CentralNotice/Request/Wiki Loves Folk 2019
Wiki Loves Folk 2019
edit- Rodelar (talk · contribs · page moves · block user · block log), primary contact (Requested at 15:06, 19 September 2019 (UTC))
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What countries will your campaign target?
Banner/Campaign Diet:
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What is the purpose of the campaign? How will you measure the success of the campaign?
editMetrics - Number of participants and uploaded images
What banner(s) will you use? What will be your landing page?
editLanding Page - https://www.wikilov.es/es/Wiki_Loves_Folk
Is this project grant funded? Please provide a link
editLink to grant -
Discussion
edit- @Rodelar: Please provide a link to where the target wiki(s) were notified of this CentralNotice request. Thanks. (I assume that since the target pages are in Spanish, this is intended to be for the Spanish wikis?) --Yair rand (talk) 17:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Yair rand: Do you mean I have to notify about this request on a specific wiki? --Rodelar (talk) 17:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Rodelar: Yes, as required by the guidelines. Notification and community consensus are required for CentralNotice use. --Yair rand (talk) 17:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Yair rand: While it´s a photographic contest, the main page is in Commons and the diffusion in previous years was done through the banner and social media, so no information in the village pump of Wikipedia or similar spaces. --Rodelar (talk) 18:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Rodelar: Well, there's still plenty of time before November to provide the relevant notifications and allow the community to decide on whether this campaign should run. --Yair rand (talk) 19:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Why should a project which is not target of the campaign should vote on a campaign? Eswiki is not Spain. Hence, I have never seen any such vote before on similar photo contest. The campaign looks fine to me. Best, —DerHexer (Talk) 19:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @DerHexer: Are any projects other than Spanish projects intended to be included? If so, I'd recommend changing the destination page to not be Spanish-only. If there are multiple targets, there can be multiple projects notified. Notification and consensus are requirements. --Yair rand (talk) 22:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- For returning events like Wiki Loves campaigns the CentralNotice administators never insisted on further notifications or consensus every year. Since I don't know of any opposite opinions from my fellows, the same will also have to apply to Wiki Loves Folk. Nevertheless, I agree that with the current proposed language settings, the landing page should also handle non-Spanish language visitors or should be limited to Spanish languages. —DerHexer (Talk) 23:47, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @DerHexer: Are any projects other than Spanish projects intended to be included? If so, I'd recommend changing the destination page to not be Spanish-only. If there are multiple targets, there can be multiple projects notified. Notification and consensus are requirements. --Yair rand (talk) 22:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Why should a project which is not target of the campaign should vote on a campaign? Eswiki is not Spain. Hence, I have never seen any such vote before on similar photo contest. The campaign looks fine to me. Best, —DerHexer (Talk) 19:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Rodelar: Well, there's still plenty of time before November to provide the relevant notifications and allow the community to decide on whether this campaign should run. --Yair rand (talk) 19:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Yair rand: While it´s a photographic contest, the main page is in Commons and the diffusion in previous years was done through the banner and social media, so no information in the village pump of Wikipedia or similar spaces. --Rodelar (talk) 18:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Rodelar: Yes, as required by the guidelines. Notification and community consensus are required for CentralNotice use. --Yair rand (talk) 17:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Yair rand: Do you mean I have to notify about this request on a specific wiki? --Rodelar (talk) 17:33, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
I want to put a bit of context in it. I understand that request for CentralNotice have higher requirements now, to not abuse of it. Wiki Loves Folk is a photo contest, like Wiki Loves Monuments and Wiki Loves Earth, but focused in festivals and festivities. This will be the 4th edition of the contest, with no opposition in last years, and we did not have any comment againts it in any language, and for me this is quite relevant. In Spain there are 8 projects in languages of the country, not only Spanish (an, ast, ca, es, eu, ext, gl and oc), but the target is people in Spain. Many people in Spain read Wikipedia in English or in other languages like French, or their languages for communities with a foreign heritage, like Romanian, Arabic, etc.
I don't understand what Yair rand means with Spanish-only, do you mean Spanish language or projects in languages of Spain? Many times, many people assume that one country = one language, and that's not true at all. This is true only for very few cases. As I said, the focus is all people based in the country, because the language they use is not the important thing, because they can have photos of the festivities and they can read wikipedia in Urdu for example. I don't imagine a banner in Germany or UK for Wiki Loves Monuments only in the languages from there, but in all projects. Here is the same. And this discussion makes me think. Who has to reach the consensus in one project for a country? the whole community or the community from that country only? I mean, in Russian Wikipedia for example, but the banner is shown only in Spain, and readers from Russia do not see the banner, do editors from outside of Spain in that language discuss that or only who is "affected" by the CentralNotice? This is a wider question that applies for all requests. Thanks. Millars (talk) 10:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Central Notice admin comments
editApproved @Millars: Drafted banner at [1]. Please provide banner text for this year, so I can replace the placeholder. Thanks! --Martin Urbanec (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you @Martin Urbanec:. The banner text could be this: El concurso Wiki Loves Folk ha comenzado ¡Sube tus fotos de fiestas hasta el 30 de noviembre!. If we provide the translations, could the message appear in several languages?. --Rodelar (talk) 09:03, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Rodelar: Sure, but in that case, I'd need English version to serve as the master for translations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:54, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Martin Urbanec: Yes, no problem. Here are the translations into several languages:
- [es] El concurso Wiki Loves Folk ha comenzado ¡Sube tus fotos de fiestas hasta el 30 de noviembre!
- [en] Wiki Loves Folk has started. Upload your photos of festivals until November 30th!
- [fr] Le concours Wiki Loves Folk est lancé. Téléchargez vos photos de fêtes jusqu'au 30 novembre!
- [pt] O concurso Wiki Loves Folk já começou. Envie suas fotos de festas até 30 de novembro!
- [it] Il concorso Wiki Loves Folk è iniziato. Carica le tue fotografie di feste fino al 30 novembre!
- [ca] El concurs Wiki Loves Folk ha començat. Puja les teves fotos de festes fins al 30 de novembre!
- [gl] O concurso de Wiki Loves Folk comezou. Carga as túas fotos de festas ata o 30 de novembro!.
- [eu] Wiki Loves Folk lehiaketa hasi da. Igo zure jaietako argazkiak azaroaren 30a baino lehen!
- [ast] Entamó'l concursu Wiki Loves Folk. ¡Xubi les tos semeyes de fiestes hasta'l 30 de payares!
- [an] O concurso Wiki Loves Folk ha prencipiau. Puya as tuyas fotos de fiestas dica o 30 de noviembre!
- @Martin Urbanec: Yes, no problem. Here are the translations into several languages:
- @Rodelar: Sure, but in that case, I'd need English version to serve as the master for translations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:54, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- --Rodelar (talk) 09:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done, banner is now translatable. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:54, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Martin Urbanec: Thank you! So, we only have to translate it into the other languages and will be ready, right? --Rodelar (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. I'll create a campaign soon, but that's merely a technical thing rather than something you need to care about. Also, you can translate the banner even after it will be displayed to users, just ping me each time so I can approve the translations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done Campaign created as [2] --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:01, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. I'll create a campaign soon, but that's merely a technical thing rather than something you need to care about. Also, you can translate the banner even after it will be displayed to users, just ping me each time so I can approve the translations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Martin Urbanec: Thank you! So, we only have to translate it into the other languages and will be ready, right? --Rodelar (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done, banner is now translatable. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:54, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- --Rodelar (talk) 09:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)