporate site we really should be aware of such issues and act as most organisations would. I'll fix this in a day or so (assuming I don't forget ;-)) unless someone can give some good reasons...
James F. (talk) 11:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't say "The Internet" anywhere on the page, and I don't believe it is a proper noun. If it is, what is it naming? The internet is just a thing. Majorly (talk) 13:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I, of course, agree with you James, that we should show good grammar on our corporate site whenever possible! But the question is "Is the internet in "Jimmy is an internet entrepreneur" supposed to capitalsed?" I would say no, personally, but does anyone feel differently? Cbrown1023 talk 13:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
See w:Talk:Internet ... this apparently is a question of some considerable controversy and has been for some time. The current usage in that particular article is to have it capitalised, with the argument advanced on talk being that it refers to "the Internet" (singular, and thus a proper noun). I'm not sure that argument applies when we talk about "internet enterpreneur"... do we say "Finance enterpreneur"? There is, after all, only one global financial market, if one uses the same argument used to assert that there is only one global internet.
Not to put too fine a point on it though, since we could spend months arguing about this matter if we wanted to. I think the argument for capitalisation is wrong but would just want us to be consistent rather than spend a great deal of intellectual capital (heh) on whether to use capital letters or not. So... would be happy to go along with whichever, now that I now that it's controversial. What does the rest of the site do? ++Lar: t/c 15:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


The statement you made in respect of Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo is not true , it was on record that his government, when it comes to the issue of judicial pronouncement, was selective. The government chooses to obey those judgements that suits it. Please make your indipendent investigation and amend the page accordingly to avoid misinformation as your site is reputed to offer qualitative and reliable information.

Hello, what exactly are you talking about? This page is for comments about the Wikimedia Foundation's official site ( If you have a comment about a specific article, please bring it up on the article's talk page. Cbrown1023 talk 19:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia

I think Wikipedia is the greatest thing I've ever encountered on the Internet. I am constantly impressed at the quality of the writing on the entries, and though I know there may be issues sometimes, I love it. It is something I really enjoy supporting. The other that is somehow in the same category for me is the Central Park Conservancy here in NYC. Both have alot in common - the result of their work is incontrovertibly high value, accessible, and supported by volunteers.

Please contribute to the Wiki Foundation ! I used to be a net-Luddite, but Wikipedia has changed that.

That's great to hear! Have you considered donating? Majorly (talk) 00:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
....or becoming an editor? Cbrown1023 talk 13:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: The Independent

Lovely article in The Independent about Wiki-Censoring (though I am not surprised,having experienced it first hand):

Hello, this is for feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's official website, Your comment might be better posted on the English Wikipedia's press coverage page or Signpost tip-line. Cbrown1023 talk 04:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Typo at Template:News-en/2007-06

wikimedia:Template:News-en/2007-06 says "Board meeting of June 1th to 3rd" - should say "1st", not "1th" :) RockMFR 04:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!   Done :-) Cbrown1023 talk 04:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

At How you can help, there is a red link leading to Donation through bequest/will. Could this be removed? Thanks! Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 01:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip,   Done Cbrown1023 talk 01:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 Thanks! Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

A few typos, etc.

Hi! Out of boredom, lately I've been looking at the old resolutions (they really give an insight to the history of the Foundation!). I found a few typos though.

Also, some resolutions start with "Resolution " in the title and some start with "Resolution:". At Resolution:Communications committee/Members "Resolution " was changed to "Resolution:".

Not sure what to do about this, I would see no problem with this being moved (maybe even with a script), but I'd rather here other people with accounts' opinions. Cbrown1023 talk 22:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

And I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I tried searching for "Wikipedia" and "Wikinews" and nothing came up. Should the specific project names redirect to their respective section at Our projects (ie. Wikipedia would redirect to Our projects#Wikipedia, etc.) perhaps? Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 22:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, you must have hit "go" instead of "search", but I see no problem with this being created. Cbrown1023 talk 22:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I just hit "enter" and the first screen of search results was press releases/press statements. Greeves (talk contribs Wikipedia) 22:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Italian subjects

Your information on stories of Italian subjects are often bigoted and to me prejudiced. William Paca is one of two italian American signers of the Declaration ofIndependance, so get over it. We Italian Americans have seen history rewritten by bigots our whole lives. It is a shame that in this day and age some people are still so shallow and unfair. Do some research before you write information that people will believe is totally true. Even your history of Italy is revolting and insultive to me. However I am sure this will never be printed. Italy is a great nation with a very long history. 21:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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About "Contact us" page

I wish these words about the chapters, independent associations with no legal control of or responsibility for the websites of the Wikimedia Foundation, were bold. I would also make clear who I am supposed to contact in case of legal complaints. St.Petersburg? Your legal representant, which is not linked in that page? An OTRS queue? --Elitre 13:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Legal problems can be sent to info-en [at], where they will be answered by volunteers. Cbrown1023 talk 20:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so I was right, there is precious information missing on that page. --Elitre 00:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
The page states that you should e-mail OTRS, i.e. info [at] When your post arrives, if it is in English, it gets moved to info-en automatically. So what information is missing? Cbrown1023 talk 00:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
The page states In this section we will provide you with contact information for specific individuals or functions. I see a designated agent for copyright issues but not a legal representant, and no clear indication that the info queue must be used for legal issues. You may find I'm underlining stupid things, but I often deal with "stupid" people on OTRS. --Elitre 13:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Most users are not instructed to contact our legal representative directly. The legal OTRS queue is used internally (content is moved there from other queues) where it is answered by legal interns/volunteers, then if it needs the eyes of our legal representative, we forward it to him directly. Mike is very busy and we try not to involve him with problems that can be done much easier by interns. However, his contat information is easily found if one just does a search for him on the Foundation, Meta, or English Wikipedia wikis. The only reason that the designated copyright agent is on there, is because that seems to be a requirement for the U.S. Copyright office. Cbrown1023 talk 23:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Not Impressed

To Whom It May Concern

I have little or no interest in donating money to an organization that hijacks my browser making it impossible to use the search.

i have always enjoyed using wikipedia until tonight..every time I submitt a query my browser is hijacked to your donation page..I'm not impressed..I now have no intention of donating at all now.— The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

Sorry for your trouble, but it is not a hijack. Rather whenever our server may have been in trouble, then you are led to the notice page which inform you our situation. Since requests for Wikipedia is steadily increasing, our capacity is sometimes not enough reply every query. It can be improved only changing our technical settings so that we need to buy more servers and continue to hire technicians. The message you may have gotten told you just the above, I expect. Thank you for your understanding. --Aphaia 06:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was noticed recently "pop-up" complaints and wonder if it was what you experienced too. Before that, I thought you misunderstood our error message. But if you got, "donate us" type pop-up windows or whatever, it didn't come from the Foundation.
Please be aware that the Wikimedia Foundation does not require anyone to donate in order to use Wikipedia or any of the Wikimedia projects.
If you are receiving a message requiring you to donate before continuing to use Wikipedia, it is possible that your browser has been hijacked by some kinf of malicious program known as "Adware" or "Spyware". Please do not follow any link that appears in a popup window requiring you to donate.
We are currently investigating the problem and hope to have a solution as soon as possible. You may be able to help.
If you are able, please provide us with a screenshot of the pop-up Window, as well as the Browser name (Internet Explorer, Firefox), and the URL to which you are being directed.
We appreciate your help.
Cheers, --Aphaia 15:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


Would it be possible to create an interactive, all-encompassing timeline of the history of the universe? It would have to be filtered of course, giving you the option to choose individuals, events, conflicts, scientific descoveries, and the list goes on... I've never heard of doing this, but I don't know why it wouldn't work.

This is for feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's official site. <> If you would like to request an article on Wikipedia, please post that request on Wikipedia. Cbrown1023 talk 01:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Your site George Curzon, 1st Marquess curzon of Kedleston

Sir Please look in your site "GEORGE CURZON,1ST MARQUESS CURZON OF KEDLESTON". Picture of Lord Curzon with hunted tigers in company of Maharaja of Baroda has been shown. The description is not correct. The other person is not Maharaja of Baroda but he is Late Maharaja Madhav Rao Scindhia of Gwalior who ruled Gwalior State during the period when Curzon was Viceroy of India. Correction may please be made Navin C. Mathur Allahabad, India

Hello there, did you know that anyone can edit Wikipedia? This means that any errors can be fixed just by clicking edit at the top of the page. By the way, the best place to report errors is the talk page of the article, not here - this page is for the Wikimedia Foundation site. Regards, Majorly (talk) 14:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

check your logo is bean used by

Hi, I don't know if that is our logo - there are no letters or symbols on it, and I don't think the puzzlesphere is owned by us. But I'm not too sure. Majorly (talk) 12:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Defaced Articles Permeate Wikipedia!

On an average of 4 out of 6 wikipedia articles, readers encounter large notes indicating: "Article MAY contain original work" "Cites and footnotes needed" "Article needs polishing to "meet wikipedia standards”" etc. The notes are defacement, often arbitrary, and unsubstantiated, while remaining unresolved for months and years.

I once wrote an article which was immediately defaced so. The note was erroneous and posted by a wikiwriter who personally disagreed with the articles’ widely substantiated facts (as shown by established cites). Further, the articles' quality was more polished, detailed, and informed than his on the same subject. He had also become territorial on the subject for having been the first and only poster until I came along. He immediately used the note feature to deface and repress the article. Too many wikipedia articles are likewise noted under such dubiousness.

Wikipedia needs higher standards, and checks and balances, against article defacing through arbitrary notes. In most cases it's tantamount to defamation without substantiation by propagandists, personal opinion, or writers’ envy. The profuse number of pages containing such and the ease by which wikipedia allows arbitrary noting, serves propagandists well.

Due to the preceding, I do not write at wikipedia and rarely visit now. When I do visit, it is for quick reference lightly taken or to see if a .jpg is available on the subject, while on my way to established works. I avoid citing or referring wikipedia at all costs since it is widely understood to be a tool of propagandists.

Raise the standard.

Sorry but this is for feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's official website <>. If you would like to change the way Wikipedia works, please propose it on the Villge pump of the English Wikipedia where it will be deliberated on by the community. Cbrown1023 talk 20:22, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Donation pop-ups

the donation sites that pop up upon refresh are making it impossible to continue searching. I hate this, can you try some other methods?


an original wiki lover

Thank you for providing us with this inquiry.
Please be aware that the Wikimedia Foundation does not require anyone to donate in order to use Wikipedia or any of the Wikimedia projects.
If you are receiving a message requiring you to donate before continuing to use Wikipedia, it is possible that your browser has been hijacked by some kinf of malicious program known as "Adware" or "Spyware". Please do not follow any link that appears in a popup window requiring you to donate.
We are currently investigating the problem and hope to have a solution as soon as possible. You may be able to help.
If you are able, please provide us with a screenshot of the pop-up Window, as well as the Browser name (Internet Explorer, Firefox), and the URL to which you are being directed and send it in an e-mail to info-en [at] wikimedia [dot] org.
We appreciate your help. Cbrown1023 talk 13:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

third paragraph of "pacific ring or fire"

I like your work but someone must have had a bad day when they wrote this line from a different subject.The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 20:58, 4 October 2007.

Hello, unfotunately this is for feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's official site <>. If you are referring to a problem on an article, please bring this up on the article's talk page (accessible by clicking "talk" at the top of the page). If this is just vandalism on the article, please remove it or revert it. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Donations via Wikipedia DVD Sales?

I would like to be able to use Wikipedia offline. Can Wikipedia DVD's be purchased as a way of making a donation?The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 21:12, 4 October 2007.

DVDs can be purchased by following the information at However, this does not constitute a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation, to make a donation, please visit Thank you for your interest in Wikimedia and its projects. Cbrown1023 talk 21:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Quote site turned into Myspace phishing page

Is displaying as a myspace login page. Someone really should fix this. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 15:28, 19 Oct 2007 (UTC)

Amusing I suppose but not remotely true --Herby talk thyme 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Quote site turned into Myspace phishing page

Is displaying as a myspace login page. Someone really should fix this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 15:28, 19 Oct 2007 (UTC)

   Amusing I suppose but not remotely true --Herby talk thyme 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 

Are you saying that it is not displaying as a myspace login page? Because this is what I see when I click on the above link:

Not for me & I am an admin there too. Equally nothing in the page history that suggests that --Herby talk thyme 15:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not seeing it either; I even looked for "MySpace" with the browser's Find feature, and got nothing. Perhaps a browser restart is in order (or a wipedown of your computer; might be a virus)? EVula // talk // 16:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am sorry but this is not the correct place to post that. This page is for feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's official site, Please report technical bugs to Bugzilla. Cbrown1023 talk 01:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Please provide a transcript of "Jimmy's video"

I noticed the video link at which has streams in Theora, H.264, and MPEG-1, but it's missing the most important type of stream: TEXT!

Please post a text transcript of what he's saying so that those of us who can't hear it can at least read about it! I think just posting a link to "read the text of this speech" on that same page wouldn't be too much to ask for deaf users.

Thank you very much for your feedback. Since you posted this message, we have added subtitles to the video in many languages (including English). You can view the English-subtitled version at Thanks again! :-) Cbrown1023 talk 20:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


This...This is what the world wide web was made to do.

--Austin Jacobson

Thank you for your very kind comment! Have you considered becoming a contributor? Cbrown1023 talk 00:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


I wanted to know has your company considered the possibility of having advertisements on your website. This may eliminate the idea of donations and may surpass the amount of money needed to keep this site up and running.

Thank you for your comment. Yes, we have considered that possibility and it is still the topic of heated debates. More information, discussions, and proposals can be found at: Fundraising ideas#Ads on Wikimedia sites, Advertising on Wikipedia, Opt-in Google-ads, and en:Wikipedia:Advertisements (very good page). (Those are just some that I found on a quick search, I am sure you can find many more.) Please do not hesitate to bring up this discussion again, if you would like, on our Foundation-l mailing list <>. Thank you for your efforts to make Wikimedia better. Cbrown1023 talk 03:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Verify your source

Dear Sir:

May I bring to your attention your definition or descriptions of the BBFI(Baptist Bible Fellowship International). You mentioned that the BBFI is classified as a Protestant group. Please do some verification of this information because truly BBFI is never a protestant. If you want authentic information please view the BBFI Home website to clear this matter or communicate to the Leaders of this fellowship. Hoping for your kind attention. Thank you.

Very truly yours,

Dr Floro Calub, Jr. Missionary in Cambodia

Thank you for your comment, however this page is for questions and concerns relating to the Wikimedia Foundation's official website, If you have a comment about a specific article, please post it on the article's talk page (accessible by clicking the "talk" link at the top of the page) so that its editors can see it. Thank you for using Wikipedia. Cbrown1023 talk 20:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


I would love to be a volunteer but all the positions I saw where based in the USA and I am in the UK.This site has been really helpful to me at work and at home.I would love to make a email ad is or 09:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your offer. All Volunteering Opportunities will be posted at: <>, however you can also contact User:Cary Bass, our Volunteer Coordinator. There are also, tons of things for you to do on the individual projects, like being an editor, administrator, or just commenting on discussions. Cbrown1023 talk 20:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Not giving this year

Dear Wikimedia,

I donated $25 dollars to Wikimedia last year for your efforts in maintaining the wonderful service that is Wikipedia. I have decided not to give this year and voice this protest against deletionists. I encourage the Wikimedia foundation and the scores of dedicated wikipedians that work so hard on Wikipedia to reevaluate the current deletion policies, specifically those related to notability.

I look forward to donating in future years. I hope by then, the deletion policies will be revised to widen the scope of acceptable articles.

Regards, Jon

not paypal

You offer money to a priest, and he sends you to the leather-suited loan shark across town.

I would donate immediately with a direct credit card transaction.

Wikimedia's reliance on PayPal for credit card transactions forces credit card donators to interact directly with PayPal.

When I donate, I want to relate to Wikimedia, not a web services retailer.

The issue of whether or not a PayPal "account" is needed is irrelevant. PayPal is a non-neutral, information aggregating, float consuming, fee charging, delaying third-party.

medical knowledge

Does Wiki have enough influence to persuade the worlds major medical journals and text books to provide free up to date literature on say a wikihealth or wikimedicine site which would be especially helpful for the developing world?

No money from me, either

I'm with John. Wikipedia is being killed by arrogant admins who want to shape the site to their vision by any means, and who would rather delete an article than try to fix it. I have just watched my most recent pet page be deleted due to that horrid "notability policy". Lots of people debated the deletion, lots of people gave evidence why it should not be deleted, but in the end the work of many people was erased.

Maybe next year I'll donate. This year I'm too disgusted by the power-mad admins who erased my words because they could.

Special pages

Special pages for all users

From Special pages (uselang:en).--Marine-Blue [ talk contribs ] 05:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't get the same error, can you perhaps submit a bug report to Bugzilla ( and include your browser information so that we can get this fixed? Thanks for your note! Cbrown1023 talk 14:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Aphaia told me that corrected this error.--Marine-Blue [ talk contribs ] 05:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Coats of arms of U.S. Infantry Regiments

Notice you don't list the 172d Infantry Brigade unit patche. This was a unit in Alaska, which also had the 171st and 173d units at various times. Please add to your list. Thanks. Otherwise a nice site and very informative. 19:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)M. Dolsen

Hello this is for comments about the Foundation's official website, If you have a comment about a specific article you can post it on the article's talk page. If you would just like to add some information to an article, you can edit it yourself by clicking the "edit" button at the top of the page. Cbrown1023 talk 20:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my error.

Hi, Ah, just corrected a previous item. I am sorry. Great site.Thanks. M.Dolsen

Donation webpage didn't work well

I tried to donate to the webpage using a credit card. The site kept kicking me over to Paypal. Eventually I gave up. I am not sure whether I managed to make the donation or not.

I believe that you donate using a credit card via paypal, in this set-up. You should not need a Paypal account to donate there with a credit card. Thank you for trying donate and I apologize for any problems you have run into. Cbrown1023 talk 05:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)





I'm sorry but I believe you are in the wrong place. This page is for comments and questions regarding the Wikimedia Foundation's official website: You may be looking for another website. Cbrown1023 talk 05:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

defaced articles on wikipedia

I have been reading many reports of wrong information on wikipedia articles,
caused by people who update the articles with wrong information or by articles being defaced.
I would like to suggest that an email could be automatically sent to the registered authors of changed articles,
so that they could check if the modification is consistent and it is still a good article.
With this measure we could make all registered authors the keepers of information.
If anyone modify the article, they receive an email asking them to take a look in the modification.
Maybe it could help to decrease the number of wrong articles and the time its remain wrong.

Thanks a lot

marcelo bezerra tavares

Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, this is for comments and questions regarding the Wikimedia Foundation's official website, You should bring up this discussion on the public English Wikipedia mailing list: Thanks, Cbrown1023 talk 22:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


Wikimedia should start a branch for statistics. Just like they have a dictionary, encyclopedi, they should also make a site for statistics on many subjects. People would be able to edit stats. This would create a database of statistics ranging from sports to demographics to health studies. Please consider this idea.

New Wikimedia projects are only launched after extensive discussion by the community and the Board. If you would like this project to be part of Wikimedia, please see the information on project creation at <> where you will find instructions on how to propose a new project. Thank you for your suggestion. Cbrown1023 talk 22:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

HTML coding issue regarding the appearance of main portal


There is no background color defined for, which makes it look terrible for anyone whose browser settings default to a non-white page color. (not to mention it always looks a little amateurish when a website neglects these cases - don't worry, you're by far not the only one...)

Could someone change the HTML of that page to explicitly declare its background color please? 10:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your report, can you please report this bug to Bugzilla or e-mail it to brion[at]wikimedia[.]org? Cbrown1023 talk 14:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I've mailed to brion.

The Wikimedia portal can be edited here on Meta, so I've added the background color per your suggestion.[2] Thank you! Korg 00:41, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Looking good now. Especially the Wiktionary image was a little hard to discern when it's all black-on-black :) 12:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiLanguage possibilities?

I noticed that there are seperate sections in the wikibooks site for languages. I was wondering, as an extension of WikiDictionary and WikiBooks, could there be a wiki translation site? I don't mean as in Babelfish, but a literal dictionary with a standardized index of words. If so, would it be possible to have a seperate wikiLanguage site, dedicated to the instruction and comprehension of human language?--Ignatiusantioch 04:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

New Wikimedia projects are only launched after extensive discussion by the community and the Board. If you would like this project to be part of Wikimedia, please see the information on project creation at Proposals for new projects where you will find instructions on how to propose a new project. However, please make sure your proposal is not too similar to existing projects such as the Wikipedia sister site Wiktionary and one of its competitors, OmegaWiki. Thank you for your suggestion. Cbrown1023 talk 23:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No section edits on this page

(puttingsplitting this into a new section. Why can I post a new section here, but I can't edit an old one to add a reply?) 15:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

You should be able to edit the old one by using the "edit" link next to the section header. Cbrown1023 talk 15:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
That much I knew, but there are no edit links!
Ah, I see, the "Submit a new comment" link takes you to a sub-page (Wikimedia site feedback/main) which is still editable, so creating a new section works. But when I come back to Wikimedia site feedback I'm left without section edit buttons, because that page is locked. Only when I reload the Wikimedia site feedback/main link indirectly I can edit. It isn't really supposed to work like this, is it? 16:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps the database was locked for routine maintenance (it happens on occasion, and usually lasts about three to four minutes). You should see "[ edit ]" to the right of the headings (such as the one for this section) that allows you to edit just that section. EVula // talk // // 21:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
EVula, test it while logged out. He doesn't see the section edit links because that page is fully-protected so that people do not add questions/comments to that page. They're supposed to add them to the subpages. Cbrown1023 talk 21:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Exactly, none of the headings at Wikimedia site feedback have edit links. I doubt it's a temporary problem. I still have to go to my browser history and load the Wikimedia site feedback/main page to get the section buttons (from there all works dandy as you can see)
There's just the "View source" button at the top of the parent page telling that "This page has been locked to prevent editing." - Guess that having one locked main page and one editable sub-page doesn't mix well when it comes to editing sections.
I didn't even know there's a sub-page until I started rooting around for the reason why creating a section did work but editing a section did not. Safe to assume the average visitor just gives up. Besides, why should visitors not be able to edit a page called "feedback" in the first place? 22:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

As for the section edits, I see two options: (clearly #1 makes the most sense)

1) Unlock the parent page, so that the edit buttons carry over from the sub-page again and are not suppressed by the page lock. (I know these kind of sub-paged sections work fine elsewhere on Wikipedia.) or

2) Reduce the parent page to a mere pointer to the actual forum page on which users are supposed to edit. It makes no sense to have the feedback page display its sub-page but give no reasonable means to reach these sections for editing. (A simple notice saying "don't come here, this page's locked, go to another page" would also do, but that's kinda defeats the purpose of leading visitors to the first page.) 12:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments should be directly left in the main page (Wikimedia site feedback). The instructions in Wikimedia site feedback could be moved to a subpage (e.g. Wikimedia site feedback/header), but the main page should remain accessible to the visitors. Korg 15:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all for your help in improving the system, I have implemented the changes. (I ended up going with Korg's suggestion which was based upon's.) Cbrown1023 talk 03:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Don't you mind if I merge the history of Wikimedia site feedback/main into this page? Korg 01:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't see a problem with it. Go right ahead. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so   done. :-) Finally, I chose to merge the previous history related to the header into the page Wikimedia site feedback/header you created, so it's not mixed up with the main page. Korg 02:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Polish Wikipedia foundation?

Is it OK, that during the wkimedia funadtion donation actions, on Polish page [3] there is request to donate Polish Wikipedia funadtion? I do not know anything about this funadation activities and how money are spend, it looks like they collects money using wikipedia popularity. Have you got any money from them? 11:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is okay that there is a note about donations towards Wikimedia Polska on the Fundraising page. They are a local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation and you are free to donate to them. I am not sure where exactly the money you donate to them goes, however I am sure you can find more information on their site. You are still free to donate directly to the Wikimedia Foundation if you prefer. Cbrown1023 talk 21:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
You can find here info about money collected by Stowarzyszenie Wikimedia Polska. It is not Polish Wikipedia Foundation - Foundation is one - the Wikimedia Foundation :) WMPL collaborate with the Wikimedia Foundntion. Look also at this page Przykuta 22:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thx 13:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


I am not sure if this is the right venue for this suggestion, but I think that a valuable resource that the Wikimedia Foundation should consider exploring is a medical reference tool. This could include comprehensive pages on pharmacology, diseases, syndromes, etc., all phrased and formated in language intended for physicians and other health professionals. Though a site like this would obviously not be intended as a replacement for medical textbooks, but if accuracy is maintained by administrators, "Wikimedicine" could prove to be a valuable reference tool. Just throwing the idea out there. 03:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

New Wikimedia projects are only launched after extensive discussion by the community and the Board. If you would like this project to be part of Wikimedia, please see the information on project creation at Proposals for new projects where you will find instructions on how to propose a new project. Thank you for your suggestion. Cbrown1023 talk 04:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes,despite your claim for excellence,I find many articles to breif and many links simply no existant.If you wait everything to be ference by some higher authoryity website,your going to find much of your pages blank or full not much imformation.Some of your contributors write article so breif,that there not much to read on many of them.The links to nothing at all are a waste and I can go many other websites to the same material or better. You don't this sorry.I'm teling the truth.You a few choice article are good and plenty not so good.It would better to either write something your self or hello,least something by someone to add to later on.Believe or not,not everything can varified by some web site.Much is not on the web and much of sorry is somebodies opinion.

I believe you are in the wrong place, this is for comments related to the Wikimedia Foundation's official website: If you have comments about a specific article you can post them at the article's talk page, accessed by clicking on the "talk" or "discussion" tab at the top of the article. If you feel like an article is too short, you are more than welcome to expand it. :-)

Administrator issues (Countless admins abuse their privileges)

Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, this is the page for feedback on Wikimedia's official website, You might want to direct your comments elsewhere. Thanks, Cbrown1023 talk 01:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Wikinews URL is linked to

I found a wrong link at Japanese Our_projects page.

The link to Japanese wikinews page is directed to Please correct the link (second with

Thank you.

日本語のプロジェクト紹介ページで、日本語版Wikinewsへのリンクがポーランド語版になっています。 から への変更をよろしくお願いします。

Yasuhiro ABE

  Done Thanks for the note! :-) Cbrown1023 talk 15:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I was going to donate but I clicked "credit card" and kept getting paypal

Forget it. For now.

I've donated in the past. I love everything Wiki. What the hell is this?

Great Help


I was looking for information on the baseball player named Eddie Waitkus. Thanks to you I found a site called "The Life & Times of Eddie Waitkus" that provided me with the information that I was looking for.

You guys are really GREAT !

Many thanks,

L.E. Holman Denver, Co.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, please allow me to extend a sincere thank you for taking time out of your day to write us. We appreciate your kind words and are thrilled that you enjoy Wikipedia. We hope to continue to live up to your expectations and that you continue to find the site a useful resource.
If you are interested in becoming involved in the site yourself, please see our tutorial at <> which contains all the help you need to get started. Cbrown1023 talk 03:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool Site

Hello, where did you all come from? LOL

  NICE That all this information is out their,

Keep up the Good Work & Thank You / Always

Lonny Johnson

There should be a wikipedia tool bar, i'd pay for that.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, please allow me to extend a sincere thank you for taking time out of your day to write us. We appreciate your kind words and are thrilled that you enjoy Wikipedia. We hope to continue to live up to your expectations and that you continue to find the site a useful resource.
If you are interested in becoming involved in the site yourself, please see our tutorial at <> which contains all the help you need to get started. Cbrown1023 talk 16:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Three Further Projects Wikimedia may like to look into

Hi, I propose three further projects that Wikimedia Foundation may like to look into and develop.

One is Wikiware, maybe a connection between all software writers who are interested in making software for free under the GNU license. I understand that there are sites doing it but a Wiki might make this much more productive. Or perhaps a collaboration with one of these sites which are making non-commmercialized, free softwares.

The other two are projects involving sound and video files. One would be Wikiaudiobooks, which make audiobooks of Wikibooks and Wikipedia (perhaps 1.0 ?). The beneficiary of this is the blind, the eye-impaired (like older people who can't access the web) etc.

The second is WikiASL and WikiBSL, Wikibooks or Wikipedia in the American sign language or British sign language. It may be said that since the hearing or speech impaired can read, this project is unnecessary, but it may be more profitable for them to watch a video and pick it up rather than otherwise. Or maybe a software can be produced which can produced a graphics of sign language?

All the best to freely given knowledge. 08:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion.
New Wikimedia projects are only launched after extensive discussion by the community and the Board. If you would like this project to be part of Wikimedia, please see the information on project creation at Proposals for new projects where you will find instructions on how to propose a new project.
Projects in new languages are launched after a request at Requests for new languages. Regarding an American Sign Language Wikipedia, please see the first closed proposal at Requests for new languages/Wikipedia American Sign Language and the current one (still in discussion) at Requests for new languages/Wikipedia American Sign Language 2.
I hope this helps. Cbrown1023 talk 21:01, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Donation gift certificate

Hey, the donation gift certificate idea rocks, but needs a grammar fix: has made must be changed to accommodate a plural giver (like "my wife and I").

the 2 second fix: change has to just, or change the merge sentence to read something like "This is to certify that _____________ made a contribution ... in your honor ...."

My mother's going to think that even my English lit degree was a waste of her money!

Keep up the good.

Phil Snead, charleston, sc