I have blocked your account for a month following your continued refusal to get the point on RfD, given your past conduct issues here and elsewhere. If you want to appeal, you may use Template:Unblock and another admin will review. – Ajraddatz (talk) 13:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ajraddatz is referring to this RfD [1]. Ajraddatz, are editors obliged to let falsehoods/distortions about ongoing war crimes stand uncontested? If not then there was no reason to block me. If so, I'd like to see it added to site policy. Were my arguments incorrect? If so then please do refute them. I hope they are wrong. "If you want to appeal [...]" In my experience, appeals are not generally taken seriously, at least not in any objective sense with respect to site policy. The whole appeal process is just part of the furniture, and since it's only a month I probably won't bother. I also notice that my counterpart in that dispute was not sanctioned. I do not ask you to sanction them, but to explain what they did correctly that I seem to be missing. AP295 (talk) 03:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Meanwhile, the RfD actually has gone off topic. Instead of reputably-sourced information about ongoing war crimes, editors are talking about right-wing/left-wing bias on wikipedia, Trump, Liberals, etc. The subject has shifted from Israel, Gaza and the correctness of the page in question to meaningless, immaterial drivel. The former was on-topic and very relevant, the latter not so much. Cui bono? AP295 (talk) 15:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply


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Request reason: As far as I can tell, Ajraddatz has blocked me because a discussion I was involved in discussion was allegedly off-topic. This is a dishonest claim, which is why they do not own up to it above, instead making the vague charge of "continued refusal to get the point on RfD".

They collapsed several discussions in the RfD (only some of which I was involved in), remarking that they were off-topic. My reply to this, which explains why my comments were/are directly relevant and cites official policy, went unanswered.[1][2] After that, they collapsed another discussion I was involved in and which was also on-topic, blocking me shortly thereafter. [3] The other editor in that discussion was not blocked (nor do I ask that they be), despite having made just as many comments. My comments cite reputable sources and are accurate to the best of my knowlege. They directly concern the correctness of the page in question and the truth/falsehood of relevant claims made by others. By any honest or reasonable interpretation they are on-topic. The discourse is also a morally and ethically serious one. Using the collapse template to hide relevant discussions (with the caption "off topic discussion") and handing out a block to only one participant is against official site policy (as I explained in the linked reply), and has a chilling effect on the rest of the discourse. I've done no harm except to some of the falsehoods put forward by others. That is a positive contribution, no? AP295 (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

An addendum: Ajraddatz wrote the following on one of the involved editor's talk pages: "The intent of the discussion is figuring out whether that page could be considered advocacy that could be included on Meta under the project's scope - the actual facts of the subject are not as relevant to that discussion". [4] This statement is absurd. If terrible war crimes and violations of the genocide convention are being committed (and by all indications, they are), then the page in question is fully justified on grounds of common decency and humanity. If not then it would need to be taken down. "We simply don't have the expertise / community resources to come to a factual decision on a complex political subject like that, nor do we need to on an RfD." This is a cop out. There is no reason that whoever handles the RfD cannot make a reasonable judgement based on the arguments given. That's how every RfC or RfD works. "and I tried using "off-topic" as a way to describe that without taking sides or downplaying the real-life conflict" Why/how should anyone have guessed that? AP295 (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

AP295 (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Decline reason: I think that a month sounds fine, especially in comparison to your blocks at other sites. I would encourage you to watch how you express yourself about other people at this site. Please note Meta:Civility.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC) Reply

Please be more specific. Your reply, which is vague and insinuating, and does not address any part of my appeal, does not mean anything to me. AP295 (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

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