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New Chapter: WMF PhiladelphiaEdit

Hello Notafish, I hear you are the person to talk to about starting a new WMF chapter. A friend of mine (User:SB Johnny) and myself are trying to start a new chapter for the Philadelphia region. Send me a message, or an email, or you can contact me on IRC #Wikibooks if you prefer. Thanks! --Whiteknight 18:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, how does a person go about joining the chapters committee? Since I'm going through the process right now, and I'm developing the first of what will hopefully a long list of state chapters, I might be a pretty good resource to future chapter-starters. Please let me know, I would appreciate it. --Whiteknight (meta) (Books) 23:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Russian ChapterEdit

Dear Delphine,

I'm one of those who works on the Russian Chapter of WMF. I would like to ask you, is there a list of other chapter activities? I mean, what are tasks that may be solved with registered artificial person? I see the following:

  • Management of content rights:
    • Gathering of written GFDL confirmations from authors (to send them to WMF).
    • Issuing approvals for commercial organisations to allow them to use Wikipedia/etc content.
    • Commercial activity such as printing Wikipedia/etc or publishing on DVD.
    • To represent WMF in courts (subject to additional POA from WMF on per case basis).
  • Promotion of Wikipedia/etc and of free content ideology.
    • Advertising.
    • Organisation of meetings and conferences.
    • Lobbying of Copyleft/other free licenses-friendly changes in legislation.
    • To represent WMF in different forums.
  • Local technical maintainance:
    • Local cashing servers infrastructure.
    • Local service servers (for bots, mailservers, etc).
  • Finances.
    • Mananging donations, fundraisings.

Is there anything serious that I missed?

Thank you!

Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 09:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Dear Delphine,

thank you very much for your answers!

Could you please also comment some additional questions that I asked at my talk page? Thank you!

Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 16:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia DVD in RussianEdit

Dear Delphine, the general mood of the discussion on this in Russian Wikipedia community that there are much risk in publishing Russian Wikipedia as is. There are too much articles of low quality, and those that contain copyvio. I'm now promoting a project of the verification of the Russian Wikipedia articles for reliability and legality. My previous negotiations with a potential publisher is a one of roots for this verification project. If you are interested, I could write more details. Sorry if I seem to be immodest, writing you on several topics at once. I'm just one of, and definitely not the only, active participants in Ru-Wiki. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 00:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Norwegian chapter guidelinesEdit

The Swedes are discussing creating a chapter (again). I am not at all sure anything will become of it, but because there is an old try to create bylaws, that missed some important points (and because of some possible trolling) we need to create a good example of possible bylaws. Taking Wikimeda Norway's bylaws as a model sounds like the most obvious way to go about it, at least to me. Therefore I wonder, do you have any comment on the Wikimedia Norge bylaws? Anything that the WMF is likely to frown upon, if we copy it? What about paragraph 2, "The mission of Wikimedia Norge is to strengthen Wikimedia projects in Norwegian and Sami languages"? // habj 10:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comments here. As a general rule of thumb, I suggest not copying from one country to the other, but rather take a standard local bylaw set for a non-profit organisation and adapt it to Wikimedia needs. This prevents unconsistencies between different legal systems. You're better off looking at the following page: Step by step chapter creation guide notafish }<';> 15:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I personally find parts of the step by step guide, esp. the part about bylaws, confusing. It sounds to me like it is written with the kind of countries in mind where you have to create a corporation and then have it declared non-profit.
I don't really think there is such a thing as a written standard local bylaw set for a non-profit organisation/membership org, except maybe regarding very very basic things; it is very much traditions of what is practical rather than legal necessity. I suspect Norwegian traditions when it comes to membership organisations are very similar to Swedish ones, which is why it is logical to look across the border to this very close neighbour. Actually, some of the things you comment on in their bylaws - such as specifying month of the year when the annual meeting/general assembly should be held - is very much local standard. I have never seen a membership organisation where this was not specified in the bylaws. Some other things, such as suspending membership if someone speaks ill of the organisation, are also very much standard but kind of misplaced here since "Wikipedia" was added along with "Wikimedia Foundation" confusing the role of the chapter.
Anyway, the bylaws are probably put on ice for now which I think is for the best. Thank you for input! I very much agree on the suggestion to add "specifically" (if any specification on languages at all). Overall, your comments were useful reading. // habj 18:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, I suppose most countries have a specific law that regulates the founding of non-profits or non-profit-like organisations, which usually differs from normal corporate law. Our advice to follow one country's law rather than copy/paste from one set of bylaws to the other comes from the fact that specific requirements in the frame of the law might vary from country to country. What we mean by this is you're probably better off copying Greepeace's Swedish bylaws, or SOS Children's Swedish bylaws and adapting them to Wikimedia than taking Wikimedia Taiwan's or Wikimedia France's bylaws and trygin to adapt them to your legal structure. Of course, in the case of Norway and Sweden, the difference might be less.
As for such comments as that about the month of the year, it is more of a practical comment than a necessary comment. My experience in non-profit management across borders tells me that unless the month is a local legal requirement, you're better off leaving it out to start with ;-). If I have learned one thing while working in this field for the past two years, it is that the KISS principle is sometimes the best way to go.
What I am trying to do altogether though, is make sure that people take the question of chapter the right way around. ie. Founding a chapter is not "opening yet another wiki" but it is something which has roots in real life, legal frames and local culture and which should adapt to all of those, while keeping in mind the overall goal, ie. supporting Wikimedia projects and free knowledge. Keep me posted if Sweden melts the ice one day! notafish }<';> 11:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Reading the step-by-step creation guidelines, it is obvious we live in separate worlds here, legally. I guess there is no need explaining. You'll notice if we actually manage to create something - you never know... // habj 15:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

New ChapterEdit

I would like to start a new chapter, Wikimedia Chicago, centered in Grayslake, a suburb north of Chicago. I would like to know what you think & if it is a good idea. 35429AeuL 12:54, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


Hello Delphine, I sent you mail. thanks, Rotemdan 08:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


Pour le coup de Wikimedia Foundation/Fondation Wikimédia, j'avais un énorme doute, et dans le doute, j'ai traduit. C'est désormais noté, je ne le mettrai qu'en anglais. ;-) Les serveurs de frwp sont down, je vais donc probablement travailler sur meta. Merci, Arria Belli 15:20, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Completely frivolous and off-topic noteEdit


Sig idea, ya like? ~Kylu (u|t) 19:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sweet! :D Majorly (talk) 19:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
rofl. I'm not keen on the blue but let's try without? <*))notafish>< notafish }<';> 20:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Not so convinced. YOu know what bothers me most? that the fish is going backwards ;-). more ideas? notafish }<';> 20:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm I could rob it for my nick ... <*))>< I am however not sure the font can be available on your PC ...


Dear Sirs,

Once again…

A group of users (friends) of Portuguese Wikipédia brings more illiberal policies regarding an non free Wikipedia without a preoccupation with a environmental and social education.

This group of users (always the same) and some administrators propose and vote systematically to erase some pages with a total absence of knowledge about the subject, some of the articles with a high importance to the community. They have a chain of contacts to promote their vote and their contacts (friends) vote without common sense, reasoning, good judgment, brains or sagacity; They vote against the person and not against the article.

Less obvious for know, but perhaps as consequential over the long term, is a less participation of some users who TRY CONTRIBUTE to this projects with articles.

Because of this behavior, I decide do not agree with their conduct and I write my point of view in there discussion pages.

I have been block for suspicion of being a sock puppet after a check user. I know I am not a sock puppet, so is impossible the check user be positive.

Several of times, I and other users asked for a check user to my account to dissipate any suspicion about the issue (because they accuse-me to be a sock puppet). But our request was always reject for these (group) users.

However, know, the “group of users” decided to make a “check user”. It is strange and uncommon, because 2 days ago they rejected my check user proposal.

In the past, they admit in their discussion pages, they make a me check user and the check user was inconclusive (this in half-words). Know the result is positive? Is impossible. I know that. I am not a “sock puppet”.

All I ask to Wikimedia foundation is that an administrator check the merits of the block and to verify the check user. Send me the results by email, because is impossible this result.

I think these groups (with administrators) are trying making a fraud to eliminate my participation.

Put yourself in my shoes and imagine the frustration.

– The other user

– Me

– The checkuser rejected by “the group of users”

– The same checkuser approved by “the group of users”


Rui Resende


You would like to review Translation requests/Guidelines for future chapters/fr as well. Thanks :) --Aphaia 11:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Question about Wikimedia SverigeEdit


I saw on your agenda that you are coming to Sweden for our startup meeting in October. If possible, that would be wonderful.

In relation to that meeting I have a question: we're in the process of writing a statement to the press (for release a little nearer to the actual meeting) and we were wondering if we could get a quote from you about the new chapter, in the lines of "I know that many people in Sweden use Wikipedia because of its high quality and this is a good way of supporting that quality, as well as free content in general." Well, if you could phrase it any better, that would be preferable, but in case you're busy, I'd settle for that.

Thanks in advance, svHannibal 08:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania AtlantaEdit

I moved your question to our Q&A portion and answered it there. Hopefully it'll be sufficient. :) Mike Halterman 06:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

My e-mailEdit

I sent you an e-mail. Have you received it? —V. Z. 09:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You wrote that you had had no clue who I am. I send you the e-mails twice: 6 Aug 2007 07:22 and 30 Sep 2007 11:38. —V. Z. 14:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello Notafish,
please send your real-name, your wikiname, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to  . We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 16:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit WeekEdit

Point taken, but do you want to involve only those who can read English? --Aphaia 14:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


Ehm, sicura? io vedo anche un {{del}} nella votazione, ma c'è anche un parere maggioritario per tenerlo. Imho sarebbe meglio chiuderlo così che invece con un'azione individuale ;)--Nick1915 - all you want 14:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

PS Puoi venire su irc un momento? I need to talk to you--Nick1915 - all you want 14:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

section en TunisieEdit

Salut Delphine, c'est juste une idée en gestation mais j'espere créer une section en tunisie, est-il donc possible de te contacter par email ou pas? je ne sais pas s'il y a d'autres personnes qui ont deja cette idée ou pas.


Wikimedia IndonesiaEdit

Hi Delphine, How are you? Wikimedia Indonesia bylaws and article of incorpooration English translation is done. Official letter have been sent to ChapComm three days ago (on June 3), has anyone had a chance to look at it?

The same message is sent to Damian. 02:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


and thanks for your very quick response over at the ChapComm page - I am interested in finding out a bit more, and feel that I might be able to help. On a mildly related side note, I thought I should also let you know that you (well, your username) were one of the inspirations for a 'conversations' project I started over on the english wiki called 'Not The Wikipedia Weekly' - so there you go! cheers, Privatemusings 02:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

hope your jetlag / travel tiredness etc. is passing, and that you had a great Wikimania... I thought now might be a suitable moment to 'ping' you about this one? - I'm interested in learning a bit more about ChapComm, and maybe putting my hand up! cheers, and best wishes, Privatemusings 04:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
any news on this, notafish? anything I can do? :-) Privatemusings 05:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
just another friendly poke on the above :-) Privatemusings 10:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

2010 biddingEdit

Salut Delphine, j'ai mis 2 idees/questions sur le talkpage pour le 2010 wikimania - Talk:Wikimania 2010 - "request for info to aid bidding process" et "dual stage bidding process?". Qu'est ce que tu pense? Witty lama 21:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


After having read the mail sent to foundation-l, I want to say some things, but couldn't figure out exactly which things really needed to be said.

I wanted to say "Please, don't go!" ... but it's your decision if you want to or not. It's not our place to guilt you into staying.

I wanted to say "You've done a fine job in the past" ... but the evidence is obvious. Praise, even earned, pales next to seeing your accomplishments for yourself.

So, I decided that the best thing to say was:

Thank you, for all the work you've done. Your time and efforts have been appreciated, even if the community is slow to recognize its hardest workers and leaders at time. Kylu 04:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Legal departmentEdit

I am interested to join the legal department or known as juriwiki. I am not an expert in legal field but I believe that I would be able to help out here. Juriwiki and the legal department sites seem not to be update. Perhaps I could help out here.

Please let me know what should I do and how could I help. Diagramma Della Verita 08:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, I do think that the legal department should get back on track. How about Mike Godwin, isn't he still in charge of Wikimedia legal issues? I will try to do what I can. Diagramma Della Verita 16:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

What do volunteers do when there are media misusing the foundation works? Do we write to them directly or through the foundation? Besides, no one will believe that we are representing the foundation requesting them to remove the content without any official letter from the foundation itself. Diagramma Della Verita 06:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Mike should handle that. You can reach him at mgodwin Cbrown1023 talk 19:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi Delphine, Would you be able to help with this query? Thanks AndrewRT 23:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Expert Peer Review process (or lack of such) for Science related articlesEdit

Hi - I posted the section with the same name on my talk page. Could you take part in discussion ? Thanks ARP 22:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

SUL thanksEdit

Hello Delphine. Thank you for vouching for me to the admins on pt.wikipedia :) There is only one outstanding problem, fr:Utilisateur:Arwel Parry is still blocked even though it has now been usurped. Could you arrange for it to be unblocked, please? Merci beaucoup! -- Arwel 18:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Greeting cardEdit

I have created a WikiGreetingCard using your Wikipostcard image. Check it out and let me know what you think. I am actually quite confuse over the license issue. Diagramma Della Verita 18:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)|

I have added the details on image, content source and author. I am actually not too sure on which license should be placed under the derive version (whether it is same license with the original one). Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Diagramma Della Verita 16:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Confirmation of user rightsEdit


Just letting you know that your user rights are up for confirmation this quarter; the discussion is currently taking place at Meta:Administrators/confirm.

Daniel (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

User rightsEdit

Please sign see here if you wish to continue holding user rights here. Thanks, Majorly talk 15:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed link above :) Cheers--Nick1915 - all you want 10:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, someone moved the page and apparently suppressed the redirect. I've recreated the redirect, but Nick fixed the link above anyway. Thanks, Majorly talk 13:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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