New users should see the deletion log when visiting a deleted page on English Wikipedia
Problem: On English Wikipedia, where we use ArticleCreationWorkflow, new users looking for a topic that has been deleted are not alerted to that fact. The issue is that the extension relocates the user to the new article landing page, so MediaWiki does not show the deletion log as usual because the user is actually viewing a different page.
Proposed solution: Change ArticleCreationWorkflow to show the deletion log.
Who would benefit: Users would know that a page had previously existed and why it was deleted. This could also save the need for admin cleanup after duplicates are created.
(moved from "More comments"): They could already trace an XfD discussion if they clicked on the red link and then on "What links here", but they are unlikely to know this method. (As an additional potential source of confusion, they may get the en:Wikipedia:New user landing page which currently shows at the bottom "This page was last edited on 6 May 2021", and may think that date refers to the topic they were looking for – but that page has no bearing on whether the page they were looking for previously existed.) Fayenatic london(talk)11:23, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that info. I expect you are correct, but I don't know. Assuming you are right, then presumably it is that workflow extension which would need to be amended? IMHO it would be desirable to display the deletion log entry, if any, for the page that the editor was trying to visit. – FayenaticLondon22:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep! I think that's all there is to it, and hopefully an easy-ish fix. The deletion log wasn't even removed, rather ArticleCreationWorkflow is honoring the community request to redirect to en:Wikipedia:New user landing page, so the default MediaWiki behaviour is bypassed because you're not actually viewing the page that was previously deleted.
Okay done, with some slight copy editing that I hope is okay. If it looks good to you, Fayenatic london, I will approve this proposal and mark it for translation. Note also I moved some of the text from the proposal to the discussion section, since it describes detail that I don't think is important to voters. This is merely to save translator's time. Let me know if that is a problem or if the proposal looks good to go. Thanks! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done! I also moved it to the "New contributors" category since that's actually the only users effected. (Auto-)confirmed users can create articles directly in the mainspace, and hence are shown the deletion log as usual. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion log should be shown for pages that have been deleted (may be in the top of the page) as another iteration of the workflow, as the log is shown on top of the landing page and shown on the wiki. Another way is to tranclude the page into the empty article. Thingofme (talk) 15:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As the vote is invalid, I have moved this to the Discussion section instead. We only count support votes anyway, I'm just being nitpicky :) Hope that's alright. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
Support NMaia (talk) 23:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)