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Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Multimedia and Commons/IAuploader for images

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  • Problem: flickr is imposing size limitations for photos. we are heavily dependant on flickr2commons and upload wizard flickr uploader
  • Who would benefit: commons quality images, creative commons culture
  • More comments: help Magnus, you are our only hope.
  • Phabricator tickets:

DiscussionEdit

@Slowking4: Can you please elaborate what's requested? c:Commons:Upload_tools#Uploading_from_Flickr and c:Commons:Flickr_batch_uploading and c:Commons:Upload_Wizard/Flickr already exist. Why is it a "problem" that "we are heavily dependent on Flickr2Commons and UploadWizard Flickr uploader"? --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

@Slowking4: I'm confused by your mention of archive.org. Did you mean flickr.com? I'm assuming you're requesting a tool that lets you search flickr for images that have compatible licenses and then import them into Commons. Is that correct? Would use of this tool be restricted to license-reviewers, admins, and extended-uploaders (similar to UploadWizard's Flickr uploader)? Kaldari (talk) 23:36, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
no, we have a flickr tool. given the downsizing of flickr, we will need a tool that does the same thing for internet archive. we could use OAuth for access to tool. Slowking4 (talk) 03:24, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Note: "Flickr promises it won’t delete Creative Commons photos when it limits free storage" -- excerpt: "In a blog post today, Flickr has clarified that those freely licensed photos will be safe, even under the new limits. Accounts with more than 1,000 photos or videos that are licensed with Creative Commons won’t have that content deleted. That said, Flickr will be blocking future uploads to those accounts on January 8th" -- so this isn't as dire as we all previously thought when they first announced the changes. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
@Slowking4: Hi, does the above info resolve the issue? (I.e. If I understand correctly, you (like the rest of us) were worried after the first announcement that came out, that we'd lose access to all the currently CC-licensed images there. Hence you were proposing that we should get prepared to have to scrape those flickr images out of IA's backups of them. However now that Flickr has promised to keep those CC images available for the forseeable future, this is no longer a major concern. If that is accurate, then (in order to reduce the 230+ wishes that we all hope all editors will read through!) I propose archiving this particular wish.) Thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
no, i was worried about the over-reliance on flickr. if we had tools for upload from IA, a better partner, we would be less reliant on flickr. we should get prepared to decrease barriers to working with preferred partners, with a history of archive stability. a lack of crisis is not a "do not fix" Slowking4 (talk) 21:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Where will all those users go? Can WMF issue some press releases? Can we provide a "Copy-my-Flicker-account-and-relicense-the-non-free-licensed-images" wizard? This could be an application for the #Uploaded files visible in the gallery proposal. HLHJ (talk) 05:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

I support the creation of this IA2Commons tool. I am a Flickr user, all my Flickr images are Creative Commons (over 10,000) but I don't want to pay for the hosting service. I put effort in taking good pictures, and I release them under Creative Commons, and now am I going to have to pay? No, thanks. I think I am moving to Internet Archive, using it like my "new Flickr". So, this tool to move content from IA to Commons will help me a lot. Emijrp (talk) 08:42, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

I hope many will, but it sounds slightly unlikely. On the other hand, we'll have a lot of pre-purge stuff migrated there, so some kind of bot is likely to be helpful. Cf. commons:Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Flickr_paid_plans_and_deletions for context. Nemo 22:32, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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