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Rollback

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For Infomation: I have proposed a change to the summary of rollbacks to avoid automatic distribution of harassment etc. in the future. Comments are welcome. phabricator:T368876 ๐–๐ข๐ค๐ข๐๐š๐ฒ๐ž๐ซ ๐Ÿ‘ค๐Ÿ’ฌ 12:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Proposal to split Steward requests/Global

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Previously discussed here: Talk:Steward_requests/Global/Archives/2024#The_state_of_SRG and Talk:Steward_requests/Global/Archives/2023#Template_bug?. After deployments of global account blocks, I propose to split this page as following (names are provisional):

Uncontroversial requests:

  • Steward requests/Global locks: cases that global locks are still required, including: (1) WMF or community global banned users and their socks; (2) compromised users; (3) deceased users; (4) users with improper name that global hiding is required.
  • Steward requests/Open proxy: requests to globally block open proxies.
  • Steward requests/Vandalism report: requests to globally block vandalism-only or spam-only users (including accounts and IPs), ongoing cross-wiki disruptive users (including accounts and IPs), and sock puppets with cross-wiki activities. Users should provide diffs or links that justifies blocking.

Potentially controversial requests:

  • Steward requests/User problems: Any user problems that does not fit the three above cases, or is otherwise controversial. A bot may automatically move any requests on the first three pages to this page after one week, to reduce the backlog of above pages.

GZWDer (talk) 11:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

What do you expect this will improve? The SRG backlog has significantly decreased and this looks like it is going to be complicating things (e.g. someone report a vandalism IP range, but then find that it is a proxy so lets move the discussion to the other page). โ€” xaosflux Talk 12:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have to agree with Xaos here. I'm fine with potentially creating a page for potentially controversial requests (since we currently have no real dedicated page for such reports, meaning they are currently going to SRG instead, where they don't really belong either), but I am not of the opinion that we need four separate pages for global block/lock reports - it's really too confusing and I don't find it necessary in the current state. Like mentioned the SR backlogs are no longer as large as they were at the time of the linked discussions and I also find that they have significantly decreased to the point where they are now within control of the steward team; I and other stewards have monitored steward requests pages daily, most requests are relatively quickly handled and I wouldn't say the backlogs are so large to the point where stewards can't handle them in the current state.
I would also consider splitting SRG in the future if the backlogs get completely out of control, but given that since the end of SE2024 they have been mostly low I don't find that SRG is insufficient at the moment. EPIC (talk) 12:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
A potential new workflow and page could be for "global account unblock appeals", but I think this is premature right now. The stewards team is currently reviewing workflows for global account blocks, some of which could result in more on-wiki requests that could benefit from a dedicated forum. The day-1 launch of that capability is not expected to cause any immediate change. โ€” xaosflux Talk 12:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not a stew here, but I can't see how this will improve things. xaoflux's suggestion for unblock appeals seems reasonable, but splitting a page that doesn't get very long anymore doesn't sound intuitive at all โ€“ it'll only cause more confusion, particularly for non-regular Meta users. --SHB2000 (t โ€ข c) 13:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply