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Growth team updates #10
Welcome to the tenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
General news
- Growth team features are now fully deployed in Arabic Wikipedia and Basque Wikipedia (along with Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias). If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible. Then, go through the checklist to start the process of configuring the features.
- We have deployed features that help newcomers find their newcomer homepage. These features were successful, and more than doubled the number of newcomers who find their homepage. In Czech Wikipedia, 72% of newcomers visit their homepage and in Korean Wikipedia, 49% of newcomers visit their homepage.
- You can now join the Growth discussion space on the Wikimedia Space. This space has been created during Wikimania, to coordinate initiatives around welcoming newcomers. Please come and say hello!
Growth at Wikimania
- Several members of the Growth team attended Wikimania in Stockholm. We helped organize a conference track around Community Growth, presented about our team's work, and had many conversations with community members from around the world.
- Here are the most important links:
- These are some of our topline notes:
- Alignment on newcomer retention: It seems like Wikimania attendees generally believe that newcomer retention is an important problem.
- Connecting offline to online: Enthusiasm for ideas that connect our features better to offline events, such as making homepage mentors correspond to offline mentors.
- Mentor dashboard: Experienced users requested a dashboard with which they could monitor newcomers who may need help.
Newcomer tasks -- feedback needed!
- The Growth team's main project right now is newcomer tasks, which will suggest easy edits for newcomers. It will be built as a new module for the newcomer homepage.
- We hope that this project will help newcomers build their skills before attempting more difficult edits, such as creating new articles or adding images.
- These are the three main challenges we've been working on:
- Where to find the tasks? After considering many different sources for tasks, we've decided to start by using maintenance templates, which are applied by editors on most wikis, and including tasks like copy editing, adding links, and adding references.
- How to match to interests? Research shows that users are more likely to work on articles that are related to their interests. We are currently prototyping methods to ask newcomers their interests and then find articles that match.
- How to guide the newcomer? Once a newcomer has selected a recommended article, they will need guidance on how to complete the edit. We have decided to use the help panel to provide that guidance while the newcomer edits.
- We are currently engineering on this feature, and we recently published notes from user tests that give mostly positive feedback.
- You can explore the design for newcomer tasks in these interactive mockups. We hope to hear from you about your thoughts on the project talk page. Do you think this could be helpful for newcomers? What are we missing?
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18:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Dutch wiki
Hi MarcoAurelio, if you're still online, the IP is spamming on nl.wiki as 159.146.18.173. I've already requested for a global range block on SRG. Hope you can help :) 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 12:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Done thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:04, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The abuse filter function now has a faster parser. This is to shorten the waiting time when you save an edit. [1]
Problems
- There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [2]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 October. It will be on all wikis from 10 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Community Wishlist Survey has a new format. It will focus on wikis that typically get less support. It will probably go back to the normal format next year. It is not decided exactly how it will work this year. You can leave feedback.
- The URL of the Wikimedia wiki main pages could be changed. This is because the current URLs cause several problems. For example
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Pagewould behttps://www.wikidata.org/instead. You can tell the developers if this would cause problems for your wiki. - There is a new technical community newsletter. You can read more about the work of Wikimedia's technical community. Subscribe to get the information in the future.
- Outreachy is an internship program for groups who are underrepresented in free and open-source software. There are seven Wikimedia projects about coding, documentation and quality assurance in the next round. Persons who fit the criteria can apply. The last day to apply is 5 November.
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15:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
hello
thanks for blocking that user..please hide all of his edits on my page because of saying very very bad Profanity and bothered me..thanks a lot--Mojtaba2361 (talk) 21:57, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. Deleted, recreated and protected for 3 months. Hope that this helps. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:01, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- thank you mr marco..i didn't know what should i do..he said many bad things to me and my family and i didn't answer him and only could empty the page..--Mojtaba2361 (talk) 22:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hello. I am sad to hear the vandal did insulted you and your loved ones. In those cases, ignoring the vandal and seeking administrator assistance is the best thing to do in my opinion. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:14, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- thank you mr marco..i didn't know what should i do..he said many bad things to me and my family and i didn't answer him and only could empty the page..--Mojtaba2361 (talk) 22:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi! I'm seen, that You was restored default value at the 04.12.2018 with comment "rv. until phab:T205908 is fixed". And then bot was deleted this message at the 02.01.2019. I can’t view at the Fabricator what task this is - I don't have enough rights. This is fixed currently? --Kaganer (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Kaganer, I've subscribed you to the ticket. Do you see it now? --Base (talk) 20:19, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Base. As you both can see, it is still not resolved :-( —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Ok. But then we should be migrate into "Commons way" for our Mainpage? In the Commons, by clicking on the project logo we go to localized version of Mainpage (with localized name), what a relevace to our interface language. I am don't remember, where this setting is. --Kaganer (talk) 22:45, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Base. As you both can see, it is still not resolved :-( —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use more advanced editing tools on the mobile web. You can turn them on and off in your preferences in the mobile version. [3]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 October. It will be on all wikis from 17 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are no longer supported. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They will not get security support. You can't read Wikimedia wikis in Internet Explorer on Windows XP or Windows versions that are older than Windows XP. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them made the wikis less secure for everyone else. [4]
- In the future section headings might have a share link. This is to make it easier to link to the section. You can read more and discuss.
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23:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
hi.wikimedia
hi.wikimedia.org isn't connected with CentralAuth, Can you fix? -- CptViraj (📧) 11:31, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- @CptViraj: It has been set up as a fishbowl wiki [5], so is not part of the standard login/SUL, and as such not part of CentralAuth. Resolution for such issues is through phabricator: and out of control of all but the developers. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:53, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- What Billinghurst said. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:29, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Uff, I didn't know that. Thanks both! -- CptViraj (📧) 12:35, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- What Billinghurst said. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:29, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
This user has resumed harassing me at Wikinews after the 31 hour block ended. Please reblock. Thanks! Ohnoitsjamie (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie. Sorry, that caught me while sleeping. I see Matiia handled the issue. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Beefing up character base for ccnorm
Looking at Special:AbuseFilter/examine/14287001 and remembering phab:T27619. If we start to get more spam and vandalism utilising this approach, I am wondering what scope their may be to building a better/extended list to mw:Extension:AntiSpoof/Equivalence sets. Also whether you know if there is a UTF equivalence list that we could leverage if we went to this sort of step.
@Platonides: If you have any wisdom or insightful to add, I would appreciate your comments. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:11, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Also noting that we have other shite like Special:AbuseFilter/examine/log/663900 for which I now have a specific filter, though is just butt ugly when I am just fumbling around with no knowledge of charsets, nor particular interest. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure equivset would help. It prevents confusable characters, not different characters. I'd say we prohibit characters not used by any supported languages by MediaWiki. But that'd not be popular (you know, customising your signature is more important, etc. <irony>). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, well after today's spambots, yet again and with no change in approach over the past years, and … <shrug> Volunteerism … used, abused, spat out the end. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:40, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure equivset would help. It prevents confusable characters, not different characters. I'd say we prohibit characters not used by any supported languages by MediaWiki. But that'd not be popular (you know, customising your signature is more important, etc. <irony>). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The API sandbox and help pages now show more clearly when API modules are marked as
internal. API modules marked as internal were probably internal before. It was easier to miss. You should look for non-internal alternatives. [6]
Problems
- There is a translation tool we use on wikis with more than one language. For a few days it did not create pages for new languages when someone translated a page. The languages did not show in the language bar. This has been fixed. [7]
- The history and diffs can show wrong content. This is because of a cache problem. It will soon be fixed. [8]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 October. It will be on all wikis from 24 October (calendar).
- Reference Previews will be a beta feature on all Wikipedias and some Wikivoyages. It shows you a preview of the footnote when you hover over or click on the number. It has been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 October. See how to join.
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14:36, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
- Mobile users now have a specific design for their Watchlist. [9][10]
- You can share feedback and ideas on the Desktop Improvements project. The goal is to make the interface easier to use for readers and editors without removing any functionality. The Foundation's Readers Web team will work on this over the next two years.
- OOUI now allows using
px(pixels) instead ofem(em) for some specific cases. [11][12]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 October. It will be on all wikis from 31 October (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- There will be no software changes from 19 December to 2 January. The first MediaWiki version next year will come the week of 6 January. [13]
- Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015, this information was moved from global variables named
wg*tomw.config. The old global variables will be removed later this year. You can know more about it and tell the developers if you want to try this out on your wiki first.
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16:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
The Signpost: 31 October 2019
- In the media: How to use or abuse Wikipedia for fun or profit
- Special report: “Catch and Kill” on Wikipedia: Paid editing and the suppression of material on alleged sexual abuse
- Interview: Carl Miller on Wikipedia Wars
- Community view: Observations from the mainland
- Arbitration report: October actions
- Gallery: Wiki Loves Broadcast
- Recent research: Research at Wikimania 2019: More communication doesn't make editors more productive; Tor users doing good work; harmful content rare on English Wikipedia
- News from the WMF: Welcome to Wikipedia! Here's what we're doing to help you stick around
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?