Requests for new languages/Wikinews Dusun

Dusun Wikibooks

submitted	verification	final decision

	This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval. A committee member provided the following comment: Project is eligible. Please contribute at incubator:Wn/dtp. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 23:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	dtp (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Kadazan Dusun	Language name in English
Language name	Bo'os/Boros Kadazan Dusun	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q5317225 - item has currently the following values: English label: Kadazandusun native label (P1705): boros Kadazandusun instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language / Dusunic Wikimedia language code (P424): dtp writing system (P282): Latin script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 180,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links	Iso Dusun Sompomogunan	Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	dtp.wikinews.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name		"Wikinews" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikinews talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Kuala Lumpur	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

We need Wikinews in Kadazan Dusun language.

I oppose for now. The Dusun language don't even have a Wikipedia (current request). It seems that there's no interested community and the development project has little content. I do think that they should concentrate first in a Wikipedia --if it gets approved-- and then, when a sizable community and manpower is avalaible, they should request the creation of other sister projects. Rationale isn't convincing and does not provide any useful information nor demostrates a "need". -- Dferg ^{☎ talk} 16:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Low activity on beta Wikipedia, there's absolutely not a community that can grow up the project and Wikinews really needs daily contributes. --Gce (talk) 21:54, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose There is no single "Dusun" language, the ISO code [dtp] define it as "Kadazan Dusun": https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/dtp. My best recommendation is to rename the project if there are any contributors who want to develop these project, or simply cancel the proposal since there is no factual single entity of "Dusun language". (Dirk Gret (talk) 15:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC))[reply]

Comment There is no rule which states is mandatory to a language community to have a Wikipedia before being allowed to ask for another language edition of other sister projects. Maybe this decision of chosing Wikinews first instead of Wikipedia would be strange, but you should ask proposer(s) the reason behind their decision before opposing. --Zerabat (discusión) 01:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]