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Training on using the Wiki ApplicationsEdit

I've just re-donated to support Wikipedia for another year. But, I think I only scratch the surface of using it and the other related Wiki offerings. How can I get training (e.g. videos) on how to use all of the offerings? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.132.217.186 (talk) 14:38, 22 September 2022‎

Translation of the Wikimedia Foundation wiki and other sitesEdit

Hello, could you please let me know how to go about translating the sidebar on the Wikimedia Governance wiki?[1] I can't find neither any equivalent to {{edit request}} there nor any discussion site except for this one. Could you also please let me know where to translate the official site and similar sites? Thank you in advance. --Eleassar my talk 16:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I asked the same question a while ago and was told it’s done on translatewiki.net and we’ll need to set up a separate account [ETA: I don’t know how to translate the official site or similar sites.] — Al12si (talk) 02:35, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Al12si. I have been very active on translatewiki.net and afaik these messages are not available there. For example, I can't find the message for "Official website" or for "Questions for Wikimedia?" Please let me know if I am mistaken (for example, by providing a link). --TadejM my talk 02:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
@GVarnum-WMF: --Nintendofan885 (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Status of moverEdit

I have seen that on various wikipedias there is the possibility of assigning the status of mover to some users . If we wanted it, would it be possible to obtain this also for the Lombard-language Wiktionary (lmo.wiktionary.org)? Gat lombard (talk) 14:47, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gat lombard it's possible, what is the issue that lmowikt is trying to solve? Note, all autoconfirmed users on lmowikt may already move an entry. Projects with custom groups often have a special workflow about redirects that they need to manage. — xaosflux Talk 01:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@Xaosflux It was a question in order to understand if it is possible to assign the status of mover to a user who is able to do this but does not yet have the skills to be an administrator. It is true that autoconfirmed users can move entries, but they cannot do so by overwriting and without leaving a redirect.--Gat lombard (talk) 08:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@Xaosflux In any case how would it be possible since currently the "mover" group does not exist in https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:UtentiAtivi --Gat lombard (talk) 08:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@Gat lombard based on wikt:lmo:Special:Statìstegh, a request for a special group is likely to be declined as that community is too small. It is technically possible. First lmowikt would need to have a community discussion to establish a consensus that it is needed, and define how that project will manage it; then request a configuration customization request such as this one: phab:T212662. — xaosflux Talk 11:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@Xaosflux We are discussing the matter here.
Our Wiktionary has no bureaucrats. If approved, who would assign the status of mover? Would he/she be a meta steward as well as for sysops?--Gat lombard (talk) 20:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
@Gat lombard that would be up to the community, normally groups like that are managed by admins -- but as lmowikt also has only 1 (temporary) admin this also speaks to the "too small" situation. — xaosflux Talk 20:48, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

The Unblock Ticket Request System is brokenEdit

The Unblock Ticket Request System claims that it's being spammed with requests but this incorrect as I've not been able to send any requests and no one else is on my IP address . B4531826 (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

If you think there is a bug with the UTRS system you can report it here. — xaosflux Talk 17:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of ConductEdit

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Hello all,

In mid-January 2023, the Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct will undergo a second community-wide ratification vote. This follows the March 2022 vote, which resulted in a majority of voters supporting the Enforcement Guidelines. During the vote, participants helped highlight important community concerns. The Board’s Community Affairs Committee requested that these areas of concern be reviewed.

The volunteer-led Revisions Committee worked hard reviewing community input and making changes. They updated areas of concern, such as training and affirmation requirements, privacy and transparency in the process, and readability and translatability of the document itself.

The revised Enforcement Guidelines can be viewed here, and a comparison of changes can be found here.

How to vote?

Beginning January 17, 2023, voting will be open. This page on Meta-wiki outlines information on how to vote using SecurePoll.

Who can vote?

The eligibility requirements for this vote are the same as for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees elections. See the voter information page for more details about voter eligibility. If you are an eligible voter, you can use your Wikimedia account to access the voting server.

What happens after the vote?

Votes will be scrutinized by an independent group of volunteers, and the results will be published on Wikimedia-l, the Movement Strategy Forum, Diff and on Meta-wiki. Voters will again be able to vote and share concerns they have about the guidelines. The Board of Trustees will look at the levels of support and concerns raised as they look at how the Enforcement Guidelines should be ratified or developed further.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 05:13, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

This maybe worth a look....Edit

These may be of interest to WMF users. Osken2028w (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Voting now open on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of ConductEdit

Hello all,

The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is now open! Voting will be open for two weeks and will close at 23:59 UTC on January 31, 2023. Please visit the voter information page on Meta-wiki for voter eligibility information and details on how to vote.

For more details on the Enforcement Guidelines and the voting process, see our previous message.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is still open. If you would like to learn more about them, there is a Diff blog post you can read.
On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,
JPBeland-WMF (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Help with old dumpsEdit

Hi! I have been working a research project that involves me downloading the latest dump every month from several projects — enwiktionary, eswiktionary, frwiktionary, dewiktionary, enwikiquote, eswikiquote, frwikiquote, dewikiquote, enwikibooks, eswikibooks, frwikibooks, and dewikibooks. I have been working on this for about two years, but I have been busy for a few months and didn’t have the time to download them immediately, but I thought that I could just download them later.

Today, I was finally ready to download them, when I noticed that the dumps from June and July are missing. I have looked all around the internet, but I have not found a solution.

Can any of you help? The last available username (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@The last available username try archive.org? For example https://web.archive.org/web/20220801023527/https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/20220720/ ? — xaosflux Talk 12:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
@Xaosflux Thanks very much! This helps me a lot and is even on the day I was looking for, but this unfortunately doesn't work for the other projects. The last available username (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
@The last available username try the mirror at your.org, just change the name in the url, example: https://dumps.wikimedia.your.org/frwikibooksxaosflux Talk 16:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
@Xaosflux Thanks so much!!! You saved me! How do you find that and what is your.org? The last available username (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
@The last available username there is a list of some known mirrors at Mirroring Wikimedia project XML dumps. — xaosflux Talk 16:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

talk:Deletionism and other related talk pagesEdit

Most of the discussion on these talk pages seem to just be FORUMy comments and complaints and nothing about improving the page (besides people who think they're on Wikipedia). Virtually nothing productive has happened on these talk pages, and I don't see much maintenance or moderation on these pages. Should we do something about the junk on these talk pages? 137a (talk) 15:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Voting closes soon on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of ConductEdit

Hello all,

Voting closes on the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines in three days at 23.59 UTC on January 31, 2023. Please visit the voter information page on Meta-wiki for voter eligibility information and details on how to vote. More information on the Enforcement Guidelines and the voting process is available in this previous message.

Vote here

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 21:34, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspicious user contributing to several small wikisEdit

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this user contributed large volumes of texts to a large number of pages in Zhuang languages, Uyghur language, Tibetic language, Hakka language, Eastern Min, Gan language...

frankly, i dont think a person fluent in all these distant languages exist, so this looks like Scots_Wikipedia#Controversy.

also, i cant find a page for reporting this kind of suspicious activity. RZuo (talk) 09:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Chatbots have hit critical mass and are creating copyright issuesEdit

No longer just for conversation...

Chatbots can now write content amazingly well, in a striking variety of formats and styles, following even complex instructions from users...

...but who owns the copyrights to what they write?

And can the generated content legally be placed under open license by users?

ChatGPT has gone viral, is taking the Web by storm, and is dominating tech news. What ChatGPT can do is mind blowing. The output from chatbots like ChatGPT have already started showing up on English Wikipedia. See w:Talk:Artwork title#Use of ChatGPT and w:Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#More detected AI-generated papers.

The English Wikipedia is currently in a vigorous debate on what to do about chatbots (also known as large language models, or LLMs) including a lengthy debate about copyrights at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Copyright status. There is also a policy draft being developed called w:Wikipedia:Large language models, with copyrights being discussed on its talk page.

As chatbot use is spreading like wildfire, and their output will be showing up on a wide range of Wikimedia projects, this is something you should become familiar with. The Transhumanist (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

P.S.: Chatbots can also be used for vandalism, hoaxes, pushing POVs, and generating misinformation on a scale hitherto undreamt of. And they have the bizarre tendency to make things up, including source references. We are going to need automated identification tools, and fast. The Transhumanist (talk) 12:32, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Last call to vote on revised UCoC enforcement guidelines!Edit

Hi all,

A friendly and final reminder that the voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines closes tomorrow, Tuesday, 31 January at 23:59:59 UTC.

The UCoC supports Wikimedia’s equity objectives and commitment to ensuring a welcoming, diverse movement, and it applies to all members of our communities. Voting is an opportunity for you to be a part of deciding how we uphold this commitment to our community and each other!

To vote, visit the voter information page on Meta-wiki, which outlines how to participate using SecurePoll.

Many thanks for your interest and participation in the UCoC!

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 21:22, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello all,
The vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is now closed. The results will now be counted and scrutinized to ensure that only eligible votes are included. Results will be published on Meta and other movement forums as soon as they become available, as well as information on future steps. Thank you to all who participated in the voting process, and who have contributed to the drafting of Guidelines.
On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,
JPBeland-WMF (talk) 21:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)