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London Wikimedia Meetup Number 60

Date and time: Sunday 12th August 2012 — 13:00 onwards

Location: Penderel's Oak Pub, Holborn, London WC1

Attendees

Add your name to this list if you can make it to our sixtieth meeting. Note that people of all ages and all Wikimedia projects are welcome!

Please also invite any London Wikimedia people you know (or have had wiki dealings with) – spread the word!

WereSpielChequers (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should be there. Johnbod (talk) 17:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing ventured, nothing gained... JLT1912 (talk)
I'll be there provisionally - perhaps talk about Education/Outreach? --RexxS (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should be able to make it Leutha (talk) 17:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll probably make the decision on the day or the night before, but I really hope to go. Currently no engineering works on the Great Eastern Main Line. WilliamH (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Should make it, depending on a last minute holiday booking before the academic year starts. Fæ (talk)
I hope to come as well Natkabrown (talk) 14:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Chris Keating (The Land) (talk) 22:02, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Most possibly. Daria Cybulska (talk) 10:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew Davidson (talk) 13:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looking forward to my first Wikimedia event! Isabelle Yates (talk) 12:17, 10 August 2012
HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:15, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:47, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
stranger things have happened! Thryduulf (en.wikt,en.wp,commons) 01:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Remember, omnishambles. - hahnchen (talk)

Men's Marathon

The Men's Marathon for the London Olympics is being held on the same day......en:2012_Olympic_Marathon_Course

Agenda

Informal chitchat with no set agenda.

If you have some ideas for discussion topics, please put them below.

Our new fundraiser Kat (user:Bavage) is interested in ideas for donor events, perhaps we can do a little brainstorm in the pub?
Is this the best pub? Should we move?
- Let's at least try another location once in a while.
  - The issue might be that people expect the meeting to be there. Shakespeare's Head, a Wetherspoons, is very close by. Gordo (talk)

I am open to a new venue. The Wi-Fi in the Penderal's Oak ranges from notoriously awful to nonexistent, then again, that might be due where we are situated in the pub? WilliamH (talk) 09:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point - but the Wifi in many Wetherspoons is faulty... Gordo (talk) 09:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are certainly better venues. I've been going to The Old Star in Westminster which has good food, beer, location and wi-fi. Their function room is used every Sunday by a gaming group but they have two other floors and there are other pubs in the same chain. Andrew Davidson (talk) 13:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about Cafe Nero, Camden Jamestown Rd, 7 Jamestown Road London, NW1 7BY. The wifi is good and they are quiet on Sundays unless it's raining very-very hard. Natkabrown (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If we shift venue then we should be looking for a place so big that 30 of us turning up is still one corner. A place that is cheap, quiet enough to talk, has good WiFi, a central location and is sufficiently unhurried that we can hang around for hours without hassle. WereSpielChequers (talk) 00:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All good points; alternatively, they could just fix the bloody WiFi. The router is behind the bar, isn't it? I wonder if the signal would be better if we all gathered on the raised platform bit, on the left as one walks to the bar from the entrance. WilliamH (talk) 16:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have spoke to them about the router on 3 separate occasion this winter. Once a month. Pointless. They promise, but they don't do a thing. Natkabrown (talk) 21:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The current venue is too much pain to get to, living just outside London in the Home counties. So i will never be able to attend. Dolfrog (talk) 12:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While non-Londoners are very welcome (and we do have some regulars from outside London), it is the London meetup so accessibility for non-Londoners isn't going to be a top priority. It is very central in London, which makes it quite a good choice for Londoners. I suggest you organise a local meetup - the WMUK office can probably help you out if you need anything to get you going. --Tango (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If we're going to move the venue, we need to make sure we publicise it very widely. I have been known to just turn up on the 2nd Sunday of a month without looking at the meetup page, and I doubt I'm the only one. I've probably done that having missed a few, as well, so just having someone (or a sign) at the old venue for the first month wouldn't be enough. --Tango (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point.... and a reason not to change without very good reason. Gordo (talk) 20:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Education
Arbcom
Outreach
Satellite meetings for the home counties? Gordo (talk) 19:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About the meetup

Location of The Penderel's Oak

London meetups are generally casual social events where we...

Drink coffee, beer, tea and some of us have Sunday brunch. Sunday roasts are no longer offered but they do a reasonable pizza now and have a range of other snacks and dishes.
Welcome guests from around the world and other groups which meet there
Chat about Wikimedia or any other topics
Experienced Wikimedians help out new editors and share experiences about anything from copyright to editing tools.

You can expect to meet some very keen Wikimedians; however, this is also an open invite for anyone interested in finding out more about Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects such as Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata, and Wikisource.

New and prospective editors are also very welcome.

The pub is quite quiet and family-friendly on a Sunday lunchtime, so younger Wikimedians will also feel welcome and safe. Alcohol consumption is not compulsory!

Disabled access

The pub has an accessible loo on the ground floor. There are some sections of the pub that are only accessible by steps, but we always meet in the main step free section, usually opposite the main doors.

Location: Penderel's Oak

The Penderel's Oak is a Wetherspoons pub in Holborn.
Address: 283-288 High Holborn, London, WC1V 7HP (OpenStreetMap) (Google Maps)

It's easy to find us – we're usually the crowd with several laptops on the large tables straight ahead of you when you enter the pub. If not, then look for a tabletop Wikimedia/Wikipedia poster and laptops with Wikipedia stickers on them. Wikimania t-shirts can also be a good clue.

Getting there

	Chancery Lane	0.2 miles (350 m)
	Holborn	0.2 miles (350 m)
	Farringdon	0.5 miles (800 m)
	Temple	0.5 miles (800 m)

The Penderel's Oak is between Holborn tube station and Chancery Lane tube station. Farringdon station and Temple tube station are not too far. The pub is also within walking distance of Waterloo railway station (1.3 miles; 2 km), St Pancras railway station (1.2 miles; 1.9 km) and Kings Cross.

Several bus routes also go directly to Holborn station; if travelling from Waterloo, it is quicker to travel by bus than by tube.

Bike hire (TfL scheme) is in Red Lion Street, just opposite the pub.

Visit the TfL Journey Planner for more information about your fastest route.

Back-up plan

In the rare event of a kitchen closure or another problem at the Penderel's Oak, the meetup will be relocated to the Shakespeare's Head – another Wetherspoons pub located nearby. To get there from the Penderel's Oak, when exiting onto the street turn left, then when walking past Holborn tube station turn left again down Kingsway, and after a short walk the pub will be found on the left-hand side.

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