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Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Kotava

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submitted

verification

final decision

This proposal has been approved. The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project. A committee member provided the following comment: The language was deemed eligible by langcom for reasons like incubator:Special:Diff/4814927. The project was approved because activity is sufficient. The phabricator request will be made when the settings are ready. --MF-W 10:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC) phabricator:T257943 --MF-W 16:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

• The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
• The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
• The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	avk (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Kotava	Language name in English
Language name	Kotava	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q1377116 - item has currently the following values: English label: Kotava native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): constructed language, international auxiliary language / Wikimedia language code (P424): avk writing system (P282): Latin script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098):	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	no indication	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	avk.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikipedia	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace	Wikipedia	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Wikipedia prilaxo	"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-avk.svg	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Etc/GMT	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

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Proposal

I think that we would need a Kotava language Wikipedia. --117.15.55.203 03:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

Support : Kotava exists since 1978. Its community is small, not proselytizing but nevertheless active. This project is already progressing well in the incubator and I am sure it will remain active and of good quality if it will be officially open. Amongst the constructed languages, except Esperanto, Kotava is certainly the one with the strongest literary development, with many translations and original texts. Among other fields that will be strong on the encyclopedia, there is Africa (look for example the "portal" about Tanzania), prehistory, history more generally, the Russian world widely, the geography and some other themes. On the other hand, for the moment at least, the scientific fields (medicine, mathematics, chemistry, etc.) are weak points.

Languages die every day, unfortunately. Others, very rare, are born and need space and benevolence to grow and to blossom. Wikipedia must fit into this free way of life. Thank you. --Axel xadolik (talk) 07:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to put this on hold for a time. There is a fairly high bar to have a conlang marked as eligible. So I'd like to give this test community a little time to solidify before I start discussing this request with LangCom. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: It's been one year since you quarantined this project. 7,000 articles have been written. What's missing? Who gives the imprimatur? At whose feet must we bow? Who is the hidden god of your so-called committee? Please answer, thanks. Biscuit 26507 (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

It is not 'so-called'. Without the Language Committee your project can't be approved and it's not nice idea to force anybody to approve the project. Give them time - as an ex-editor of Wikimedia Incubator I can say it may require from several months up to 3-4 years. 7000 or no matter how much articles don't really matter, I remember approved projects with a couple of hundreds of acticles, and a project with ~15000 articles. --Wolverène (talk) 09:47, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Strong support. I contribute to this project in the incubator which is very active and diverse. There are already more than 2500 articles. What is the bar required to be validated? What time is needful, a year, ten years, the engulfment of Amsterdam under the water? Biscuit 26507 (talk) 09:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

5300 articles and still nothing! What's the problem? Biscuit 26507 (talk) 15:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Support : Having made 3400 edits in this project since 2017, I hope it will be quickly admitted. Nevatovol (talk) 07:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Support : The speakers of Kotava are widely scattered throughout the world and this project is a wonderful way to federate them intelligently and to share their knowledge and culture. Seramikya (talk) 09:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Strong oppose It is not popular conlague with very small community. --Fenikals (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

@Fenikals:

(eo) Saluton Fenikals.

La Kotava parlantaro ja estas malgranda sed aktivegas kaj ĝiaj uzantoj estas altnivelaj. Ekzemple vidu literarurajn tradukaĵojn de verkoj de rusaj beletristoj kiel Шолохов, Гроссман, Короленко, Неверов, Пастернак, Чехов, Толстой, Достоевский, Замятин, ktp. Kaj ĉe la Kovilo artikoloj kiel tiu koncerne al la gulago de Kolima aŭ esplorantoj de Siberio.

Ne opiniu laŭ kelka konkurado kaj plibone informiĝetu. Amike.

(avk) Va Fenikals kiavá.

Kotavusa doda efe tir pinafa voxe tegipir isen avusik tid ontinekaf. Tulon disukel va kalkotavaks va grabom ke rossiavaf suterotik dum Coloxov is Grosman is Korolenko is Neverov is Pasternak is Tcexov is Tolstoy is Dostoyevski is Zamyatin ikz-. Isen dene Incubator xadola, va teliz dum tel icde Gulag pemaxobolk ke Kolima ok vestasik va Sibira.

Ton tuelicara me trakul voxe lokiewon cenkadamal !! Noton. Nevatovol (talk) 10:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Support: I just saw this proposition. Kotava is not a "big" language and will probably never be, but it's one of the actually original IALs that have the most dedicated community of speakers. I'm sure that they could keep a Wikipedia living and growing --Theomanou (talk) 14:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Support: This project is a good idea, and the comunity is active. Damdarak (talk) 15:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Support: Well.
Va Kotava num kotavaf siatos ke Wikipedia en bristupú. Kotavusik (talk) 19:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Support: For approval. Recaredo (talk) 13:21, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Support: Le kotava est une langue à vocation internationale, comme l'espéranto, mais créée par Staren Fetcey sur des bases assez différentes et assumant ses choix et ses objectifs de neutralité linguistique et culturelle. Elle existe maintenant depuis quarante ans et a converti un certain nombre de gens partageant les mêmes idées, convictions et idéaux.

Wikipedia est un lieu d'expression libre et ouvert à toutes les cultures et toutes les langues. Il accueille déjà des langues de même nature, comme l'espéranto, l'ido, l'interlingua ou le volapük; il n'y a donc pas de raison qu'il n'en aille pas de même pour le kotava. D'autant que le travail déjà fourni est conséquent (presque 6000 articles) et dans des domaines très variés de la connaissance universelle. Abdumimaks zo govanovar !! Gabriel Antiange (talk) 11:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

This project has been around for more than one year with daily contributions by more than three Wikipedians. It has more than 6,000 articles. I would like to ask when is it going to be approved. --Chabi (talk) 08:14, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Support: For two years a great work has been done. So the approval is logical. Zveri ke Abitibi (talk) 20:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Support: There is an active community contributing to the Wikipedia in Incubator. Jonashtand (talk) 18:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Strong support: There are many users contributing to the Kotava Wikipedia every month, and this testwiki has a community really dedicated on it. Additionally, there are more than 3 contributors with more than 10 edits for one and half year in this test Wikipedia. Furthermore more than 9,000 articles have been created. However, many articles need expansion. Personally, I strongly support the approval of Kotava Wikipedia. NikosLikomitros (talk) 23:17, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Why this Wikipedia hasn't been approved yet? More than 9,000 articles, more than three contributors doing articles every day for more than one year and it hasn't been approved, why is this? --Chabi (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Strong support. A main work, enormous activity for two years. An active and large community. A great project. Цареник Костович (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

 Strong support. A very nice project, active and regularly developed. It fully deserves its place in Wikipedia. Kotava does not have the importance of Esperanto as a constructed language, but its community is active and dynamic. Herakles2000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

 Strong support. It has an active community, far more active than Novial's community has ever been, and this community has demonstrated its willingness to contribute fervently and actively to Wikipedia on a level that many constructed language communities have never shown. Even if all the ghost wikis for languages like Novial and Interlingue and Volapük were closed tomorrow, I would still support Kotava, as its community has demonstrated a willingness to actively contribute on a level that makes it worth giving sanction. פֿינצטערניש (talk) 09:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

 Strong support. El kotava es el único idioma construido hablado principalmente por mujeres, con una verdadera dimensión feminista, progresista, globalista y equitativa. Curacaví Marisel (talk) 19:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Settings

Please add the missing "Settings" into the template at the top of the page (project name, project namespace, etc.). --MF-W 10:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: I've just completed the missing settings. Check, I think everything is correct. I am looking forward to get into the definitive domain. I hope there won't be any unpleasant technical surprises. Thank you very much. Nevatovol (talk) 13:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. --MF-W 16:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)