Meta talk:Requests for adminship/Mmovchin (temp 2)

Sorry if I sound too bureaucratic but if I planned to grant temporary sysop access for 1 year I'd have waited a bit more than 2 minutes to grant it. —Marco Aurelio (audiencia) 15:00, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Before granting this right, I had already discussed it with another crat and I had been discussing it with the user (who asked for a Meta crat on IRC) for over half an hour to see what the requirements were, how often the user right would be used, which of the huggle developer(s) would require access to it and even what would happen if Mmovchin was to leave developing huggle before the temporary sysopship expired. I considered telling the user to request permanent sysopship and giving the admin user right with no exact expiry, as has been given in cases at Meta:Administrators#Temporary adminship. I concluded that a permanent request would most likely not pass due to the fact that the user is not really active in other Meta-Wiki activities and giving a long-term adminship but with an expiration was the best option as this will mean that there will be a review of the rights and whether they are still required in a year's time. It's good to know you're keeping an eye on the newbie crat, but I did not decide this in the space of 2 minutes! :-) The Helpful One 15:13, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Having said the above, I realise that IRC != wiki, so if you want to re-open this for a more extended period of (public) discussion then I would not object to that. The Helpful One 15:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) IRC, IRC, IRC... Well, last time a closure of an RfA was decided on the IRC I protested too. I belive that should not really happen because it's not the appropiate place. And I'm not keeping an eye on you specifically; I do watchilist a large number of pages and logs which I track somewhat dayly to know what's going on and Meta:RfA is obviously one of them. I'm sorry if you feel watched, tracked or stalked. I have no issues with the 'crat work you've been doing nor with you personally :-)

Talking about the request I certainly do not have issues with Mmovchin having temp. adminship. Last one was one month; I'd have gone with 3 or 6 months personally but that's another issue which could be debated on-wiki. I'm generally unhappy with the ambiguous policy on temporary adminship and some closures done under that ambiguous terminology. The "less formal" seems to have become no formality at all. Meta-Wiki certainly do need to stay away from ultra-bureaucratization but I think waiting a bit longer —24 hours if it's not urgent, for example— would not hurt. Regards. —Marco Aurelio (audiencia) 15:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(post-edit-conflict re: reopening) I don't think this is something that can be done unilaterally. Regards. —Marco Aurelio (audiencia) 15:43, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Heh no problem, that was a joke about you keeping an eye on me, and I like to make sure I'm not doing something wrong! Agreed I was a bit hasty on this one and I'm not quite sure how best to tackle the temporary adminship not really being temporary, I will ask Mmovchin about re-opening, I don't think he will mind. The Helpful One 15:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Per MA - madness that this should be decided on IRC when quite a few folk don't use that and the idea of "temporary" being a year does not sit well with me. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Mmovchin is happy for the RFA to be re-opened, I'd imagine we could do it as keep the adminship on, then when we've decided what time is appropriate we can just remove the adminship then re-add it defining the new expiry time (if there is one). The Helpful One 21:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello guys, 5 days are gone now. How it's going on? --Mmovchin (talk) 08:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Nearly one month went over... --Mmovchin (talk) 21:07, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

It appears that you already have the flag, so I suppose you are free to do as you need to. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

This is a little ridiculous. He has a need for the sysop tools for a year, just give them to him. What is he going to do, destroy wikiland? Surely we have better things to focus our time worrying about. Ajraddatz (Talk) 21:56, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I want $1,000,000 to buy a house near the beach. Somebody please give it to me :-P. Now seriously, the only thing I was disturbed about is that this was closed in just two minutes & in an agreement over IRC. Waiting 24/48 would certainly not hurt. That's all. Mmovchin should feel free to use their tools for what (s)he needs. I do not intend to reopen the RfA, as I expressed above. There's no need to feed the discussion anymore IMHO. Regards. —Marco Aurelio (audiencia) 18:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

And I agree that in hindsight I closed too early, but really, the IRC cabal can do a lot more than get someone temporary adminship on Meta. ;-) The Helpful One 18:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Can we please close this discussion then? I think there's nothing left to discuss anymore? Regards. —Marco Aurelio (audiencia) 18:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--Mmovchin (talk) 00:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)