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Wikiwebsites edit

Hi, we did add a proposition for a new project. We would be glad to have your feedbacks. Here it is : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiwebsites

It's about a "Library of free projects" (excluding software). Art, science, architecture, comics, movies, pictures,... which can be found under Creative commons licences, but also Open hardware, GFDL, public domain, Art Libre, FOIA… Graineahumus (talk)

Advisory board of a user group edit

In relation to a question I raised in a grant discussion, I would like to know how advisory boards of affiliates are selected and operate. Is it normal for an advisory board member 1) to be a member of the affiliate they advise, 2) to receive compensation from the affiliate they advise?, 3) to sign a non-disclosure agreement with the affiliate (or its representative, if the affiliate is not a legal entity)? Plus, I would be happy to learn if there is any relevant documentation, besides the points above. The original discussion was in the user group context, not other kinds of affiliate, if that makes a difference. I suppose the answer might be "every organization do it differently according to their needs" but I would like to know there is a general expectation. whym (talk) 10:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is there a better place to ask a question like this? Talk:Wikimedia movement affiliates and Talk:Wikimedia user groups don't seem generally active. whym (talk) 05:17, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For more information specifically about affiliates (as opposed to general user groups) see Affiliations Committee. They have a mailing list they recommend. — xaosflux Talk 11:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the pointer. The mailing list seems to be non-public. Is there a reason not to discuss this publicly? I understand some issues require confidentiality, but I think we are safe as long as we keep it general without going into details like amounts of compensation paid to individuals. whym (talk) 10:52, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder? edit

Apologies for writing in English.

The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.

  • The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
  • Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
  • Compensation is available.
  • Sessions will be held in January and February.
  • Sign up here if you are interested.
  • Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.

We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)

[New technology] Revision database edit

Demonstration on skwiki-20240101-pages-meta-history.xml.bz2
Now Concept
Database ~16GB 1 to 5GB
Export (bz2) ~2.8GB ~1.1GB

Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 19:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dialects edit

Hi, Is there any way to handle dialects of a WP language in the user profile?

The idea is to be able to customize the text (via translatewiki or similar) without creating a new instance of WP. Dialects of a language usually only affect a small number of words or expressions and it is not worth having a new global corpus. But users appreciate reading the text adjusted to their dialect.

Thanks Amadalvarez (talk) 06:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, @Amire80. Any answer / suggestion ? Amadalvarez (talk) 07:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't have anything big to say about this. Several languages that are clearly affected by this: English, Portuguese, Catalan. There are definitely more.
In English, everything just lives in the same Wikipedia. The policy is to keep the variety within one article consistent, and to try to make it consistent with the topic of the article (British if it's culturally British, for example), and with the first versions of the article when culture is irrelevant. It kind of makes sense, but it's not actually great, because it's very writer-oriented, and as you say, it's also the readers who want to read in an orthography that is comfortable for them. So the English solution may be good for the editors community, but it's not great for the users.
Serbian (sr), Croatian (hr), Bosnian (bs), and Serbo-Croatian (sh) are largely the same language, with some minor differences in spelling and vocabulary (especially in Croatian), but for unfortunate historical and political reasons, they have four Wikipedias. This caused pretty severe problems. Serbian is often written in the Cyrillic alphabet, and the others are usually written in Latin, but that's actually the easiest part, and this has already been solved with the language converter.
In theory, the language converter could be enhanced to be used for more languages, but it would require some development by knowledgeable people, and I'm not sure who that would be. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, @Amire80. I did not know language converter. Looking its page, I see the concept of language variant code that can answer my question, because my initial doubt was how to identify the dialect in the user's profile to be able to act, either with language converter or with another formula.
I understand that having a language variant does not mean having a new WP, but a language code with a fallback of the language of which it is a dialect. Is it like that?. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 22:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Whole new Wikipedias are created only in languages that have full-fledged ISO 639 codes, and that are distinct from other languages. (There are some Wikipedias that were created very long ago, and don't conform to this rule, but new ones are not created unless they conform to it.)
Fallback is for user interface translations, and not so much for content. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 01:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Issue with Content Formatting in Wiki Pages edit

I've encountered an issue with the formatting of content in wiki pages on [your wiki]. Specifically, when I try to include code snippets or tables in my articles, the formatting appears inconsistent or breaks entirely.

Expected Result: The code snippet or table should be properly formatted and displayed as intended.

Actual Result: The formatting appears inconsistent or breaks, leading to a less-than-ideal presentation of the code or table.

Additional Information: I've tested this issue across multiple browsers, and the problem persists. It seems to be affecting various pages throughout the wiki. I've also tried different formatting techniques, but the issue remains unresolved.

Request for Assistance: I would appreciate any guidance or assistance in resolving this formatting issue. If anyone has experienced a similar problem or has suggestions on how to address it, please share your insights. Additionally, if there are any updates or changes in the wiki's formatting guidelines that I might not be aware of, please let me know. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Joeroot43 (talk) 19:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Joeroot43 most of our projects have the mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight utility available to help with marking up certain code. Additionally, tables require specific markup syntax as described here: mw:Help:Tables. — xaosflux Talk 19:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Announcing the 2024 Ombuds Commission edit

Hello, everyone! I'm writing with information about the Ombuds Commission (OC), the small group of volunteers who investigate complaints about violations of the privacy policy, and in particular concerning the use of CheckUser and Oversight tools, on any Wikimedia project for the Board of Trustees. I apologize for the length of the announcement. :)

The application period for new commissioners for 2024-26 recently closed. The Wikimedia Foundation is extremely grateful to the many experienced and insightful volunteers who offered to assist with this work.

This year’s OC will consist of thirteen members and one Steward-Observer. We are experimenting this year with expanding the committee's "regular" member headcount and leaving vacant the "advisor" positions, which historically have basically functioned as alternates in case of committee member attrition.

I am pleased to announce the composition of the 2024 OC:

Ombuds Commission members edit

だ*ぜ

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=%E3%81%A0%EF%BC%8A%E3%81%9C>

だ*ぜ, who also may be referred to as Dasze, has been contributing to Wikimedia since 2015. He's primarily active on Chinese Wikimedia projects, where he later served as a director of Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong from 2019 to 2023 while users in Hong Kong were suffering various affection in and out of Wikimedia projects. His expertise is international law, human rights law, and statistical and quantitative analysis thereon. He speaks Mandarin, Cantonese, Shanghainese, English and some Japanese. This is Dasze's first year on the Ombuds Commission and he has been appointed for a 2-year term.

AGK <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=AGK>

AGK has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2008. He is primarily active on English Wikipedia, where he has been an administrator, Checkuser, and Oversighter and has served as an Arbitrator. AGK served on the Ombuds Commission in 2020 and 2021 and again in 2023. AGK's term on the Ombuds Commission expires in 2026.

Ameisenigel

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Ameisenigel>

Ameisenigel has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2015. He is primarily active on German Wikipedia, where he served as an Arbitrator from 2020 to 2022, and on Wikidata and is an administrator on both projects. He is also active as a translation admin in several projects. Ameisenigel speaks German and English. He has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2021 and his current term expires in 2026.

Bennylin <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Bennylin>

Bennylin has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2004. He's primarily active on Indonesian and Javanese Wikiprojects, where he's sysop in 6 of them, Checkuser in Indonesian Wikipedia, bureaucrat in Indonesian Wiktionary, and also active in Commons, Meta, Wikidata, and MediaWiki. He has previously served as a global Steward. He speaks Indonesian, English, Javanese, Chinese and some Spanish. Bennylin has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2023 and his term expires in 2025.

Daniuu <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Daniuu>

Daniuu has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2019. They are primarily active on Dutch Wikipedia, where they are a sysop and have been a member of the Arbitration Committee. They are also a global sysop and focus on counter-vandalism work. Daniuu speaks Dutch and English. Daniuu has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2023 and their term expires in 2025.

Doǵu

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Do%C7%B5u>

Doğu Abaris (Doǵu) has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2012. He is primarily active on Turkish Wikipedia, where he has served as an administrator, interface administrator, and oversighter. Additionally, he is a volunteer MediaWiki developer and is currently working on the Auditor MediaWiki extension. He is studying software and data engineering at Singidunum University in Belgrade. His term on OC runs through 2026.

Emufarmers

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Emufarmers>

Emufarmers has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2005. He is a Metapedian who primarily edits the English Wikipedia; he is also a bureaucrat and sysop on MediaWiki.org, and has provided software support to many third-party, non-Wikimedia wikis over the years. He has served as a VRTS administrator since 2015 and has been on the Elections Committee since 2023. He served on the Ombuds Commission from 2019-2021 and again in 2023. His current term expires in 2026.

Faendalimas

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Faendalimas>

Scott Thomson, user:Faendalimas, has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2006. Originally Australian though based in Brazil, he is a taxonomist and evolutionary biologist with a background in International Wildlife Policy, his main editing interest is reptiles and amphibians. He is most active on WikiSpecies, where he is a bureaucrat, Checkuser, and administrator. Faendalimas speaks Portuguese and English. He has served on the Ombuds Commission since 2021 and as Chair from 2022 to 2023, and has been appointed for a two-year term this year.

MdsShakil <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=MdsShakil>

MdsShakil has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2019. He is active on Bengali Wikipedia, Bengali Wikibooks, Wikidata, and Commons. He is an administrator on Bengali Wikipedia and Bengali Wikibooks and serves as a global renamer, global rollbacker, and global sysop. He speaks Bengali and English. MdsShakil has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2023, and his term expires in 2025.

Minorax <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Minorax>

Minorax has been active on Wikimedia projects since 2019. They are a Metapedian who is active on a large number of projects, including Commons, where they have over 400,000 edits, English Wikipedia, and Meta, where they are a Checkuser. They are also a global sysop. Minorax speaks English and Chinese. Minorax has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2023 and their term expires in 2025.

Nehaoua

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Nehaoua>

Nehaoua holds a master's degree in Highway and Bridge Engineering and currently works as a Civil Engineer. However, his true passion lies with knowledge and its free access for all. Since 2009, Nehaoua has been an active Wikimedian, contributing significantly across various projects like French and Arabic Wikipedia, Wikidata, Wikisource, and Wiktionary. Nehaoua is fluent in Arabic and French, and is actively improving his English language skills. Nehaoua's term on OC expires in 2026.

Renvoy

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Renvoy>

Renvoy has been editing Wikimedia projects since 2014. He is primarily active on Ukrainian Wikipedia, where he serves as administrator. Also he holds roles of global sysop and global rollbacker. Renvoy speaks Ukrainian, Russian, English, Polish and Lithuanian. His current term runs through 2026.

RoySmith

<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=RoySmith>

Roy Smith has been editing Wikipedia since 2004. He has been an admin on English Wikipedia since 2005 and a checkuser since 2021. Previously an active sockpuppet hunter, as of late 2023, he has dialed that back to concentrate more on content creation. He is looking forward to working on the Ombuds Commission and meeting new colleagues from other wiki projects. His term on OC runs through 2026.

Steward-Observer edit

The Steward-Observer serves as a liaison between the Ombuds Commission and the Stewards. The Steward-Observer is a non-voting, advisory role. The Steward-Observer was nominated by the Stewards and is appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation to a one-year term. This year's Steward-Observer is…

Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Vermont>

Vermont (they/them) has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2016. They have been a steward since February 2022, and previously a global sysop and rollbacker. Vermont is an administrator and checkuser on Meta-Wiki and the Simple English Wikipedia, and formerly volunteered on the UCoC Phase 2 and Revisions drafting committees. They served as Steward-Observer for the Ombuds Commission in 2023-24 as well. Vermont's term as Steward-Observer expires in 2025.

Departing members edit

Please join me in thanking the following volunteers who are leaving OC, who have given substantially of their time to serve the commission:

JJMC89 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=JJMC89>

JJMC89 has been contributing to Wikimedia projects since 2015. He is primarily active on the English Wikipedia, where he has more than 300,000 edits and is an administrator and bot operator, and Commons. He also serves as a tool administrator on UTRS. He speaks English. He has been on the Ombuds Commission since 2021.

Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 09:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Floating or sidebar toolbar for Wikisource proofreading edit

This is a user comfort question. I am searching for a solution to access the advanced elements of the fixed toolbar. For those who don't edit is WS, this means that scrolling down the long textarea hides the toolbar. I looked at Help:User style/floating quickbar, but haven't tried it because I need an opinion if it's usable in the current environment.—Ineuw (talk) 12:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WikiLiterature edit

I recently thought of a wiki which I name WikiLiterature. It is similar to Wikisource, but literary works here are community-driven. See the article for more information. FreedomWarWiki (talk) 14:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for global bot flag for CommonsDelinker edit

Hello!

This is a notification to let you know that a new request for the global bot flag for CommonsDelinker has been started.

Please note that the request will remain open for 14 days starting today. You can leave a comment or opinion on the relevant page!

Best regards --Superpes15 (talk)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote edit

You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. Please help translate to your language

Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Text alignment edit

Hello, all Wikimedia projects now have the text aligned to the left (except Arabic and Hebrew I guess). It looks absolutely horrendous, especially on mobile browsers. Please put it back to justified. NaBUru38 (talk) 13:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Declined tasks on phabricator edit

Hello. I could not found a help desk on phabricator so i'm writing in here. If a phabricator task is closed as declined, but i found the given reason to decline was wrong or no reason was given, and i want to re-open the task with proving the decline reason is wrong, what i can do? Must i change the status with giving the reason, or start a new task with the same topic? RuzDD (talk) 23:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RuzDD you certainly would not open a new identical task. First you should review mw:Phabricator etiquette and mw:Bug management/Bug report life cycle. Depending on what the task is about, it certainly will be a stronger case if you are going to claim it and write a patch. — xaosflux Talk 00:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, thanks for links, i will read these @Xaosflux. If you need to know, the task that caused me to ask this is T28269. By the way, why i can't see who was closed the task? RuzDD (talk) 00:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Xaosflux I read them but i have some doubts. Is writing some code that will help to fixing the task a valid reason to increase priority to High? And, should i do something else with reopening the task after proving the reason to decline is wrong? RuzDD (talk) 01:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@RuzDD that task is so old that it was imported as a reference from Bugzilla bz26269. A good place to discuss this concept would be commons:Commons:Village pump/Proposals, gain community support for the task first. — xaosflux Talk 10:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's a good idea, thanks. RuzDD (talk) 22:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]