Talk:Community Wishlist/Wishes/新規利用者が最初の記事を作成しやすくなるようにしてほしい

Edit Check

@Kizhiya: Hello, you may interested in the current project Edit Check which is working by WMF Editing team. They also collect several ideas from community and staff for future development. --SCP-2000 02:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@SCP-2000,Thank you for sharing, I will read it carefully. Kizhiya (talk) 12:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for posting this @SCP-2000!

@Kizhiya, Edit check for references was tested at Japanese Wikipedia. I shared the results with the Japanese community not so long ago.

Growth team features could also be a way to address some parts of your wish. They are already available at Japanese Wikipedia.

I would be very curious to know if any of these solutions would help addressing your request, or if they don't. Your input really matters to us.

Thank you, Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 16:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@Trizek (WMF),@SCP-2000,

Thank you for the reply.

I'm worried that if I write in English, the subtle nuances won't be conveyed, so I'll write in Japanese. I am sure JNakayama-WMF or Someone else will translate it into good English.

私は、主に日本語版ウィキペディアで活動しています。EditCheck は便利かもしれません。ですが、それ以前に、私たちには問題があります。Jawpでは、まず、新規参加者が「記事の書き方がわかるガイドページ」にたどりつくのが難しいという問題があります。ガイドページが、どこにあるかわかりづらいのですです。

UIにおけるサイドバーの「ヘルプ」が、ガイドやオリエンテーションに案内する役目を果たしています。私が望んでいるのは、例えば、このタイトルを、「記事の書き方」といった表現に書き変えることです。太字にして目立たせるような方法も考えられます。単に「ヘルプ」だと、日本語では、それが「ウィキペディアの記事の書き方」を示していることを直感的に理解できません。

また、サイドバーに「記事の書き方」と書いてあれば、閲覧者のうち、自分がウィキプロジェクトに参加することを想像もしていなかった人が、編集や貢献を試してみようと考える可能性があります。 Kizhiya (talk) 00:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

@Trizek (WMF) @Kizhiya

To elaborate on Kizhiya's comment, my understanding of the challenge mentioned here is prior to the phase of utilizing the EditCheck and References checks. It's around better supporting the newcomers to understand the very basics guidelines and policies including the Five Pillars in order to help them take those first steps in editing with the right mindset. How can the newcomers start editing better equipped with the knowledge of the important policies and guidelines? Or at least knowing where they can to go and check when they are not sure? Improvements on this process could potentially help the newcomers to better appreciate and utilize the Growth team features. JNakayama-WMF (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

I think " How can the newcomers start editing better equipped with the knowledge of the important policies and guidelines?" is the main question here.

Writing an article means knowing the sum of (almost) all policies. The Growth team initial goal is to help newcomers understanding these policies, by selecting relevant tasks to start with. Edit check offers guidance and policies discovery while editing.

I will also open the question to collect ideas: should create an article be discouraged, with a clear invite sent after completing onboarding tasks? (Please note that it goes against the Founding principles to block all article creation.)

Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 11:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)