Meta:Requests for translation adminship/Pleclown
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- In order to help Benoit Rochon, I would like to have the transaltion admin right. I'm a translation admin on Commons and have used the Translate extension. I've marked for translation pages such as [1] Pleclown (talk) 16:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- One of these two requests should be withdrawn. First is Benoit requesting it for himself, and you are now asking the same rights to help him. If he withdraws and approves, this should be considered otherwise this is redundant. Theo10011 (talk) 13:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- One could say: "The more, the merrier". I was ony applying to help the community, but since you're overwhelmed by contributors of good will to mark pages for translation, I will gladly step down, and use my time somewhere else, where my willingness to help the community and the movement is appreciated. Pleclown (talk) 13:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Why Thank You! This seems like an odd line to take. You didn't ask for the rights to help with anything specifically, you just asked to help another single person who is already requesting the exact same rights a day ahead of you. When I asked for clarification if the user you want to help is withdrawing, you state that you will take your time somewhere else?....ok. You do realize you made your request entirely about helping Benoit, while benoit is asking for the same right for himself, I had nothing to do with that. Theo10011 (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You do realise that there is no limited amount of translation-admin bit avalaible ? That it's not because one gets it for a certain task, that an other one could not get it to help one ? I'm not requesting adminship, I'm requesting the possibility to initiate translations ! This is a wiki, if someone does it wrong, one can always revert. I really don't understand your first answer... Pleclown (talk) 16:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I might be wrong but I assume Theo is wondering - with some justification - why Benoit might need, in a way, two sets of tools for the same stuff. However, I assume I'm also justified to think your request is actually based on a partially different set of texts and tasks that, while closely related to and in cooperation with Benoit's own edits in the same area of French translations, are not 1:1 what he is trying to do. Shared but not duplicated work, correct? If so, you don't make that explicit in your original request but it would be good to clarify this point. Thanks and regards, --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it's shared work I was hinting at. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Pleclown (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I might be wrong but I assume Theo is wondering - with some justification - why Benoit might need, in a way, two sets of tools for the same stuff. However, I assume I'm also justified to think your request is actually based on a partially different set of texts and tasks that, while closely related to and in cooperation with Benoit's own edits in the same area of French translations, are not 1:1 what he is trying to do. Shared but not duplicated work, correct? If so, you don't make that explicit in your original request but it would be good to clarify this point. Thanks and regards, --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You do realise that there is no limited amount of translation-admin bit avalaible ? That it's not because one gets it for a certain task, that an other one could not get it to help one ? I'm not requesting adminship, I'm requesting the possibility to initiate translations ! This is a wiki, if someone does it wrong, one can always revert. I really don't understand your first answer... Pleclown (talk) 16:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Why Thank You! This seems like an odd line to take. You didn't ask for the rights to help with anything specifically, you just asked to help another single person who is already requesting the exact same rights a day ahead of you. When I asked for clarification if the user you want to help is withdrawing, you state that you will take your time somewhere else?....ok. You do realize you made your request entirely about helping Benoit, while benoit is asking for the same right for himself, I had nothing to do with that. Theo10011 (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- One could say: "The more, the merrier". I was ony applying to help the community, but since you're overwhelmed by contributors of good will to mark pages for translation, I will gladly step down, and use my time somewhere else, where my willingness to help the community and the movement is appreciated. Pleclown (talk) 13:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Any more opinions on this one? -Barras talk 20:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep --Base (talk) 21:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What are you going to do/mark as a TA here; could you tag a page or more here as well, please? --Base (talk) 21:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Mark as TA: Whatever needs translation. I personnaly think that we need to have more pages in other langages than english.
- Example: I've marked Wikibureaucracy for translation. I've made the choice to mark the titles as a group (T2 to T4) because I think that it's the best way. Many times (not on this page, obviously) titles are "explicit" and the paragraphs are detailed explanations. By grouping, I allow a quick translation of the important information (ie titles).
- Pleclown (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Erm, your way of tagging headers shows just that you havent (carefully) read docs where it is one of examples (see links in MF-W's post at RfTA next to yours) or willing not follow the docs. Headers should be separeted from text but =s in them should be saved to let translators know that they are translating a header (e.g. perhaps some of the variety of languages have some rules for headers). --Base (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You'e right, I missed that point. Even if I think that there shouldn't be too much wikimarkup, I will follow the rules. Pleclown (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Minimum of wikimarkup is general rule but it has exceptions like headers, lists etc. that listed in docs. I havent noticed one very important thing from the first view - you should never put html-comments of units' numbers manualy - extension automaticaly put them when TA marks for translation. You can just move them a bit within page (e.g. join units or split unit where it needed, that requires editing all translations then) if they are already put by extension. Please remove them. --Base (talk) 15:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You'e right, I missed that point. Even if I think that there shouldn't be too much wikimarkup, I will follow the rules. Pleclown (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Erm, your way of tagging headers shows just that you havent (carefully) read docs where it is one of examples (see links in MF-W's post at RfTA next to yours) or willing not follow the docs. Headers should be separeted from text but =s in them should be saved to let translators know that they are translating a header (e.g. perhaps some of the variety of languages have some rules for headers). --Base (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Successfull - Since there are no real objections I will close this as successful. Please use the tool carefully. -Barras talk 13:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]