Requests for new languages/Wikisource Ligurian

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikisource Ligurian
submitted verification final decision
Application-certificate.svg This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

--MF-W 13:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC) See bug T257672
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code lij (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Ligurian Language name in English
Language name Ligure Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36106 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Ligurian
  • native label (P1705) = Lengoa ligure
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language, definitely endangered language / Gallo-Italic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = lij
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 2,000,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikivivàgna "Wikisource" in your language
Project namespace Wikivivàgna usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Discuscioìn Wikivivàgna "Wikisource talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Europe/Rome "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces "Aotô" (Author), "Discuscioìn aotô" (Author talk), "Ìndice" (Index), "Discuscioìn ìndice" (Index talk), "Pàgina" (Page), "Discuscioìn pàgina" (Page talk), "Òpia" (Work), "Discuscioìn òpia" (Work talk) For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings On the Wikisource logo, should be written "Wikivivàgna" instead of "Wikisource" Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


ProposalEdit

Ligurian is a language spoken in the Liguria region of Italy (which includes the city of Genoa), in adjacent parts of France, and also in Monaco. The language had 500,000 native speakers as of 2002. There is a relatively large amount of Ligurian pages in Multilingual Wikisource (over 3000 pages in the Ligurian category), which I believe is enough content to consider creating a Ligurian subdomain. DraconicDark (talk) 00:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

The Ligurian language is also spoken on a small island close to Sardinia and in a town of Corsica. --Luensu1959 (talk) 09:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  • Support - G.Musso (talk) 15:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Support--Mizardellorsa (talk) 21:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Support --S4b1nuz E.656 (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support This is by far the biggest language on s:mul: and if the users there want to graduate, they have several thousand pages to get them started. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Support --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 22:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Well organized and maintained. Lots of activity and contents. --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Not in favor. I explained my reasons below. I have been the main contributor in the past few months. We need native speakers to contribute and we do not have them now.--Luensu1959 (talk) 21:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed approvalEdit

Hello! This project is very likely going to be approved soon, cf. Talk:Language_committee#Notification_about_proposed_approval_of_Ligurian_Wikisource. In the meantime, please check the data in the template at the top of this page and adjust/complete it if necessary, so that we can request the creation of the wiki when the waiting-period is over. Thanks and best regards, --MF-W 12:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: Hi, i adjusted the template on the top. Hope that Ligurian Wikisource will be created as fast as possible. Cheers --S4b1nuz ᴇ.656(SMS) 18:15, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Request is now on phabricator. --MF-W 13:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: @S4b1nuz E.656: Thanks for caring for us, but there is a big problem here at the moment. I firmly oppose the creation of the Ligurian Wikisource in this moment in time as we have no native speakers who can work on the new interface. Of course, being one of the two persons (users) who have most contributed to Wiki source in (Genoese) Ligurian, I would be in favor of an independent Ligurian Wiki Source, but the time is not ripe yet. I urge to stop the process until we are able to solve the issue of translating the whole interface. The other possibility would be to maintain the interface in English as this keeps the Ligurian language distinct from Italian and gives it a touch of internationalism: more people from around the world would be able to note us. Please give feedback to my objection asap. Luensu1959 --87.6.233.34 15:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
@Luensu1959: As I have said before, translating the entire interface is not required. All components of the interface that are necessary for approval have been translated. All of the requirements for approval have been met; otherwise, the language committee would not have approved the request. DraconicDark (talk) 22:53, 12 July 2020 (UTC)