Wikimedia Asia Meeting Minutes 20130809

First organized by WMHK in 2010
- Founding members: see the list
- Discussed in Berlin, and founded in Gda?sk in 2010
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Nothing has really happened since then

Motives edit

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Asia_Project

Asaf's comments on Wikimedia Asia: Do something !

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asian_Chapters_Meeting

Francis (HK): Chinese Wikipedia conference [WMHK, WMTW, Chinese Wikipedians?] Josh (PH): Conference is good. But need to set up some goals for the conference. What should we get from the conference? John (AU): Chinese representation should add up Francis (HK): Foundation focused on India, bring users up will be least controversial. Butch (PH): Start from simple thing. I am interest in articles of creating Chinese provinces, or major roads. Make those into different language. Database establishing programs. Craig (AU): Agree. Start from easy tasks, sth. easy and achievable. Then we can tackle something more difficult. Josh (PH): What does we want from this? Francis(:Non political, but easy said then done really. Josh (PH): Agree topics on non-political

What do we want to achieve? edit

Non-political
Shangkuanlc(TW): Cultural heritage (accumulation of free knowledge; WLM/Wiki Loves Art)
- Asian cultures
Best practices for projects
Conan (HK): Books of asian countries in public domain into Wikisource. e.g. Vietnamese books into Chinese Wikisource. China & India's books.
- John (AU): Texts every Wikisource should have
Shangkuanlc (TW): Open data in goverment of each countries.
Maung (MM): Make it easier to contribute.
Ganesh (NE): Tried to contribute an article in the English Wikipedia about a famous but deceased person using old books. [Notability]
Vantharith (KH): A central calendar of events (BarCamp, conferences, etc.) and a list of skills
Wikipedia Roadshow

- Technical challenge: difficult to translate into other languages.

Most of Asian countries have their own characters. Sometimes have difficulties: e.g. VisualEditor does not work properly; the PDF book creator does not work properly

- push foundation to do sth. about this.
  - Jack (SG): VisualEditor is still in Beta. Just a time problem.
    - Craig (AU): Help the foundation about Visual Editor.
    - Conan (HK): translation of VE for zh-hans/jp have been done. Such problems (with relations with compatibility of Asian script fonts) can be overcomed under our solidarity.
    - Francis(HK):We should show solidarity
    - Jack: Francis said "pressure group" with the Foundation. The group can serve as an intermediary in content disputes.

Cheol (KR): Rendering; beta testing team for Asian languages

Deror (IL): Bug Amir Aharoni (bald guy with a big beard) for interface issues
Vishnu (IN): It is important that we first compile a list and do priority grading of the issues. I do not think bugging a single person will help. There are clear steps listed out to resolve bugs on Meta.
Tanvir (BD): Contact Tomasz about PDF book creator
Vishnu (IN): Is there a link to the filed bug about this issue? Would be useful to have it.

Shangkuanlc (TW): We should broaden the discussion: not just the features, but what functions of Wikipedia can do.

We want more users
Friendlier environment for editors
Training documents (i.e. Education Program)
Teahouse

Maung (MM): Mobile editing difficult to contribute on Mobile phones.
Gawainus (CN): In a Guangzhou meeting only 1 girl showed up (gender gap)

Broad things that we want edit

Jack (SG): Advocacy, sharing of best practices
Chris (ID): Commons (we have been focusing on issues about text)
Francis (HK): Wikimedia Asia "website", data/status sheet, Asian advisory board (no competition)
Vishnu (IN): What can we do collectively? (government funding, advocacy networks, etc.)
- Visdaviva:cultural level, educational level...
- Visdaviva:finances, resources, projects on Wikipedia...that could be multilingual
- Visdaviva:How to tap into these resources? Rather than technical issues.

Asaf: We don't meet between Wikimania and the Wikimedia Conference (Chapter Conference) sharing resources, sharing programs

Butch (PH): We have social media

Conan (HK): Manpower -> let's start small

Eugene (PH): An "Asian" Wikipedia Signpost (newsletter) -> monthly? quarterly?
- Tanvir: can we sustain this?

Asaf: most of us don't share best practices -> we should do common projects (an Asian content exchange program?)

3 items we are going to do in the following 3 months edit

Content exchange,
- Randomizer/lottery challenge of certain article.

Visual Editor,
- Cheol(KR): report on asian languages. the testing pool.
- Tanvir(BD): It's already there. Find the box and the link there.
- Cherol(KR): Bankpool & test group for visual editor? Spreadsheet for bug input.
- Craig(AU): Doing the testing with the team.
- Asaf: People complaing on Wiki needs to be translated for WMF to hear. BugZilla link.

Chapter exchange,
- Asaf wants to see the translation! People only speak in English will help other language to paste.
- Piotrus(Poland/KR) want to volunteer. Get people onto front page.

Keep in Touch edit

We are on Facebook!
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikimedia.asia
Asian Chapters Mailing List:
- https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters
- Tanvir: Let's write something on the mailing list for 100 words. If I see enough people there, then we can do something together.

Craig (AU): Rename the mailing list to remove the word "chapters"?

- ??(??):Rename the mailing list / Open the archive but close the mailing list.
Francis(HK):Every country a Go To Person

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