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Office action request for block on English Wikipedia
@WMFOffice: I got blocked for a nonsense reason on English Wikipedia and then my talk page access got revoked with no explanation and I can't use the Unblock Ticket Request System because it's allegedly getting spammed with requests, so please use an office action to unblock me. B4531826 (talk) 05:27, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- ？？？？？？？？LMAO! Office action could not be used in such a way, and office action is used for lock,ban etc...@B4531826 wanna get yourself banned? Lemonaka (talk) 11:33, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Lemonaka: Why can't an office action be used that way? B4531826 (talk) 16:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please read Office actions Lemonaka (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- The correct venue to appeal is UTRS. GZWDer (talk) 20:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:
Not done, nonsense request: as stated above, the Unblock Ticket Request System can't be used. B4531826 (talk) 21:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- You may also e-mail the blocking admin, in this case Special:EmailUser/Yamla.--GZWDer (talk) 21:27, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yamla created a hoax to block me (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1130764256 for proof), so I don't think emailing him will do anything. B4531826 (talk) 22:27, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- You may also e-mail the blocking admin, in this case Special:EmailUser/Yamla.--GZWDer (talk) 21:27, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:
- The correct venue to appeal is UTRS. GZWDer (talk) 20:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please read Office actions Lemonaka (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Lemonaka: Why can't an office action be used that way? B4531826 (talk) 16:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
This is not a general complaints forum, its purpose is well-described. This forum cannot resolve block issues at other wikis, that is solely within the control of that self-governing wiki. Please use their described unblock, complaints and issue resolution processes.
- This section was archived on a request by: Action for addressing action have been provided — billinghurst sDrewth 00:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Where to edit and publish the fundraising campaign message
Hello. Where is it possible to update the fundraising campaign message? The current one in Slovenian Wikipedia is quite badly written and outdated.[1] I have improved it here but it does not seem to be quite the same message. Should I request that on Phabricator? --TadejM my talk 21:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @TadejM these are updated on-wiki on that project; looks like mostly by Tomasz Gorski on the fundraising team. Try his email. @HNordeen (WMF): may also have information on this. — xaosflux Talk 12:06, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @TadejM! Thank you for your concern and offering to help improve the message. You're correct @Xaosflux, Tomasz is able to help coordinate corrections. Please email him at tgorski@wikimedia.org - HNordeen (WMF) (talk) 17:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: — xaosflux Talk 17:26, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
The Unblock Ticket Request System is broken
The Unblock Ticket Request System claims that it's being spammed with requests but this incorrect as I've not been able to send any requests and no one else is on my IP address . B4531826 (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- If you think there is a bug with the UTRS system you can report it here. — xaosflux Talk 17:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
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This maybe worth a look....
- https://old.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/108805l/sent_ceaseanddesist_letter_from_american_law_firm/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/1087x7z/new_brunswick_njsouth_dakota_legal_threats_made/
These may be of interest to WMF users. Osken2028w (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Help with old dumps
Hi! I have been working a research project that involves me downloading the latest dump every month from several projects — enwiktionary, eswiktionary, frwiktionary, dewiktionary, enwikiquote, eswikiquote, frwikiquote, dewikiquote, enwikibooks, eswikibooks, frwikibooks, and dewikibooks. I have been working on this for about two years, but I have been busy for a few months and didn’t have the time to download them immediately, but I thought that I could just download them later.
Today, I was finally ready to download them, when I noticed that the dumps from June and July are missing. I have looked all around the internet, but I have not found a solution.
Can any of you help? The last available username (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- @The last available username try archive.org? For example https://web.archive.org/web/20220801023527/https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/20220720/ ? — xaosflux Talk 12:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux Thanks very much! This helps me a lot and is even on the day I was looking for, but this unfortunately doesn't work for the other projects. The last available username (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @The last available username try the mirror at your.org, just change the name in the url, example: https://dumps.wikimedia.your.org/frwikibooks — xaosflux Talk 16:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux Thanks so much!!! You saved me! How do you find that and what is your.org? The last available username (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @The last available username there is a list of some known mirrors at Mirroring Wikimedia project XML dumps. — xaosflux Talk 16:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux Thanks so much!!! You saved me! How do you find that and what is your.org? The last available username (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @The last available username try the mirror at your.org, just change the name in the url, example: https://dumps.wikimedia.your.org/frwikibooks — xaosflux Talk 16:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux Thanks very much! This helps me a lot and is even on the day I was looking for, but this unfortunately doesn't work for the other projects. The last available username (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Voting now open on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
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JPBeland-WMF (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is still open. If you would like to learn more about them, there is a Diff blog post you can read.
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- JPBeland-WMF (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
talk:Deletionism and other related talk pages
Most of the discussion on these talk pages seem to just be FORUMy comments and complaints and nothing about improving the page (besides people who think they're on Wikipedia). Virtually nothing productive has happened on these talk pages, and I don't see much maintenance or moderation on these pages. Should we do something about the junk on these talk pages? 137a (talk) 15:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Voting closes soon on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
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Suspicious user contributing to several small wikis
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this user contributed large volumes of texts to a large number of pages in Zhuang languages, Uyghur language, Tibetic language, Hakka language, Eastern Min, Gan language...
frankly, i dont think a person fluent in all these distant languages exist, so this looks like Scots_Wikipedia#Controversy.
also, i cant find a page for reporting this kind of suspicious activity. RZuo (talk) 09:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Chatbots have hit critical mass and are creating copyright issues
No longer just for conversation...
Chatbots can now write content amazingly well, in a striking variety of formats and styles, following even complex instructions from users...
...but who owns the copyrights to what they write?
And can the generated content legally be placed under open license by users?
ChatGPT has gone viral, is taking the Web by storm, and is dominating tech news. What ChatGPT can do is mind blowing. The output from chatbots like ChatGPT have already started showing up on English Wikipedia. See w:Talk:Artwork title#Use of ChatGPT and w:Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#More detected AI-generated papers.
The English Wikipedia is currently in a vigorous debate on what to do about chatbots (also known as large language models, or LLMs) including a lengthy debate about copyrights at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Copyright status. There is also a policy draft being developed called w:Wikipedia:Large language models, with copyrights being discussed on its talk page.
As chatbot use is spreading like wildfire, and their output will be showing up on a wide range of Wikimedia projects, this is something you should become familiar with. The Transhumanist (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
P.S.: Chatbots can also be used for vandalism, hoaxes, pushing POVs, and generating misinformation on a scale hitherto undreamt of. And they have the bizarre tendency to make things up, including source references. We are going to need automated identification tools, and fast. The Transhumanist (talk) 12:32, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Last call to vote on revised UCoC enforcement guidelines!
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- JPBeland-WMF (talk) 21:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @JPBeland-WMF: Please, You archive the old votes on the actual page Universal Code of Conduct/Enforcement guidelines/Voting/Results. Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 12:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)