Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Wikidata/Scientific papers: Sort authors by their own rank

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Scientific papers: Sort authors by their own rank

Problem: Sometimes the article is created with only authors with the property P2093 (only text without link), then some of them (all at the end...) are transfered to the property P50 (link to the good author page) but the authors are showned in the order of their addition to the page not to their own rank (P1545). It will be better, especially when there is a lot of authors, to have a sorting by this property. See for example this page with 14 authors currently showned as 2; 7; 1; 3; 5; 6; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14 - and the last ones on the right order because I added by. [Sorry for my poor english!]
Proposed solution: Add a sorting on the P1545 property for the field P50 and an another one for the field P2093.
Who would benefit:
More comments:
Phabricator tickets: T173432
Proposer: Givet (talk) 10:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

@Givet: You forgot to link "this page" !! —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:07, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheDJ: Thank you so much! Sorry for that. I just corrected. Givet (talk) 15:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This proposal seems to be too much focused on a single problem. While the problem exists, the solution should be more broadly applicable to user cases of sorting statements as well. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 15:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChristianKl Yeah, this seems like a bot request (albeit very good) rather than a feature request.--Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 17:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree — I'd support a wish for a more general statement sort functionality (e.g. chronologically-sorted values like software releases, educated at, residence, etc.) Waldyrious (talk) 20:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please link the Properties in the proposal too. Egon Willighagen (talk) 06:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In general I think that would be quite a useful functionality, but I think that this is a really specific niche problem that would not justify such changes in the general UI. However I can imagine this being an feature in the RearrangeValues Gadget. Once you activate the gadget on a property, it will also look for common qualifiers for the statements of that property and offer an option to sort the statements accordingly. That would than also work for other qualifiers, such as start time or end time. @Tohaomg:, do you have any thought on that idea? --DFichtmueller (talk) 12:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

Support Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 22:16, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support LD (talk) 03:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tgr (talk) 04:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sorting by 'series ordinal' sounds useful to me, not just for authors, actually. Egon Willighagen (talk) 06:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Transient-understanding (talk) 07:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bluerasberry (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support I feel the same, I work with authors and it annoys me when I leave an item in a "messy" order. It's just a visual thing, I know I don't have to delete and add on purpose but it looks "shabby".--Alexmar983 (talk) 01:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lt2818 (talk) 04:19, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fvtvr3r (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Czupirek (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 13:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zblace (talk) 07:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support This feature should be added. Thingofme (talk) 16:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 18:51, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support This would be very usefull. Some of the users say Wikidata is just the database, so sorting doesn't matter. But I disagree with that. Wikidata is a database and also a resource of information. E.g. when you edit the article on another project, you may want to generate citations from Wikidata. Or when you are doing outreach trying to negotiate data from another database it would be helpful to show the name list in the order of their position on the paper. Juandev (talk) 11:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]