Stewards/Elections 2015/Coordination/Banners
Nominations
edit- Current: Candidates for the 2014 steward elections are asked to submit their nominations by January 28. Nominate yourself, if you are eligible.
- I think we want to remove the year, which is easy "this year's steward elections" or "the steward elections" and we need to work on the Nominate yourself if you are eligible part as we've had multiple times in the past people who thought that this meant any sysop should apply. Maybe something like "You can now nominate yourself if you are eligible" or something. Snowolf How can I help? 20:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good. PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- I've put my preferred version here under proposed. Let's see if anybody has any opinions on this. Snowolf How can I help? 21:32, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Is January 28 the deadline every year? If not, that needs to be improved. I've added special:mylanguage to the proposed version below. --Glaisher (talk) 08:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, in short, no, but almost. I believe our January elections have used this deadline for years now, however there is nothing to stop a future discussion changing the date, especially if the process gets shortened (as in, if the question period at some point gets killed off, then the date is liable to change. There's also elections not held in January at all, like the second one in 2011 that was held in September. However, the annual elections from 2010 onwards have always had the nomination deadline on January 28. This might change in the future, but do we have any practical way of handling that? I mean, unlike the vote period, I think this is a solid enough number that we can go change them all if we really have to, but if there's a better solution, that's obviously great. Snowolf How can I help? 17:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- Is January 28 the deadline every year? If not, that needs to be improved. I've added special:mylanguage to the proposed version below. --Glaisher (talk) 08:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- I've put my preferred version here under proposed. Let's see if anybody has any opinions on this. Snowolf How can I help? 21:32, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good. PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- I think we want to remove the year, which is easy "this year's steward elections" or "the steward elections" and we need to work on the Nominate yourself if you are eligible part as we've had multiple times in the past people who thought that this meant any sysop should apply. Maybe something like "You can now nominate yourself if you are eligible" or something. Snowolf How can I help? 20:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Proposed: Candidates for the steward elections are asked to submit their nominations by January 28. You can now nominate yourself, if you are eligible.
- Comment comfortable to the change to the year being implicit, and if the date changes then we do have to update banners, and that will be a choice of that election committee. It is just a banner, not a policy. — billinghurst sDrewth
- Well, the date changing means manually updating every translate version, hence why there was a discussion about whether that is likely to happen in the future (in that case, we would be looking at an alternative solution for putting the date in without requiring manual updates to each version) or whether it's pretty safe to just hardcode it. As the date has not changed since 2010, I would say we're safe hardcoding it. Snowolf How can I help? 21:38, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Will surely safe us a lot of work in the next years. -Barras talk 00:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, the date changing means manually updating every translate version, hence why there was a discussion about whether that is likely to happen in the future (in that case, we would be looking at an alternative solution for putting the date in without requiring manual updates to each version) or whether it's pretty safe to just hardcode it. As the date has not changed since 2010, I would say we're safe hardcoding it. Snowolf How can I help? 21:38, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment comfortable to the change to the year being implicit, and if the date changes then we do have to update banners, and that will be a choice of that election committee. It is just a banner, not a policy. — billinghurst sDrewth
Done: The wording is now available for translation. Snowolf How can I help? 17:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Vote
edit- Current: The Wikimedia Foundation's 2014 steward election has started. Please vote.
- We need to remove the reference to the Foundation, which is an ancient relict of times when the Board had to approve results and the reference to the year. I'd go with
The steward elections have started. Please vote.
or we could go with this year's steward elections. I also recall there were discussion last year regarding whether we should use election or elections but do not remember the details. @PiRSquared17: Snowolf How can I help? 20:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)- Either of your proposed versions are fine. No comment on "election" vs "elections". PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- As the nominations one uses the plural form, and it seems more correct that way, I'd switch to elections. I think something like "You're invited to vote" might be nicer, but might make translations more difficult, thoughts? @Glaisher: @PiRSquared17: Snowolf How can I help? 21:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- It should be plural for consistency (cf. Stewards/Elections 2015, noms banner). Also is there a way to make us not change the link every year? Right now, it's ../Elections_2014 and we'd have to change that every year along with the links in the translation messages in both banners. --Glaisher (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- We can setup up a redirected and use that changing it year by year. In fact, there is already such a redirect, SE, but we can setup a dedicated one if you think it better not to rely on that. Snowolf How can I help? 17:17, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- This was discussed on IRC earlier today. I was just being silly. As usual, we will just have the link in the banner html, not the localizable messages. --Glaisher (talk) 15:17, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- So we're using Special:MyLanguage and no redirects, right? That sounds good to me. Snowolf How can I help? 18:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that works and is easy enough. We only have to change the link in the banner html apart from the timestamps in the javascript. --Glaisher (talk) 07:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- So we're using Special:MyLanguage and no redirects, right? That sounds good to me. Snowolf How can I help? 18:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- It should be plural for consistency (cf. Stewards/Elections 2015, noms banner). Also is there a way to make us not change the link every year? Right now, it's ../Elections_2014 and we'd have to change that every year along with the links in the translation messages in both banners. --Glaisher (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- As the nominations one uses the plural form, and it seems more correct that way, I'd switch to elections. I think something like "You're invited to vote" might be nicer, but might make translations more difficult, thoughts? @Glaisher: @PiRSquared17: Snowolf How can I help? 21:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Either of your proposed versions are fine. No comment on "election" vs "elections". PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- We need to remove the reference to the Foundation, which is an ancient relict of times when the Board had to approve results and the reference to the year. I'd go with
- Proposed: The steward elections have started. Please vote.
- Comment I agree on the removal of the word Foundation, though wonder why we drop the word Wikimedia. Without a qualifying word, the word steward lacks context. If we wish to have less context, then do we need to wikilink Steward to Stewards? — billinghurst sDrewth 20:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- No objections to changing it to
The Wikimedia steward elections have started. Please vote.
, if that is clearer. Snowolf How can I help? 21:40, 21 December 2014 (UTC)- I think the word steward in this context on our projects is pretty much self-explaining. I'd say that all people who are interessted to vote and have the most basic knowledge about the background work and meta stuff, will know about it. All other people will most likely be very new to the projects and so likely not even be allowed to vote. However, I also wouldn't mind the word Wikimedia, although I think it is not needed. -Barras talk 01:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- No objections to changing it to
- Comment I agree on the removal of the word Foundation, though wonder why we drop the word Wikimedia. Without a qualifying word, the word steward lacks context. If we wish to have less context, then do we need to wikilink Steward to Stewards? — billinghurst sDrewth 20:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done Created and now translatable. --Glaisher (talk) 08:57, 9 January 2015 (UTC)