Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Caló

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Request for a new language edition: Wiktionary Caló

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submitted

verification

final decision

This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval. A committee member provided the following comment: There doesn't seem to be a problem with the eligibility here. --MF-W 23:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

• The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
• The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
• The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	rmq (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Caló	Language name in English
Language name	Caló	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q35466 - item has currently the following values: English label: Caló native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): language, modern language, mixed language / Para-Romani, Spanish Wikimedia language code (P424): writing system (P282): number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 60,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	rmq.wiktionary.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wiktionary	"Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace	wiktionary	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Europe/Madrid	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

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Proposal

We propose creating a Wiktionary project in Caló language. This language was largely spoken by the Romani people who lived and live in the Iberian peninsula. Nowadays, its number of speakers in this peninsula (mainly Spain and Portugal) can vary between 60 thousand and 150 thousand people, depending on the estimates. However, it is also spoken by Romani communities of Iberian origin, present in various countries of Latin America (especially in Argentina, Mexico, Colombia and Brazil), thus the total number of speakers ranges between 65,000 and 170,000).

Despite the relatively large number of speakers, the published dictionaries of this language are not very comprehensive or scientifically rigurous individually. A collaborative project, such a Wiktioinary, could constitute a place to join efforts to create a well-organized Caló dictionary.

Moreover, many Caló terms have been borrowed in Spanish, Portuguese and Catalan, therefore, this Caló Wiktionary could also serve as reference and source of information for people looking for the etymology of many words included in the Wiktionaries of these other languages.

There is a growing awareness and appreciation for the Caló language, in part recenlty supported by linguists, and also by its importance and influence in songs, poetry and flamenco.

For these reasons, including cultural interest, linguistic relevance and usefulness for the current speakers of Caló and related languages, we request the creation of the Caló Wiktionary.

Discussion

@Ddrazir: Have you ever created test project? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:52, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

No, I am currently looking for native Caló speakers who could contribute to the project by creating the main pages, but above all supervising / correcting new edits. --Ddrazir (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)