Talk:Village stocks

Template?

Hey, isn't this fun? What we need now is someone to craft a fine template to place on featured users' pages. Some kind of summons to the stocks... Gwinva (talk) 00:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at Template:Stocks, which I plagiarised from a barn star. Not sure if the phrasing is right. "you have been sentenced to the stocks"? Cast your eyes over it, then if it works ok, we can notify the subjects of this page. Gwinva (talk) 01:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems about right. Should there be a time period involved or is the sentence for life? Ronnotel (talk) 04:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the page is for life, as they achieve legendary status. The template is like a barnstar: the recipient can archive, delete or display with pride as so inclined. Gwinva (talk) 06:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ed Poor

How about including Ed Poor for deleting VfD? Aecis^Brievenbus 00:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

go ahead: find a diff or a link so we can all see it. Gwinva (talk) 00:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

That's definitely one for the recursion award. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Please remove this

Sorry to be a killjoy. But, this is a terrible idea. 1) Humiliating people is not a great way to foster civility. 2) WP:BEANS 3) I can see less mature admins seeking ways to get themselves added to this. In short, no benefit to the project and potential harm. Please reconsider.--Doc^g 15:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand your POV. However, please consider that one pre-requisite for holding the mop is the ability to suffer one's ignominy with grace. Also, WP:BEANS may be a bit far-fetched, I think. ;) Ronnotel (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

to suffer one's ignominy with grace - so you always ask people before adding them? I'd say one of the pre-requisits is also not to humiliate or celebrate the ignominy of others.--Doc^g 15:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

No, not celebrating, not at all. I think you misunderstand. More like a cautionary tale, something that can helpfully help new admins understand where the pitfalls lie and why to take things like WP:NAS seriously. Ronnotel (talk) 16:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

That deleting the mainpage is bad isn't rocket science. What is NAS?--Doc^g 16:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

NAS = New Admin School, which I'm sure you remember from when you when through it, right? :) Ronnotel (talk) 16:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, never heard of it. Sounds like more instruction creep to me.--Doc^g 16:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, for example, I didn't realize that deleting the sandbox can take down WP. It's not so far-fetched that a newbie admin might think that the sandbox is an appropriate target for a test of the delete button. Obviously at least one admin thought it was a good idea. Seems to me that would be a nice thing to make sure we all knew. Ronnotel (talk) 16:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The best way to communicate that would be to add a "do not delete" notice to the sandbox. Hoping that people might have read this page is pretty weak.--Doc^g 17:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand your concerns, Doc, but this is supposed to be humorous, and any real humiliation should be removed. I've expanded the "it's not a pillory" note on the page to read: Please note this is NOT a pillory. Its purpose is to amuse, and in essence is a type of cautionary tale, warning us all of the pitfalls waiting to lure us all in. It should never be offensive or accusatory, and anyone posted is free to remove themselves at any time., so I hope that makes it more clear. Gwinva (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I also am not sure if this page is a good idea. I don't think that admins having to suffer one's ignominy with grace means that it is OK to disregard the feelings of admins who make mistakes. Sure, some of them might really not mind being on this page, but others might, and how can you tell the difference? If you just want to tell a cautionary tale then there is no need to name names. Arthena^(talk) 18:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You are right: anyone who doesn't want to be here should not be. Hence people are notified of their nomination. (They could even be asked before posting). And some tales might well be best told annonymously. Essentially, this is for those "Fair cop guv, let this be a lesson to us all" type moments. Gwinva (talk) 19:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm all for any ideas that can make this a low drama event. Participants in this are just that, participants -free to withdraw at any time. Perhaps we can use the word 'participate' on the project page to make that sentiment clear? Ronnotel (talk) 19:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Please then remove all instances where the disparaged person has not consented to inclusion.--Doc^g 19:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I have left a message on everyone's talk page inviting them to do just that. (Except Maxim, who displays his award on his user page, and Animum, who was a self-nom). I'll add something to the project page to suggest willing participants only. And no destructive acts just to get in! Gwinva (talk) 22:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Quote

I propose adding the following quote by Colin Lane to the article (in the same format as Wikipedia:Sarcasm is really helpful): "If all the village idiots... left their villages... and formed their own village... OF IDIOTS... in that village... YOU would be the village idiot." Aecis^Brievenbus 13:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, an amusing section of "thoughts to consider" like that would probably work. You know, "things to reflect on while in the stocks", but not so it seems to be actually accusing the individuals. This page is to make us laugh, but at the same time make us all stop and think about our actions. Gwinva (talk) 04:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Other projects?

How about when a certain Commons admin deleted the deletion requests page? (similar to our XfDs). Could they be included? Majorly (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Now that's funny. I personally wouldn't be against cross-project postings such as this, since the "certain admin" is a wikipedia one as well. Since it is an amusing momentary madness, and a good cautionary tale it would certainly qualify. Gwinva (talk) 04:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Added. Barnstar coming your way. Gwinva (talk) 01:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Controversial actions: treading carefully

A certain user was added to this page over bot null-edits to the main page, but I have removed it for the time being: feeling is still running high at WP:AN, and we don't want to incite anything, or seem to be slinging mud. For incidents like this I think it is wise to sit back and wait until things are resolved. If blocks and bans eventuate, then it is not so amusing. No notice was left on the user page at the time of posting, so we'll leave things for now, I suggest. If everyone can laugh over it in a few days time, then we can re-post properly. Gwinva (talk) 04:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

User:East718 added himself to the hall of shame, but I haven't added any diffs since there was another user involved (as above). Gwinva (talk) 03:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggested nomination

How about this one from the archives: User:Moriori moved the Main Page to Hauturu/Little Barrier Island on November 1, 2005. Move log Sadly Moriori appears to have left Wikipedia, so can't be notified of this - but as a really, really dumb page move, can we add it anyway? Terraxos (talk) 05:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Nah, we shouldn't add people who aren't around to be notified. -- ChrisO (talk) 03:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Blush

I'm afraid I qualified for inclusion on this page this morning by accidentily adding a 't' on the spam blacklist in this edit, thus making all external links containing that letter blocked for half an hour... (after which DerHexer removed the offending letter) - Andre Engels 12:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)