Meta:Babel/Archives/2010-11

Global user account

Hi. Users are now able to create a "global account" where all of it could be accessed via a single login. I was wondering if there could be a way where these users with a global account could have a global userpage?

We could (could we?) enable cross-wiki redirects of "User:" namespaces, but obviously redirecting a reader to another wiki is not that of a good idea.

So, how about enabling cross-wiki transclusion of userpages (in the "User:" namespace)? Would that be possible? User can then create their userpage on their main wiki, and maybe substitute the whole page (could even be a subpage with a universal title like "/GlobalUserpage") to other wikis. And for any technical reasons, we could also restrict GlobalUserpage to originate from a particular wiki, say Meta. Comments? Rehman 04:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

bugzilla:16575. --Nemo 11:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

That bug is marked as a dupe of bugzilla:4547, which is about transcluding templates across wikis, and doesn't cover my proposal. Rehman 14:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

It isn't true. Please, read discussions and links (there are many of them). --Nemo 20:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Problem with the way a language version is displayed in interlanguage links

Pennsylvania Dutch (pdc) is a language spoken in some parts of the United States, and is most closely related to the German dialect Palatinate German (pfl). The Pennsylvania Dutch Wikipedia is referring to its own language as "Deitsch". Now that there is also a Palatinate German Wikipedia, we have the following confusing situation with interwiki links on the Palatinate German Wikipedia:

• "Deutsch", the standard German word for "German", links to the standard German version of a page.
• "Deitsch", the Palatinate German word for "German", links the version in the obscure minority language Pennsylvania Dutch.

This has the following disadvantages:

• If an article in the Palatinate German Wikipedia is incomplete, readers will usually be most interested in the standard German version. Many of them will erroneously click on "Deitsch".
• Readers of the Palatinate German Wikipedia are likely to be interested in the Pennsylvania Dutch article, because the two languages are mutually comprehensible to a very large degree, the major difference being the huge amount of English loanwords in Pennsylvania Dutch. If it is hidden under the indistinctive designation "Deitsch", which they will read as "standard German", they are unlikely to find it, however.

Readers will likely remain confused even after they have learned about the situation. I think the simplest solution would be to change the self-designation for pdc in the interface from "Deitsch" to "Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch", which is also the redirect target of the "Deitsch" article on pdc. I don't know if there is another solution, or who to ask for help. I am confused by the Meta site. If I am asking in the wrong place, please direct me to a better place. Hans Adler 09:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think that the "official local name" of the language is defined in MediaWiki itself, and this should be the language shown in interwikis; anyway, I think that you could ask to both local communities which name they prefer and if there's an agreement fil a request to implement it in bugzilla:. Currently, {{#language:pfl}}, {{#language:pdc}} gives Pälzisch, Deitsch. Are those names correct? --Nemo 11:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I also does not see any confusing about that. The only thing is that the local language for pfl should be Pälzisch instead of Pfälzisch as requested by bugzilla:25871. Pfälzisch is the high german name for that dialect. Xqt 08:19, 17 November 2010 (UTC)