Requests for new languages/Wikipedia South African English

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language.

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	en-ZA (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	South African English	Language name in English
Language name	English	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q1156228 - item has currently the following values: English label: South African English native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): dialect / English Wikimedia language code (P424): writing system (P282): number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098):	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	en-za.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikipedia	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace	South African English Wikipedia	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Wikipedia talk	"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	yes	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	[[:]]	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	South African time zone	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

The people of south Africa, matriculants & ordinary people are craving for free knowledge. They crave for an encyclopidia in the south African English. Not everyone is able to read and/or write in simple or complex English. Harley Quinn on duty (talk) 11:42, 6 December 2023 (UTC) Merged from another duplicated request: We as South Africans sometimes struggle to understand the terms and fusions they use in Normal English. We are used to using our own English. South African English is a mixture of South African culture and traditions. I understand that there is already a Simple English Wikipedia but that's not good enough. You can never find the meaning of haibo there. And even if you make an article about "haibo", by far the most spoken word in SA, the article will be deleted in less than 2 hours. So with that being said I believe that it is better for us south Africans to have our own Wikipedia and even if you are not South African, you can still join and learn our South African ways!!!! The girl kay (talk) 05:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

There is already a Wikipedia in English. No need for this. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 15:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's what you think The girl kay (talk) 09:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
South African English is not a language. It’s mutually intelligible with all other forms of standard English. Dronebogus (talk) 00:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for this reason. --SHB2000 (t • c) 06:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Close a.s.a.p., since South African English is no doubt mutually intelligible with, say, British English and currently each dialect of English does not have its edition of Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia project.--RekishiEJ (talk) 09:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect but it's easy for you to say because you are not from south Africa. Think about the fact that people from south Africa struggle to understand normal English The girl kay (talk) 09:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.gov.za/services-residents is a bunch of pages written by South Africans, for South Africans. To find differences from US English, I'd have to dig; it's certainly not a whole different language.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]