Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Kaili
submitted | verification | final decision |
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).
The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved. |
- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What | Value | Example / Explanation |
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Proposal | ||
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Language code | lew (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
Language name | Kaili | Language name in English |
Language name | Basa Kaili | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
Language Wikidata item | Q6347964 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
Directionality | LTR | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
Site URL | lew.wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
Settings | ||
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Project name | Wikipedia | "Wikipedia" in your language |
Project namespace | usually the same as the project name | |
Project talk namespace | toh | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) |
Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
Optional settings | ||
Project logo | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). | |
Default project timezone | Asia/Palu | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
Additional namespaces | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". | |
Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
Proposal
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edit- Neutral Per [1], the test wiki looks rarely can-active, with an average of nearly 5 edits per year, this wiki will unlikely be approved, but for the language eligiblity, I see no opposition. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- So far, tthe ca. 30 articles are mostly one-liners which consist of almost identical phrases with lots of geographical names, some phrases appear to be in Bahasa Indonesia rather than Kaili, still. There needs to be more content and more activity. --✍ Janwo Disk./de:wp 06:10, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Janwo The another problem seems raised by Wikipedia article, where three Kaili "dialects" are having their own codes: lew for Ledo (that the test project is using), kzf for Da'a and unz for Unde, I'm not sure if it's okay to just using lew to cover two others, since there's still uncertain on mutually intelligible level between the three. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ledo is kind of the "standard" dialect of that cluster. This is how it has been treated in the relevant literature produced here in Indonesia where the Kaili grammar is also to the biggest part based on Ledo. This is also how it is handled in the "alternate names" listing at Glottolog https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/ledo1238 and https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/comm1248 - There is no separate macrolanguage code for Common Kaili, though, see https://iso639-3.sil.org/code_tables/macrolanguage_mappings/read. Since all the other dialects also have their own distinct names and ISO codes, there is no problem if there should ever be, say, an Unde WP project. But yes, we might consider calling this project Kaili Ledo instead. --✍ Janwo Disk./de:wp 05:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Janwo The another problem seems raised by Wikipedia article, where three Kaili "dialects" are having their own codes: lew for Ledo (that the test project is using), kzf for Da'a and unz for Unde, I'm not sure if it's okay to just using lew to cover two others, since there's still uncertain on mutually intelligible level between the three. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)