WikiObject
A Wikipedia for Open and Structured Objects/Product Data
WikiObject | |
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The logo for the project, if you already have one | |
Status of the proposal | |
Status | stalled |
Reason | no regular activity in years Dronebogus (talk) 07:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC) |
Details of the proposal | |
Project description | how about a wikipedia about objects? Instead of generic articles of , for example, "Ballpoint pen" or "Bic cristal" it would be "Green Ballpoint pen Bic cristal 2014" Doing these for millions of objects would allow people to have an open, free, universal and central place to refer specific objects. |
Is it a multilingual wiki? | Yes, but most of information will not need translation, like numeric data (weight, length, ...), proper nouns (manufacturer, distributor, ...) or references/links (official website, parts, source code repository, ...).
New Wikidata properties that probably will be needed like "Standard Compliant", "IP CODE" , and much more, will need translation, but only once. Objects name and description are main reason for multilingual |
Potential number of languages | Is the project going to be in one language or in many? |
Proposed tagline | A Wikipedia for Objects |
Proposed URL | A separated website/tool could be created. wikiobject.org isn't availiabe so url could be something like objects.wikidata.org |
Technical requirements | |
New features to require | WIkidata could be use as structured data storage and Wikicommons as file storage.
Some tools from Wikidata like AutoList and Reasonator could be implemented in a standalone website for the project. A standalone website is not completely neccesary but probably will help final user to separate wikipedia articles from wikidata objects paradigm. |
Development wiki | https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects |
Interested participants | |
List of project participants | |
Disclaimer: These examples are in a very early stage and it may contents wrong or imprecise data, be careful and please edit as needed, Thanks.
Practical applications
editCreating neutral and standard lists
editNowadays if anyone create, for example, a tutorial for building something (DIY projects, cooking receipts, ...) they have to link all items to a commercial or no-neutral web which could change its url in the future or redirect it to adds or whatever.
Lists could be created in external webpages linking Wikimedia objects webpage or/and could be created as category pages in Wikipedia.
Example: Currently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_of_the_Year article lists cars which won COTY award but not links to the specific car (AUDI A3 Hatchback 2012–Present) but generic serie (Audi A3). The good thing at this point it's that to start creating object lists only item name is necessary, no infoboxes or description needed.
Product comparision / Product versions comparison
editExample: IPhone smartphones with CPUs and sizes comparison: https://w.wiki/RC2 (press execute query button to see results)
Universal repository for inventories
editLot of business fill their inventories again and again with same data ("cardboard box 50x30x15", "step by step nema motor 17", ... ) they should be able to import this data from an open website with their corresponding info like GTIN, SKU, Barcode... and more in the future weight, size, ...
Example: Sample list of non-alcoholic beverages with GTIN : https://w.wiki/Rpe It's possible to download the list in CSV , JSON , etc... clicking in "Download" at the right botom menu.
Products Recycling and Reutilitation
editImagine if we use wikidata properties (of properties/Generic https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Generic) like "has part" and "part of" , people will find other uses for objects, or discover were to find.
Regulatory compliance
editSocial activism and Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
editCompanies have info and metrics about their costumers (habits, location, ...) why not costumers have info about companies products, who manufacture what?, what products have a good Carbon footprint?, what products have been retired from some problem?, what are Fair Trade?. This also can moved companies do better.
Stakeholders use cases
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A) Use cases for DIY Community and Open Source Hardware Organizations.
editMakers, Hackspaces/FabLabs, Open Source Hardware Communities like Arduino, Raspberry Pi, RepRap, FreeCAD , related media like Instructables and Makezine.
To list components of DIY projects. This is an example of an item (Prusa I3 Hephestos 3D Printer) that have parts. One of this is another item (Freaduino Mega 2560 v1.2.) and the other one is an autogenerated list of stepper motors that match some Prusa I3 specifications. Actually, if you want to add another stepper motor to the list you only have to create a wikidata item with this statements: "instance of stepper motor" , "width 1.7 inch" and "lentgh 1.7 inch".
Example 2: Arduino/Genuino Uno Rev 3 Datasheet
editBe aware that EEPROM, SRAM and Flash Memory values are not defined as Arduino characteristics because they really correspond to one of its parts, ATmega328P microcontroller. Other example with data about IceZUM Board.
Example 3: List of arduino official boards
editHere, using Wikidata Query Service is possible to query "items manufactured by Arduino LCC company" equivalent to said "offical arduino boards" Other similar examples:
- Example : List of arduino compatible boards Using Reasonator you can see all items that are instance of "Arduino Compatible board" item (source: Arduino-compatible_boards).
- Example : List of arduino compatible shields Same as above but this time value for "instance of" is "Arduino Compatible Shield"(source: http://shieldlist.org/).
Example 4: All Open source hardware Items in Wikidata
Using Wikidata Query Service, this links runs the following query:
#All Open Source Hardware Items in Wikidata
#P31 is "instance of" property ID and Q159172 is "Open Source Hardware" item ID
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?_image ?_official_website ?_source_code_repository WHERE {
?item wdt:P31 wd:Q159172.
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en". }
OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P18 ?_image. }
OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P854 ?_reference_URL. }
OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P856 ?_official_website. }
OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P1324 ?_source_code_repository. }
}
B) Use cases for Gamers
editExample 1: List of videogames in Wikidata
editUsing Wikidata Query Service we are able to list every videogame and its data like release date, developer, genre,etc... We have limited query to 10 results..
C) Use cases for Manufacturers
editManufacturer could have a base place (wikidata) to display useful info, get product feedback, and start conversations with their stackholders about specific objects.
Example 1: Products manufactured by Arduino LCC company
editThis could be an use as a company product catalog
Example 2: Dell P2415Q 24 review
editUsing Wikidata properties for review platforms like Property:P3308 for https://lib.reviews/ companies could get centralized feedback about a specific product
D) Use cases for Distributors
editProduct distributors can enhace their catalogs and inventories with wikidata object information:
Example 1 : List of LED lamps
editPeople usually browse a product by a certain features (properties) like and almost all these data are not tabulated or are in pdf catalogs, datasheet, ... with these objects in wikidata, people (target market) should find it faster and easier.
Example 2 : basic data source to their websites
Use wikidata objects as main source for their websites will let distributors center their effort in more valuable data, like comments, reviews, tutoriales, releated services, etc. ...
E) Use cases for Sponsors/Investors
editThey could make their donations/funding visible to all the world
Example : Using Property:P859 to indicate the IceZUM Board sponsor
editUsing Property:P859 is possible to indicate sponsor of an object. In these example also is set from/to sponsor dates
F) Use cases for Public Administration
editExample 1: To compare and check products in public procurements.
editIn Public Administration, most of works have to go out to public tender in order to compete for get the contract. If these works requires to use of some products, these products have to fullfill certain requirements. Example: A City Council wants to renew its street lights and several companies offers a wide range of new LED lights. Then City Council technicians has to compare all of it to know if they fullfill certain ISO/UNE Standards and certain requirements as light flux, color temperature, ...
We should need to focus in a few public furniture objects like "street lights" and "trash containers" and define needed properties.
G) Use cases For Standards organization
edit(Example users in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_organization)
Example 1: To give visibility and more value to their standards compliance
editIf there is a place where companies can show their products standards compliance like RoHS, CE, some ISO etc... and these place is consulted by millions of people, more companies will want to get these standards compliance for their products.
H) Use cases For Final User
editProduct reviews and consumer protection
Example 1: "The Bone Clocks" book review
editAt the identifiers section of this wikidata item, It's defined lib.reviews ID linking to this book review (https://lib.reviews/thing/5d959136-380e-48ad-93e2-2db6bb081faa)
Create object/item quick tutorial
edit1) Before creating a new item, make sure does not already exist searching here
2) If not, click on "Create Item" in left sidebar menu
3) Complete form and press "Create Item" button.
4) Let's say that your recently created item is a "Raspberry Pi", now you can start adding a statement to it. An example of statement is "Raspeberry Pi is a single-board computer"
- To do this in wikidata you should add to "Raspberry Pi" item, the property "is a subclass of" with the value "single-board computer", see it in action: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q245
4.1) So to do it, in your item form press "+ add" button, and a searchbox will appear to add a property.
4.2) Start typing the name of the property you want to add and select it.
- There is a list of useful properties for objects https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects , but general properties list is much bigger https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties.
4.3) A new searchbox will appear to add the value, if the property makes reference to another item, if have to be created before if not you have to be create it, in the same way as is explained in steps 1 to 3.
5) To see your item in a more nice interface search it on https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator
Useful Properties
editProperty | Wikidata property | Objects Related | Info | |
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Instance of | P31 | All | ||
Manufacturer | P176 | Manufactured products | ||
Has part | P527 | |||
List of | P360 | |||
Length | P2043 | |||
Width | P2049 | |||
Mass | P2067 | |||
Use | P366 | |||
Image | P18 | |||
Publication date | P577 | Is possible to use like release date? | ||
Connector | P2935 | |||
Product | P1056 | |||
Color | P462 | |||
Clock speed | P2149 | |||
Luminous intensity | P3041 | |||
Follows | P155 | For indicate next/previous item versions/models | ||
Followed by | P156 | |||
Memory capacity | P2928 | |||
Throughput | P2957 | |||
Color Temperature | No | light bulbs, lamps | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature | |
IP CODE | P7315 | Industrial manufacturing objects | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code | |
Sponsor | P859 | Open Source Objects particularly | ||
Lifetime (hours) | No | light bulbs, lamps | ||
Standard Compliant | P5009 | Electronic Components. | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_organization | |
Based on | P144 | |||
Material used | P186 | |||
Source Code | P1324 | |||
3D File | P4896 | Also is proposed as Wikimedia commons file.
Proposal: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/3D_Model | ||
EAN | No | https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Article_Number | ||
GTIN | P3962 | |||
Colour Index International constitution ID | P2027 | |||
Brand | P1716 | |||
By product | P2821 | |||
Carbon dioxide equivalent | P5991 | |||
fabrication method | P2079 | |||
discontinued date | P2669 | |||
price | P2284 | |||
product certification | P1389 | |||
user manual link | P2078 | |||
Operating Temperature | P5066 | |||
Catalog | P972 | |||
CPU | P880 | |||
Scanned File | P996 | |||
Power Consumed | P2791 | |||
Voltage | P2436 | |||
Data transfer speed | P6711 |
Useful links
edit- Uselful/related wikidata properties: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects
- About data structure in wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:About_data
- graph view https://angryloki.github.io/wikidata-graph-builder/?property=P527&item=Q24885444
- Property browser: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/propbrowse/
- all available properties: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties
- Difference between "Is a subclass" and "is an instance of" porperty https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Basic_membership_properties
- Query service https://query.wikidata.org/
- Query tool https://petscan.wmflabs.org/
- More Wikidata tools https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Tools
- Wikipedia Protection policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy
- Introdutction to Wikidata Query Service: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/A_gentle_introduction_to_the_Wikidata_Query_Service
Alternative names
editWikiitems, Wikiproducts, OpenProducts Wiki?
SWOT Analysis: strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats
editThreats
editData authorithy
editA way to take care about it could be done in a future thought "Signed statements" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138708
Constraint violations
editFuture feature for inline validation could solve this problem. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138748
Similar Wikimedia projects
edit- Wikimedia:Wikiprocess: This projects aims for "List all Open Source Process (or procedure) and Schemes (or drawing) for production of all manufactured things." Wikiobject has open source hardware spirit in common. For example, open source objects like Prusa I3 3D printer (see wikiobject example at https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q24885444) could store/reference schemes, drawings, etc... Further, some of "IceZUM Alhambra electronic board (https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q25026145) " contributors suggest that it could be good to store here their electronic board components files like 3D models (step and fcstd formats) that now are scattered in several places like https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD-library.
- Wikimedia:WikiReUse: From its author: "it would be cool to have a wiki style repurposing website... e.g I have say 2 meters of plastic tube, what can I do with it apart from use it for plumbing... or swarf from my drill - can it be used for something apart from just going in the bin...". WikiReUse share reutilization/recycling wikis functionality. Maybe this could be possible now using some wikidata properties for several objects:
- "Use" https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P366
- "List of" https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P360
- "Instance of" https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31
- "Has part" https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P527
- Wikimedia:Wikidentify: "Wikidentify (also termed Reverse Wikipedia) could be a project, to identify objects on earth, like we know from en:identification keys in botanic. There could be existing many ways to identify things parallel. Base could be Wikidata, finally you get the Wikipedia article. You can combine in these keys inclusion, exclusion and anabolic properties.". Most of main idea in common. Maybe some of Wikidentify#usage examples are already possible through sparql query language and tools like https://wdq.wmflabs.org/wdq/
- Wikidata:WikiProject Electronic Components
- Wikidata:WikiProject Lists
- Wikidata:WikiProject Ontology
- Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Robotics
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open
- https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Rjlabs/WikiData_Company_Data_Project
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Brands
Similar projects
editSimilar companies services
editCommon vocabulary
edit- Open Data
- Global Trade Item Number (GTIN) https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Trade_Item_Number
- Consumer Packaged Goods (CPG) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cpg.asp
- Harmonized System (HS Code) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonized_System
Domain names
editobjects.wikipedia.org
Discussion
edit- Some discussion at Wikimedia mailing list (archives) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-June/thread.html#84587
- No response here: Wikimedia forum: Wikimedia Forum/Archives/2016-07#WikiObject project propousal
- Early discussion here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects#Discussion
- Discussion at Proposal for Wikimedia movement 2017: Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017/Cycle 1#WikiObjects: Wikipedia for Objects - Open Product Data
Demos
editFor quick example see links in "Use Cases and Examples" section above.
For a demo/showcase website:
A demo/showcase website could be developed using an open source content management system with a good and flexible api, like Drupal. This site will get wikidata product info using wikidara query service https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_access and will show results in a user-friendly interface.
Roadmap proposal
edit- Look for people/communities interested to join forces.
- If you are interested write it on "People interested" section.
- If you are not sure, take a look to "Use Cases and Examples" section.
- If you think that more people or organizarion could be interested on this, please share with them this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiObject.
- Contributing creating wikidata items for small sets of products.
- For example, this page in Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects lists open source hardware projects. It could be cool got the same but with the corresponding open source hardware products. At the very beginning, using wikidata infrestructure, objects would only have common info like "name", " image", "manufacturer", "related links" (datasheets?), GTIN, and existing propierties. First use cases, like previous, should be lists of objects by categories (open source hardware products category).
- Step by step new fields (properties) could be added.
- One of most important property for product data, GTIN, have been accepted by wikidata community https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Global_Trade_Information_Number_(GTIN)
- Other are under discussion like "Input Current (A)"
- A list of useful properties is in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Objects#Useful_Properties Enlarge it!
- Create demo/showcase website to demonstrate project potencial and benefits for all world and people. This demo website would get all data from wikidata and exposed it on a more user-friendly interface. This website could be developed using an open source content management system with a good and flexible api, like Drupal. Even more, the code of this website could be opensourced to allow other people have their own custom platform for their specific use cases.
- In a long-term in order to explote all the possibilities of this project more complex fields and relations would have to be managed, to be able to query like for example "fridges with energy class A+++ and width less than 80 cm".
- Get Support / Funding for Wikimedia: In my humble opinion, problem with Wikipedia funding It's that most part of its users don't see culture as a need (sorry for that, I am a sporadic donor to Wikipedia too). In Wikiobject case I think it could rather be different. If part of companies business lies on this project, companies will be very inclined to donate to improve performance, usability, etc..similar to what happens in Linux. Where came this need from? Data needed for some software to run, product visibility, costumer info requests, etc. ... , no advertisement needed, It could be a need and standart. I trully believe that world need something like this, and the correct people to do it, to warranty openness and independence, are you?
Proposed by
editContributing / Collaboration
editFirst of all, thank you. You can:
- Spread the word : Share the link to this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiObject. Tell people/organizations you think may be interested.
- Create object/item: See tutorial the quick tutorial here WikiObject#Create object/item quick tutorial
- Add new existing related properties to the list: WikiObject#Useful Properties
- Complete a set of products in wikidata like the products corresponding to this open source hardware projects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects
- Make suggestions, comments, constructive criticism, ...
- Drop me a line at User talk:Qupro
People interested
edit- Strong support Qupro (talk) 08:20, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Pauljmackay (talk) 19:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- maxlath (talk) 18:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Ostschweizer (talk) 09:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --Scoid (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC) Bringing production sites of specific goods closer to their consumers helps the planet to save transport routes. An in-depth database for a detailed description of all objects would give an enormous boost to the possibilities of recycling. The project would open Wikimedia to a new audience interested in technology and would certainly receive support from both manufacturers and interested states interested in recycling to meet their climate goals.
- Strong support The idea is quite fascinating, and it's everything that the future needs to have. What more can i do than support such a project? (this project has quite a resemblance to wikidata) Arep Ticous 17:58, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Why not? We need an add-on to Wikidata. Arthurfan828 (talk) 01:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- --Kitabc12345 (talk) 05:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Strong support I found it very useful. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 04:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Strong support for adding objects/products and their properties to Wikidata. I'm doubtful about creating a new, separate wiki, "a wikipedia about objects". It seems like this is a great fit for Wikidata. Ehn (talk) 06:30, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Strong support -- Monirec (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Tmv (talk) 12:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Strong support I would definitely love to see a user defined structured database of products. This would be a very valuable addition to wikipedia, and there are lots of cases where it would be useful. Today, the information regarding a product exists on internet but is scattered over lots of incomplete or erroneous databases; as a result looking for information on a product can be tedious. Having a centralized one would definitely help, and would make a valuable use of internet. Like others, I think that wikidata has all the richness and expressiveness this database requires, but I see one big limitation: such database should be able to store at least photos of the products to unambiguously identify them (old products don't all have gtin), and I'm pretty sure that these photos wouldn't be allowed in wikimedia creative commons. Grafffy (talk) 09:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Strong support Rtnf (talk) 04:54, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Strong support This will be more better than usinf Wikidata for stuff like this! TylerMagee (talk) 08:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
People opposed
edit- Oppose This looks and sounds very similar to Wikidata. AnotherEditor144 t - c 13:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think this project is like Wikipedia, it would describe objects in a text style, and just like Wikipedia, can use Wikidata structured data. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 01:32, 28 April 2022 (UTC)