Grants talk:PEG/WM BE/WLM BeLux 2016/Report

Hi Romaine. Thank you for this detailed report and all the work put into organizing WLM BeLux 2016. It's great to hear that you met most of your goals and that you were happy with the level of engagement from participants and the volunteer organizing team since we know that was a key goal this year. Based on the enthusiastic feedback from participants that they "would like to do more", are you thinking about more photo events for the next year?

Please note that we are happy to receive constructive feedback on the grants process, but feedback such as "Wikimetrics is a crappy tool" is not helpful and does not provide us any information on how to improve. We are currently working on a new metrics tools that hopefully will serve community and WMF needs better. You can read more about this new tool and provide feedback here. Also, to get the information for "4a. # of new images/media added to Wikimedia articles/pages", you can use the Glamorous tool. Based on this tool, the number for Belgian images is 1,241, which is 27% (very high!).

After the approved reallocation, there is still EUR 147.57 remaining unspent. Please return the funds following the instructions here.

Thank you again for the team's efforts and congrats on a successful contest. Best, Alex Wang (WMF) (talk) 03:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear Alex Wang (WMF), What 2018 will bring is unknown, but we did not receive the required support from WMF regarding the 2017 grant that we can't do much more. We only organise Wiki Loves Public Space, at the bare minimum what is needed. Having translation support or not is our bottleneck due the nature of our country, and we do not have the feeling that the grants team is taken that seriously enough.

We understand "Wikimetrics is a crappy tool" is not helpful, but hopefully it does make clear that working with that tool is not what it should be. And that is the hole purpose of mentioning this. It is not the first year we encounter this issue, and even after following trainings on it we got stuck. Maybe the quoted words are a bit harsh, but we waisted to much time on this. It should be very easy: I enter a set of user names, I select the statistics I want/need, click "calculate", and it gives the answer. I am sure other options are possible, but this should be the basics. What goes wrong with the Wikimetrics tool is simple, the design of the tool is worse, but almost everything between entering user names and getting output is unclear, vague, unknown, a mystery how it works, but above all: not simple.

The remaining funds (EUR 147.57) are already returned to WMF...

Greetings - Romaine (talk) 09:10, 18 July 2017 (UTC)