Wikivoyage/Lounge/Archive/2014-03
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wikivoyage.org language positioning
Between yesterday and today, the links on the main www.wikivoyage.org page have changed; specifically German and English have switched locations. Anyone know the reason for this? LtPowers (talk) 15:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- See special:diff/7358677/7731978. You could ask Mxn or discuss on Talk:Www.wikivoyage.org template. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:00, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, my mistake. For some reason I thought the Wikivoyage portal arranges wikis by the number of page views per hour, as on the Wikipedia and Wikibooks portals. But Talk:Www.wikivoyage.org template indicates otherwise. I've reverted the changes. Sorry for the confusion. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 08:41, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure how the languages were sorted, and the only indication I found on the talk page (looking just now) was that it was indeed sorted by pageviews. (I always thought it was number of articles, in which en is still beating de by a significant margin.) The oddity here seems to be that de's pageviews spiked big time last month for some reason. If that's the way we're sorting them, then de should be first; I just didn't know the reason for the change at the time. LtPowers (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Need help for the automatic listing counter
If some one could help, the general listing template only display the number 1 before each listing item. Any idea? (CSS code) Thanks for help.--Adehertogh (talk) 11:25, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- I've opened a random page and it seems to work now, if not, contact me on my home page. --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:14, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Username policy
Does Wikivoyage allow usernames that consist of a name of a travel agency? Is it fair to block users that made such a choice at their first step on Wv without any preliminary warning?
May sysops block anybody just because they assumed inappropriately promotional behaviors in wv articles? Gobbler (talk) 17:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- en.wikivoyage doesn't seem to have a policy against promotional usernames. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- In fact I perceived an unfair sysop' practice and one user already expressed his complaints about those serial blocks and account deletions. However the matter is not resolved and a collective action should be taken. Should Italian Wikivoyage add an Username Policy as en/wv already does in order to avoid any misunderstanding? New users that dare describe themselves as tourist agents are sentenced guilty there and banned from Wikivoyage even before editing anything. --Gobbler (talk) 02:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think that's unfortunate, and I disagree with that point of view. It is a basic principle of Wikivoyage that purely promotional posts are forbidden, and we also have the policy (at least on en/wv, but I presume in every language) of restricting tour listings, but it certainly does not follow that a tour guide cannot share very useful information, if s/he so chooses. I could understand why, with Italy absolutely crawling with tour agencies, there would be much more wariness, but if things are the way you describe, I think that's going too far. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- en.Wikipedia has a username policy which forbids posting as a company or organisation, among other things. Not sure if it's helpful or only serving to hide the w:WP:COI, though. In any case, WP policy doesn't bind WV in any way. Various WV's have voy:WV:Don't tout or a variant but that's on content and not usernames. K7L (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think that's unfortunate, and I disagree with that point of view. It is a basic principle of Wikivoyage that purely promotional posts are forbidden, and we also have the policy (at least on en/wv, but I presume in every language) of restricting tour listings, but it certainly does not follow that a tour guide cannot share very useful information, if s/he so chooses. I could understand why, with Italy absolutely crawling with tour agencies, there would be much more wariness, but if things are the way you describe, I think that's going too far. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- In fact I perceived an unfair sysop' practice and one user already expressed his complaints about those serial blocks and account deletions. However the matter is not resolved and a collective action should be taken. Should Italian Wikivoyage add an Username Policy as en/wv already does in order to avoid any misunderstanding? New users that dare describe themselves as tourist agents are sentenced guilty there and banned from Wikivoyage even before editing anything. --Gobbler (talk) 02:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Only a user was blocked whit this motivation, Jato Travel and he is guilty of spam, see here and user contribs (first and only edit at 12:01, 12 nov 2013, blocked at 03:11, 17 nov 2013). 5 days later... Gobbler, please, don't don't act as a victim, the italian WV's community has decided to be aganist the promotional user name, lately your contribution on it:voy is just limited to polemics and trolling, nothing that can increase the value of the project. BTW: the decision of community is here--Wim b / [ t ] 14:20, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- In all language versions of Wikivoyage that I have looked at, the listings of the URLs, phone numbers, addresses, etc of sights, activities, restaurants, hotels, etc is more prolific and explicit than in Wikipedia and it is best to work with the grain of human nature and encourage explicit and transparent user names that make clearer any conflict of interest or special knowledge. --118.93nzp (talk) 03:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)