Meta talk:Flood flag

Archives /Archives/2008-09

Allow changes tagged as flood to be viewed in settings...

How is this different than minor changes? Are there changes that might be done that are major that would be marked as "flood"? Examples? It seems no matter what the outcome is, that at least there should be the option of including flood in the recent changes. Emesee 02:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

"Flooded" edits would be in RC, rolled in with the bot edits. They are not invisible to those who desire to keep an eye on them. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

If it hasn't been proposed yet, I'd like to point out would be useful to add a special flag (e.g. "f" instead of "b") to differentiate these from the usual bot edits. Admiral Norton 18:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

And by "rolled in" you mean if you "show bot edits" you will also see "flood" edits? Emesee 19:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 20:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

What actions?

The page does nothing to explain what actions are all of:

1. Manual (not done by a bot, or bot approval process and flag would be applicable)
2. Repetitive
3. Frequent
4. Beneficial
5. Minor

All of these criteria would need to be met to justify the flag, and the page gives no examples, nor can I think of any. Superm401 | Talk 05:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The first four make sense, but I don't see why minor would be a necessity on this wiki (though it depends on your definition of minor). A Meta admin making 25 deletions to empty out a backlogged could easily flood RC, and I would (personally) imagine them applying this flag beforehand. Thoughts from others? —Giggy 15:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I also don't see why frequent would be necessary - a one-off bulk task is what I'd say this is meant for specifically (as opposed to opening a bot account).  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 19:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Some good examples here (thanks Mike). —Giggy 00:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

One is not always appropriate, I used to grant myself a bot flag to do a bunch of user renames, which were ran using bot — vvv 23:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Which projects? (Or, is it really enabled on Meta?)

Meta:Flood flag sounds like this feature is enabled on Meta. However, I don't see a link in Special:SpecialPages from where I can give myself a flood flag, as an admin. Huji 10:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course, I can use Special:UserRights, but I expect a link to it to be present in Special:SpecialPages when I can use it! Or maybe it is a feature request for the software....! Huji 10:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

If it's part of UserRights, than there wouldn't be a link to it from SpecialPages because SpecialPages would only link to UserRights (not specific features of it). (How things actually work may vary, that's just my understanding.) Giggy 11:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

It's a changeable user right that I think all admins can apply to themselves through UserRights. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, use Special:UserRights to change user rights. Having a special special page for this is not worthwhile, IMO.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 16:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it just Meta that has this feature? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 17:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, however any wiki may request this configuration.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 17:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you missed the point: If you are a Bureaucrat, you will have a link to Special:UserRights in your Special:SpecialPages. If you are a normal sysop, you don't (because you don't have permission to change rights. The question here: If you are a sysop with the ability to use Flood Flag, shouldn't you have a link to Special:UserRights in your Special:SpecialPages?

I think this is more of a feature request in MediaWiki (haven't checked that), which is, when a user has a right to modify a right (in any form), he should have a link to UserRights in SpecialPages. I wonder why it hasn't been there already. Am I missing something? Huji 07:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

If your group has permission to add or remove (or both) a group to either yourself or other users, you have access to special:userrights, though it's limited to those rights you're able to modify. Bureaucrats on Meta, for instance, do not have the 'userrights' permission, they're set up to specifically be able to add and remove the bot, admin, and bureaucrat flags. Full userrights are reserved for Stewards and similar permissions (sysadmins and staff, for instance). It's already running here just fine. Kylu 07:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

So, you say if it wasn't Meta (where we have the highly sensitive role, "steward", in use) I would have that link there, right?Huji 14:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, I think I understand the issue here. On Special:SpecialPages there isn't Special:UserRights (for sysops). So this is a bug - anyone who can change rights using that interface should have it listed on Special:SpecialPages. I'll submit a bug report now if not already done.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 15:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggest to add info about how to get it and use Flood flag / pseudobot

Example on how it looks when you want to add the flood flag (pseudobot)

Flood flag is not enabled on all Wikis. You have to ask for it. I suggest that we add a short text that tell how to add it (the screenshot to the right) and that if the Flood flag / pseudobot group does not exist in Special:ListGroupRights on the wiki then you have to request it on phabricator:. --MGA73 (talk) 12:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)