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Where else to re-propose restricting new users from interwiki-uploading?

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Besides enwiki and arwiki, where else can I re-propose? I attempted a Community Wish, which was then "archived"... or rather declined by the WMF as policy-related. The Commons community has favored restricting newest (or non-confirmed) users from crosswiki-uploading files into Commons. So have arwiki and enwiki. Shall I re-propose at dewiki, Meta's RFC, or where else? George Ho (talk) 16:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think that a request for comment is the best way to go. Having to notify each community individually would be time consuming. I am willing to start a RfC if you agree. This will require a massmessage to every prominent page on every wiki, so that the wider community can share their thoughts here. ToadetteEdit (talk) 16:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@ToadetteEdit: Please feel free to go ahead and start the RFC then. George Ho (talk) 09:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Where is the decline? How is this not solely a commonswiki issue? Isn't that the only project impacted? — xaosflux Talk 21:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
phab:T370598 is still open. This seems to simply be a commonswiki request of Don't let users upload files to our project using certain methods unless they meet certain criteria, correct? As they have already decided that via community discussion, where is the place that WMF staff has told them their request will be refused? (link please). — xaosflux Talk 22:20, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
I suspect by "refused" George Ho simply means nobody has gotten around to doing it. * Pppery * it has begun 00:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
It also sounds like this isn't an existing configuration setting to just be toggled, and no one has volunteered to write patches to support it. Are we missing something here @George Ho? — xaosflux Talk 05:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Xaosflux and Pppery: Link to the refusal... unless it's not a "refusal"?: Community Wishlist/Wishes/Disallow or restrict non-confirmed users from cross-wiki uploading files to Commons. George Ho (talk) 09:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well lets go right to the source: @JWheeler-WMF: is this concept something that the foundation would block for deployment on WMF servers without additional specific actions from communities, if so what? If this is simply a matter of not spending paid developer effort, I'm assuming that wouldn't prevent volunteer effort (along with the thousand and thousands of other backlogged phabricator feature requests). — xaosflux Talk 12:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Comment Hi everyone, I opened a discussion since August 25 on arwiki, Most of the discussion participants agree to restrict non-(auto)confirmed users from uploading files to Commons. Gerges (Talk) 11:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

I agree that cross-wiki uploads are a problem, but I don't think autoconfirmed status is enough. About two years ago I tracked certain cross-wiki uploads for four months, and what I found was that the Upload dialog is used mostly by inexperienced users. Almost half of the circa 250 images were deleted, and there are still many that should be checked. The WMF study confirms what I learned from my data. Editors who upload images straight from the editing window have no understanding of copyright in Wikimedia setting, yet they're "allowed" to upload images with just a couple of clicks. That hurts the copyright holders, the volunteers who clean up the mess, and also the uploaders who get discouraged when their images are deleted, sometimes without them even realizing it. From page 22 in the study, a comment from one participant: "I don't need to know what CC A-SA 4.0 is. I trust Wikipedia to do the right thing." Yikes. Each wiki should be able to decide the userright threshold for cross-wiki uploading in their wiki. -kyykaarme (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, but global restrictions against non-(auto)confirmed users are the best way forward for all wikis.

Each wiki should be able to decide the userright threshold for cross-wiki uploading in their wiki.

We can't just await every community's decision on how to resolve this, can we? They can individually decide how to set the boundaries between autoconfirmed and extended-confirmed statuses, but every wiki (if not almost) seems reluctant to challenge/oppose proposed restrictions against non-confirmed users. George Ho (talk) 20:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
The blocking is not the problem every Commons admin can simply set the current AbuseFilter they are already blocking some uploads to block all uploads from users without the required rights. The problem is that if we do this this way people still see the dialog and get an error message at the end of the process. We need to hide the tool or mark it as unavailable for users without the required rights on Commons. GPSLeo (talk) 19:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

2024 – Top pageviews statistics

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The top for en.wikipedia.org (unfiltered list from dump files) is:

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                29368966 Kamala_Harris
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                24738175 Indian_Premier_League
                22415352 Deadpool_&_Wolverine
                20808010 Portal:Current_events
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                15894834 XXX_(2002_film)
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More infos and another wikis: https://archive.org/details/2024-top_2k_user_pageviews Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 08:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)Reply