Tomwsulcer
Joined 16 September 2009
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Tomwsulcer in topic Your proposal about better readership statistics
Your proposal about better readership statistics edit
I have replied to your proposal, and hopefully gave a good explanation as to why we are unable to work on it. It is now archived at 2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Archive/Better readership statistics, where further discussion is more than welcomed. If you are unsatisfied with my reply, the Analytics team hopefully can help you more. Thanks for participating in the survey, and look forward to anymore proposals you may have :) MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 01:41, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding; I responded to your response. I continue to hope that better readership statistics are possible, and that they would help our encyclopedia by motivating contributors. If you wish to respond, I more actively monitor my Tomwsulcer Wikipedia user page--Tomwsulcer (talk) 10:52, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal (WMF): I am disappointed to see that the 2017 community wish-list is being censored by the wikimedia foundation (I think?). I have been aware of the privacy issues surrounding google-do-no-evil-analytics (GA) for a long time. I know that it was(is?) widely used to glean private information from unsuspecting visitors who are not informed they are being spied upon when visiting websites that employ GA. However, I do not see this as an excuse to limit discussion on Meta-wiki on the merits/disadvantages of providing statistics to wikipedia editors who work for nothing save the hope that they can contribute to the welfare of humankind. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2017 (UTC), an avid user of View statistics Please ping me
- @Ottawahitech: Yes I think WMF is aware of the request and are trying their best; there are constraints upon them, technical as well as legal, that I am not aware of, so I think the best that is possible at this point is to wait and see what happens, if anything. I don't think it's an issue of censorship, rather one of pragmatic concerns.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, rest assured there is no censorship involved with the survey! The survey is meant to gather community input on what the Community Tech team should work on. Exposing these detailed analytics is more for the Legal department and the Analytics team. I don't think there's any development involved that we could help with. However as I said in your proposal, it might be worthwhile to keep the proposal open during the voting phase just to get broader input on the subject. I'm going to talk to my team about it today and let you know. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Following up as promised: First, I just realized I confused Ottawahitech with you Tomwsulcer... sorry! Anyhoo, I spoke with my team and we've decided it doesn't make much sense to re-add this proposal, because we would ultimately have to remove it anyway since we cannot help implement it. I did poke a colleague on the Analytics who commented, as you saw. He had some good news that some of these wishes are on their radar, so glad to heart that! :) Hope this is satisfactory for now, and look forward to seeing any other proposals either of you may have. Regards, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 00:31, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey thanks for responding, and also thanks for all you do at the WMF. Best regards.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Following up as promised: First, I just realized I confused Ottawahitech with you Tomwsulcer... sorry! Anyhoo, I spoke with my team and we've decided it doesn't make much sense to re-add this proposal, because we would ultimately have to remove it anyway since we cannot help implement it. I did poke a colleague on the Analytics who commented, as you saw. He had some good news that some of these wishes are on their radar, so glad to heart that! :) Hope this is satisfactory for now, and look forward to seeing any other proposals either of you may have. Regards, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 00:31, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, rest assured there is no censorship involved with the survey! The survey is meant to gather community input on what the Community Tech team should work on. Exposing these detailed analytics is more for the Legal department and the Analytics team. I don't think there's any development involved that we could help with. However as I said in your proposal, it might be worthwhile to keep the proposal open during the voting phase just to get broader input on the subject. I'm going to talk to my team about it today and let you know. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2017 (UTC)