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London Wikimedia Meetup Number 157

NOTE - This meetup will be virtual due to the Coronavirus pandemic

Date and time: Sunday 9 August 2020 13:00—18:00
(join at any time you can, no need to stay for the whole afternoon)

Location: Online
We will use Zoom video chat. the wub will host and send out invitations on the day via Wikimedia email to any users signed up below.

People of all ages and all Wikimedia projects are welcome. Complete newbies also welcome.

Although this meetup is a continuation of the regular "London" gatherings, going virtual means geography is no longer a constraint so do feel free to join from anywhere you may be!

Please also invite any London/UK Wikimedia people you know (or have had wiki dealings with) – spread the word!

Attending

Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and four tildes like this: *~~~~

the wub "?!" 20:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 22:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Joseph2302 (talk) 17:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Expect so, Johnbod (talk) 17:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WereSpielChequers (talk) 18:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Misha Wolf (talk) 14:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Serendipodous (talk) 18:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pi (talk) 07:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very likely ClemRutter (talk) 20:36, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Archana Mathur (talk)Archana mathur
♥Ainali ^talk_{contributions} 18:57, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Serial Number 54129 (talk) 18:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
--RexxS (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mccapra (talk) 02:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PamD (talk) 11:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mike Peel (talk) 06:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Zquid (talk) 12:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MER-C (talk) 11:01, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May be attending

Darren-M (talk) 08:56, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew D. (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
James F. (talk) 10:22, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kosboot (talk) 19:27, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PaleoGeekSquared (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unlikely, but if I can get some time! Lee Vilenski (talk) 07:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Balon Greyjoy (talk) 09:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As usual, ping me into the invite and I'll come if I can, depending what I'm doing on the day. – Amakuru (talk) 07:53, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Johannes Schade (talk) 04:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lajmmoore (talk) 07:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC) - hope to![reply]
Llew Mawr (talk) 08:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spinney Hill (talk) 13:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikieditor019 (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2020 (UTC) I may be busy.[reply]
Perciv (talk) 16:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Racking (talk) 17:17, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Might be there for part of it. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | enwiki} 08:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sparklism (talk) 08:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Femkemilene (talk) 09:05, 8 August 2020 (UTC) Maybe parts of it[reply]
Rodw (talk) 15:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ddemodDdemod (talk) 00:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

interested but not attending

Introductions

To provide some background, I went through the user pages of possible attendees and compiled some details of their location and a recent topic that they worked on in the English Wikipedia.
I've not tried this before so feel free to embellish or correct the entries.

For some other general talking points, the In the News section of the UK Wikipedians' notice board has also been updated.

While doing this, I noticed that Meta doesn't seem to support the Visual Editor. Am I missing something?

Andrew D. (talk) 11:01, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Andrew, this is a really cool idea! I added my location too. Was already thinking of running a poll during the meeting on locations, it looks like we've got an even wider range this time.

The Visual Editor doesn't seem to be visible by default on Meta, I'm not sure why. You can still hack your way into it by adding ?veaction=edit to the end of the URL. the wub "?!" 11:27, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted VE to help edit the table but now the main structure is done, the regular text editor is ok. I didn't link the entries, to keep it simple, but have linked mine now to show how it's done. Andrew D. (talk) 12:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

user	location	topic	short description
Ainali	Amsterdam	List of European countries by life expectancy	Longevity statistics
Amakuru	London	Rwandan Civil War	African conflict
Andrew Davidson	Ealing, London	St Trinnean's School	Progressive girls' school
Archana Mathur		The Wikipedia Library	Provision of sources
Balon Greyjoy		Big Mouth (TV series)	Animated comedy
Broichmore		Battle of the Slaak	Naval battle
ClemRutter		Hellesdon High School	Norfolk secondary
Darren-M	Manchester	Meghan, Duchess of Sussex	Actress and royal consort
Ddemod		Education in Barbados	Caribbean schooling
Dreamy Jazz		Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations	Internal policing
Femkemilene	Exeter	Global warming	Climate change
GhostInTheMachine	York	Smart meter	Online recorder of utility usage
Jdforrester		Alexis Carew series	Science fiction naval pastiche
Johannes Schade	Bangor	Viscounts Dillon	Irish aristocracy
Johnbod	London	À la poupée	Colour printing using balls of cloth
Joseph2302	London (originally Sussex)	~~Charrandas Persaud~~ (Women's) sport	~~Canadian-Guyanese lawyer and politician~~ Women's sportspeople
Kosboot	New York	Heinrich Schenker	Musical analyst
Lajmmoore	Yorkshire	Manana Chitishvili	Georgian poet
Lee Vilenski	England	2020 World Snooker Championship	Sporting event
Llew Mawr	Wales	2020 Russian constitutional referendum	All-Russian vote
Mccapra		Time and Eternity in Mid-Thirteenth-Century Thought	Philosophical history
MER-C		Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations	Internal policing
Mike Peel	Tenerife	Monument to Franco (Santa Cruz de Tenerife)	Public sculpture
Misha Wolf	London	ISO 4217	International standard for currency codes
PaleoGeekSquared	Cardiff	Ankylorhiza	Extinct genus of dolphin
PamD	Silverdale, Lancs	Virtual choir	Lockdown activity
Perciv		Margaret of Anjou	Queen of England
Pi		List of current members of the Kenyan National Assembly	African politicians
Racking		Graffiti	Street art
RexxS	West Midlands	Coronavirus disease 2019	Pandemic illness
Rodw	Cotswolds	Mary-Jess Leaverland	Singer
Serendipodous	London	Timeline of the far future	Scientific projections
Serial Number 54129		MV Rhosus	Infamous cargo ship
Sparklism		Ocean Colour Scene	Britpop band
Spinney Hill	East Midlands	Northampton	County town
The wub	London	Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge	Tudor building
WereSpielChequers	London	COVID-19 pandemic data	Navigational template
Wikieditor019		Guildford Grove Primary School	Junior school
Zquid	Stockholm	Paralympic sports	Competitive sport for the disabled

Topics discussed

Thanks to all who joined! I made a few (non-exhaustive) notes on topics discussed today, so attendees can refer back and non-attendees can get a flavour:

A not-so-short description of short descriptions
Siamosaurus and its Featured Article candidacy
List of Antarctic churches, Islam in the Arctic, and Religion in space
- Did you know: The Roman Catholic church considers the Moon part of the diocese of Orlando, since that is where its first explorers departed from?
The precise borders of "Europe"
Alt text. Made a phab task to add alt text to the WikiEditor insert file dialog - phab:T260006
Latin, Old English, and Middle English Wikipedias
- General disappointment that the Latin Wikipedia doesn't use roman numerals
Harry Potter in translation
Did you know: Ankh-Morpork is twinned with Wincanton?
Fictional universities
Freedom of panorama
Images of graffiti on Commons
Universal Code of Conduct
And the inevitable discussion of the pandemic

The plan is for the next meetup to be virtual again, on Sunday 13 September. Hope to see you there! the wub "?!" 21:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About the meetup

Location of The Penderel's Oak

London meetups are generally casual social events where we...

Drink coffee, beer, tea and some of us have Sunday brunch. Sunday roasts are no longer offered but they do a reasonable pizza now and have a range of other snacks and dishes.
Welcome guests from around the world and other groups which meet there
Chat about Wikimedia or any other topics
Experienced Wikimedians help out new editors and share experiences about anything from copyright to editing tools.

You can expect to meet some very keen Wikimedians; however, this is also an open invite for anyone interested in finding out more about Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects such as Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata, and Wikisource.

New and prospective editors are also very welcome.

The pub is quite quiet and family-friendly on a Sunday lunchtime, so younger Wikimedians will also feel welcome and safe. Alcohol consumption is not compulsory!

Disabled access

The pub has an accessible loo on the ground floor. There are some sections of the pub that are only accessible by steps, but we always meet in the main step free section, usually opposite the main doors.

Location: Penderel's Oak

The Penderel's Oak is a Wetherspoons pub in Holborn.
Address: 283-288 High Holborn, London, WC1V 7HP (OpenStreetMap) (Google Maps)

It's easy to find us – we're usually the crowd with several laptops on the large tables straight ahead of you when you enter the pub. If not, then look for a tabletop Wikimedia/Wikipedia poster and laptops with Wikipedia stickers on them. Wikimania t-shirts can also be a good clue.

Getting there

	Chancery Lane	0.2 miles (350 m)
	Holborn	0.2 miles (350 m)
	Farringdon	0.5 miles (800 m)
	Temple	0.5 miles (800 m)

The Penderel's Oak is between Holborn tube station and Chancery Lane tube station. Farringdon station and Temple tube station are not too far. The pub is also within walking distance of Waterloo railway station (1.3 miles; 2 km), St Pancras railway station (1.2 miles; 1.9 km) and Kings Cross.

Several bus routes also go directly to Holborn station; if travelling from Waterloo, it is quicker to travel by bus than by tube.

Bike hire (TfL scheme) is in Red Lion Street, just opposite the pub.

Visit the TfL Journey Planner for more information about your fastest route.

Back-up plan

In the rare event of a kitchen closure or another problem at the Penderel's Oak, the meetup will be relocated to the Shakespeare's Head – another Wetherspoons pub located nearby. To get there from the Penderel's Oak, when exiting onto the street turn left, then when walking past Holborn tube station turn left again down Kingsway, and after a short walk the pub will be found on the left-hand side.

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