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Prizes

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Hello. Will prizes be similar like the previous year? --Artificial123 (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Artificial123! We will update the prizes page today during the day. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 13:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi Eric Luth (WMSE), the page of Prizes indicates in a part: "The prizes will be announced as soon as possible.", could you check this? --Elisardojm (talk) 23:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Elisardojm! The meaning of the phrase is that the final result will be announced as soon as possible. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:16, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Disclamer

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Eric Luth (WMSE) I think it wold be usefull to add a disclamer about local policies on recievieng material prises from abroad that depends of country where winner is from. For example, in Russia you can be claimed as "foreign agent" with very harsh consequences. Красныйwanna talk? 11:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Красный: Thanks for informing! I think this is a very important thing to consider. I would be happy to adjust the wording in a way that would be safe for all participants. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 12:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

A question

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Hello, i want to ask about this point (Creating a new article on Bruna Moura in Swedish: 3,000 bytes, with three sources and internal links = 1 + 1 = 2p.). if i added more than 3,000 bytes, like 6,000. so it should be 1*2= 2p for size or not? -- تالا (talk) 15:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi تالا! Adding above 2,000 bytes yield 1 point, no matter how many bytes are added. I hope that makes it clearer! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 17:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

English bonus list finished!

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Hello all,

Happy to announce that with the completion of en:Aïda Yazbeck, every bonus article suggested by the OHCHR have been created on the English Wikipedia! Just wanted to share that good news with everyone and also thank the organizers of this project; it seems to be off to a fantastic start this year!

Best wishes, Fritzmann2002 (talk) 17:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wow! Amazing! A really impressive effort by you, Anon423 and all others. Well done! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Spanish and Galician bonus lists finished (with the last added article, Hannah Forster, too!). --Elisardojm (talk) 11:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Wonderful news, Elisardojm! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 14:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Fritzmann2002, Anon423, and Elisardojm: If you are interested in more names, there is now an additional list of activists within sexual rights and health provided from UNFPA! :) It can be found here! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
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I was wondering if for the purposes of scoring (seen here at WikiGap Challenge/Participants) articles related to women are counted. The text on the challenge main page, WikiGap Challenge, mentions "articles related to women", though the scoring explanation on /Participants only mentions biographies.

Also, the WikiGapFinder is not working, at least when I visited it just now.--Anon423 (talk) 18:40, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Thanks for noticing about the WikiGapFinder. I will check it up with the developers.
Articles related to women are accepted, but biographies are in focus. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:19, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
It's working now! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 18:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Some doubts

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Hello Eric Luth (WMSE)! I have some doubts because I am experiencing this for the first time.

  1. Does it need submission like other contests in fountain page?
  2. Does women related articles include goddesses, divine and mythical women?
  3. What is meant by "bonus article"?
  4. If an article is a candidate for another contest, can it be also a part of this contest if created/expanded/developed within the said time (8th March - 8th May)?
  5. Is the timing really 8th March - 8th May (2 months according to the first heading of the WikiGap Challenge/Background) or 8th March - 8th April (1 month according to the last paragraph of the WikiGap Challenge/Background)?
  6. Does the contest need local organizers, local juries for respective language wikis?
  7. I have two home wikis, Simple English Wikipedia (simple) and Meitei Wikipedia (mni). I signed highlighting both in WikiGap Challenge/Participants. Is it ok?
  8. Is this event related to Feminism and Folklore 2022? Or, are the two events independent from each other?

Haoreima (talk) 04:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Haoreima! Thanks for reaching out. I'll try and reply to all your questions below:
  1. No, it is enough to only list the entries on the participants page!
  2. That's a good question that we haven't had before. I'd say yes.
  3. Bonus articles are articles that are nominated and proposed because they fill critical gaps. They will be listed on the "list" page, linked to from the sidebar.
  4. Yes, that is fine.
  5. Thanks for noticing that there are different dates! The correct timing is 8th March-8th May. We decided to prolong it, because of the many difficulties the world is currently encountering.
  6. No, it doesn't. You can still write in any language you wish.
  7. Yes, it is ok to participant in two languages.
  8. This is independent from Feminism and Folklore 2022, but of course the two challenges share the same objectives.

I hope this answers to your questions! Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 09:18, 7 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Article size

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Is article's size taken in consider when counting points by (organisers)? I mean an article with 2000 - 3000 bytes isn't like an article with 4000 bytes and above. Thank you.--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Amr F.Nagy! This year, we don't take size into consideration as long as the edit has over 2000 bytes. Last year, we played with a quality criteria and the scoring has also changed a bit over the years. But this year, we just kept the scoring very simple. We would gladly get your input on how to create a score system that is not overly complicated but would make the competition even better! Do you have any thoughts on this for us to consider for next year's WikiGap Challenge? Best, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 13:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE), I understand your intention for a simple scoring system, but the effort to write a 12,000-byte article (for example) isn't the same as the effort to write a 2,000-byte article (taking into account the quality standards), but as long as it is the same, the participant may commit to creating/translating a 2000-byte article only. I see that by not counting the size, this (may) be a motivation to write incomplete articles as long as only 2000 bytes are required for one single article, especially if it's translated from the original. A participant who writes an article with the size of 2000 bytes may not know that the infoboxes, discographies, filmographies.. etc are part of this size and later he/she may be surprised after excluding the article because it is less than the required size. And by the way the number of bonus articles is very limited. Best of luck and thank you.--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 17:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Receiving the prizes of 2022

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Haoreima, Андрій Гриценко, Tuga1143, Krutyvuss, Дми88, Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi, Culamar, Armineaghayan, Agus Damanik, Hello everybody, It's been nearly three months since the contest results were announced in early June. I'd like to know if any of you have received anything since then or were contacted by the organizers again after June. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 23:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello Amr. I have been sending them message and getting a reply. But, there is no continuation about the gift that i will received cause there is no further messages Agus Damanik (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Amr F.Nagy, I know nothing about it... do I have to send an email to someone? How can I help to initiate the process regarding the prize? Kind regards, Tuga1143 (talk) 00:06, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Amr F.Nagy They told me that the item will reach on August 22. But as of now, it's not. I told them about it. As of now, there's no reply. --Haoreima (talk) 00:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Amr F.Nagy Same case with me too. I didn't receive anything yet. Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi (talk) 01:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello! I contacted with organizers, I sent to them my full name and address, and after this I have no replies and dont't recieve gift. Culamar (talk) 12:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello. The organizers did not contact me. Got nothing. --Krutyvuss (talk) 03:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Amr F.Nagy No, I didn't get anything. The organizers have already contacted. I asked if I could provide a shipping address without an email (I don't have one). However, I did not receive an answer. Дми88 (talk) 09:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Haoreima, Tuga1143, Krutyvuss, Дми88, Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi, Agus Damanik, Thank you all for your replies. I think the majority, if not all of us, have gotten nothing yet and some haven't been contacted by the organizers at all. I thought to mention you to the contest's discussion page, so that the organizers can answer all inquiries at once and to know about the progress of the prizes shipment and delivery process.--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello Amr F.Nagy, I have received my gifts last week ArmAg 11:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello Eric Luth (WMSE), Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) Sorry, but is there a logical explanation for the reason behind the long delay of delivering the shipments and not responding to some of the winners’ emails, or not contacting at them (as in the case of Tuga1143, Krutyvuss)? and Why didn't you announce the winner of extra prize till now?

Even after I wrote here on the discussion page four days ago, I expected one of the organizers to respond, but no one did. I hope to hear back from you soon. Best regards--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 21:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Dear @Amr F.Nagy and everyone,
I can only sincerely apologize for the delays in sending out the prizes. It was due to some miss-communication on our behalf, as well as over a month of holidays for everyone among the organizers. However, a couple of weeks ago, we sent out the prizes and they should be well on their way by now. As we sent them through mail without tracing, I cannot tell you where they are or when they will arrive.
Regarding the bonus prize, the winner is @Haoreima and they have been told so. We will update the results page with this information as well.
Again, I sincerely apologize and promise to do better in the future.
Best regards, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 07:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
I dont understand... the only e-mails I have from this challenge are from 2021... Tuga1143 (talk) 08:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I have sent an email to you through the "Email this user" function but have not received a response. Would it be possible for you to send an email to josefine.hellroth.larsson(a)wikimedia.se for me to arrange the prize for you as well, @Tuga1143? Best, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 11:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

I have also emailed Krutyvuss and Дми88 but not received replies. Prizes have been sent to the other on the top 10 list. Best, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 11:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE). So you didn't get an answer? I replied that I do not have an email address. But you ignored it. And then it turns out that you sent prizes to the next person on the list. You probably really wanted to send those prizes to someone next on the list. I will not communicate with this person anymore. Дми88 (talk) 11:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi again, I'm so sorry that I have not received your reply! However your prize is not sent to anyone else! It is still here in the office and we will send it to you as soon as we can solve the email issues so I have your address. Update: I have received your address from a previous year from my colleague and your prize is now prepared to be posted the same as for the others. Regards, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE),

Thank you, I've received the shipment, however I had to pay 128 L.E (6.66 $ or 6.69 €) for customs fees. Unfortunately the certificate with the shipment came in really poor condition and almost torn off. Is it possible if you can send me a PDF copy of the certificate via gmail with the name (Amr Fathy Nagy) in bold line instead of user:Amr F.Nagy? Thanks a lot and best regards.--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 20:23, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'm glad to see it arrived, however I'm sad to hear about the state of the envelope and the fee. I have emailed you a digital copy of the diploma, hope it reaches you well! Best regards, Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 08:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello Ms Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE). Hope that you are fine. I just wanted to let you know that I have not received the parcel yet. Why is this happening? Can you send me the competition certificate with my name on it? Regards Mohammad Murtaza Zaidi (talk) 16:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I received gifts. Sincerely --Krutyvuss (talk) 14:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Information WikiGap Challenge 2023

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Hi all,

Apologies for our slow communication.

We are reshaping our collaboration with the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and thus also how we are coordinating the global WikiGap Campaign. Due to this, we will not have the capacity to organize the WikiGap Challenge this year, but will spend this year brainstorming and thinking about how we can innovate and improve the entire campaign for the future.

We would more than love to hear your thoughts on how we can do this in the best way.  Feel free to drop us an email at wikigap@wikimedia.se, and give your thoughts on what has worked with the WikiGap Challenge, what you would like to see improved, and if you have any further suggestions on how to strengthen the entire campaign for the future.

We hope for your understanding, and look forward to working with you all to bridging the gender gap in the future.

Best Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE) (talk) 15:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Josefine Hellroth Larsson (WMSE): thank you for the update. I'd suggest you update the main Meta page as well, as it currently gives an impression that WikiGap Challenge will happen in 2023. AntonProtsiuk (WMUA) (talk) 14:11, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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