Meta:Requests for translation adminship/Felipe da Fonseca
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I am translating several pages of Metawiki about the Universal Code of Conduct and hope to continue to serve as a bridge between, on the one hand WMF and Meta, and on the other hand pt.wiki. For my translations see my contributions. Sometimes I need to mark pages for translation, and for this I need access to the administration tool (see: diff).
On my work at pt.wiki regarding this interaction between WMF, Meta and en.wiki, which needs constant translations, see: pt:Wikipédia:Esplanada/propostas/Local na esplanada reservado à assuntos da WMF (6mai2021), pt:Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral/Aproximando a metawiki das comunidades de base e estas entre si (3mai2021) e pt:Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral/Código Universal de Conduta (6mai2021).As a general project of approaching see: Wikimedia Forum#Closing the gap to and between the base communities --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 14:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Felipe da Fonseca: Have you read mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation administration? --Ameisenigel (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ameisenigel thanks for the recommendation. Yes, I just read it.--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 08:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Great, Support. --Ameisenigel (talk) 08:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ameisenigel thanks for the recommendation. Yes, I just read it.--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 08:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support Sounds like a good justification. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Are you aware of internationalization guidelines? Also, please prepare a page for translation and link it here: the syntax is pretty complex and a bad marking is hardly reversible, so we need to ensure translation admin well know syntax and recommandations. --Pols12 (talk) 13:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12, yes, now I am aware of it. I have prepared the following page: User:Felipe da Fonseca/test. It is probably not entirely correct and I had difficulty with the link preparation, if you can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks,--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 17:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are several issues in your segmentation:
- In most cases, you should not close a translate tag and open a new one just after; lets new lines make the job instead. (“General principles”) By the way note that the parser removes the full line when it only contains a translate tag. (“Tag placing”)
- For templates, you should only wrap content text inside translate tags, not the full template. (“Tag placing”)
- The tvar syntax has been recently updated: we should now use
content
instead ofcontent
. (“Variables”)
- Besides:
- You should add
{{#translation:}}
parser function after category name to allow each translation to be categorized in its own language category. (Meta guidelines, #Categorization) - You should not force right alignment for image thumbs: let’s the software well place them, they will be left-aligned in RTL languages. (undocumented)
- You should use as short as possible one-word tvar names, digits are often a good solution. (Meta guidelines, #Translation variable names)
- You should add
- -- Pols12 (talk) 18:02, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 I will make the revisions and get back to you. About item 1, however: although I have read it, the pages I used as examples close the tag, why? --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:09, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are unfortunately many pages which do not follow the recommendations, but this make them harder to edit for editors and may cause some issues.
- Also, some translation admins deliberately segment each sentence independantly. In this case, you are obliged to close the translate tag just before opening a new one. I don’t see a real interest for this kind of hard segmentation, but this is only my point of view. -- Pols12 (talk) 18:23, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 the corrections in User:Felipe da Fonseca/test have been made. I am not sure if the link tag is correct. --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Much better, thank you for following the advices. I have removed the hash sign (which uselessly complexify tvar name) and some useless translate tags (the segmentation issue we discussed).
- Support now. -- Pols12 (talk) 18:34, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 I saw it, thank you very much for the lessons. Is it possible to have this page marked for translation, so I can see the result in practice?--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Next time, you will be able to do it by yourself -- Pols12 (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 thanks, I just saw it. I wanted to see how the links and segmentation would look like: it is perfect. If you want you can remove the markup. --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Next time, you will be able to do it by yourself -- Pols12 (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 I saw it, thank you very much for the lessons. Is it possible to have this page marked for translation, so I can see the result in practice?--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 the corrections in User:Felipe da Fonseca/test have been made. I am not sure if the link tag is correct. --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pols12 I will make the revisions and get back to you. About item 1, however: although I have read it, the pages I used as examples close the tag, why? --Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 18:09, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are several issues in your segmentation:
- Pols12, yes, now I am aware of it. I have prepared the following page: User:Felipe da Fonseca/test. It is probably not entirely correct and I had difficulty with the link preparation, if you can help me I would appreciate it. Thanks,--Felipe da Fonseca (talk) 17:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support --Zabe (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Matiia (talk) 20:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)