Grants talk:Programs/Wikimedia Research Fund/Wikipedia and Beyond: Open Education for an Equitable Future

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Tochiprecious in topic Feedback from Tochiprecious (talk)

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  1. In what ways do you think this research can support you or other members of the Wikimedia communities in the work that you do on the Wikimedia projects?
  2. What advice do you have for the authors to improve their research or the impact of their research? (We encourage you to share with the authors projects or initiatives that you think can benefit from the result of their research. This can help the authors connect their work with ongoing projects in the early stages of their research.)
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Now the the world become small village And in the digital environment the information and knowledge must be open access Very import open education issue We hope give us chance as a team work to done research about open education in Sudanes school Mutasim Elmahadi (talk) 04:50, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your feedback @Mutasim Elmahadi - I am happy to report that the we have secured a contract for this book with MIT Press, and that the contract also allows for the book to be published open access. We will be conducting a number of interviews as part of the research methods for the project, additionally, and would love to be able to include you in our list of interviewees to learn more about the Sudanese context. Thank you again for your comments. Matthewvetter (talk) 21:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Feedback from Tochiprecious (talk) edit

1. In what ways do you think this research can support you or other members of the Wikimedia communities in the work that you do on the Wikimedia projects?

As someone from Africa, I feel this would serve as a guide for us to further understand and advance in open education.

2. What advice do you have for the authors to improve their research or the impact of their research? (We encourage you to share with the authors projects or initiatives that you think can benefit from the result of their research. This can help the authors connect their work with ongoing projects in the early stages of their research.)

I'm glad they started out on this path. My only recommendation would be to make it inclusive and not just written from a single perspective.

3. Please share any other feedback about this proposal that you think the Research Fund Committee should consider below.

Dr. Mathew Vetter is someone who has been consistently teaching his students about open education which I've been opportuned to attend one of the sessions and share my story. I greatly recommend this proposal as I've been looking forward to reading the outcomes.

--Tochiprecious (talk) 12:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dear @Tochiprecious - thank you so much for your comments. Your recommendation about making the research more inclusive is something important to me as well. When we solicited ideas from the community about possible interviewees, we received a number of responses that named individuals doing work at the intersection of Wikimedia and Education all over the world (many of them through the Reading Wikipedia in the Classroom program). We very much plan to follow up with these prospects in the interview phase of the research. I also met a number of individuals when I participated in the Reading Wikipedia in the Classroom Training of the Trainers program this past fall, and intend to leverage that network as well to create a book that speaks to global exigences as much as possible. Would love to connect with you for an interview if you are available. - Matthewvetter (talk) 21:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello Dr @Matthewvetter, glad to hear that. I'm happy to be interviewed and support in anyway I can.
Well-done! Tochiprecious (talk) 05:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Feedback from Cbazerman (talk) edit

1. In what ways do you think this research can support you or other members of the Wikimedia communities in the work that you do on the Wikimedia projects?

This is a great project that will help people in the writing education community (many of whom already use wikipedia assignments) to engage their students more deeply in writing for wikipedia. Thus work helps them understand what constitutes verifiable knowledge and the social processes by which knowledge gets reviewed and open to communal judgment

2. What advice do you have for the authors to improve their research or the impact of their research? (We encourage you to share with the authors projects or initiatives that you think can benefit from the result of their research. This can help the authors connect their work with ongoing projects in the early stages of their research.)

Dr. Vetter has deep experience in this area and I trust his judgment on this topic.

3. Please share any other feedback about this proposal that you think the Research Fund Committee should consider below.

. Vetter is highly committed, a hard worker, and very smart. He is deeply committed to wikimedia related projects.

--Cbazerman (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your support @Cbazerman. This research is exciting to me because not only will it help to solidify Wikipedia-based education practices but also move us beyond thinking ONLY of Wikipedia to examine how other core free-knowledge projects (think Wikidata, WikiSource, and Wikimedia Commons) can contribute massive educational value. Individual interviews and focus groups with various Wikimedia/education experts will also provide recommendations and opportunities for thinking through open education practices related to these projects. I would love to be able to share some early drafts with you if you're up for it. Matthewvetter (talk) 21:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Feedback from 144.80.88.222 edit

1. In what ways do you think this research can support you or other members of the Wikimedia communities in the work that you do on the Wikimedia projects?

As a composition instructor, I often hear that students lack knowledge of how Wikipedia works and why its articles are credible. I believe this book will help educators to broaden their horizons and help them implement Wikipedia into their writing courses. I am particularly interested in practical ways of implementing Wikipedia editing into first-year composition courses, ESL courses for multilingual speakers, and technical writing courses.

2. What advice do you have for the authors to improve their research or the impact of their research? (We encourage you to share with the authors projects or initiatives that you think can benefit from the result of their research. This can help the authors connect their work with ongoing projects in the early stages of their research.)

I believe the authors could benefit from engaging the Gen Z population in the focus groups to receive their perspective on this project.

3. Please share any other feedback about this proposal that you think the Research Fund Committee should consider below.

Dr. Vetter and his co-author are well-known advocates for Wikipedia studies in the academia. I have learned a great deal from reading the work of Dr. Vetter and believe that this grant will be a worthwhile investment into the dissemination of the Wikipedia's pillars, promotion of Wikipedia's conventions, and acceptance of Wikipedia as a source of credbile and veriafiable knowledge that students and educators can use to their adventage.

--144.80.88.222 14:38, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello and thank you for your comments! Your recommendations related to composition, ESL for multilingual speakers, and technical writing are well-received and I have added them to my notes. I also really appreciated your suggestion about the focus group reseach (to include representations of Gen Z). Our research design for interviews and focus groups involves specialists engaged in working at the intersection of Wikimedia and education, which may not include Gen Z, but I am doing additional research on students' and learning outcomes that will meet this need. Thank you for making this recommendation. Matthewvetter (talk) 21:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Feedback from Etherfire (talk) edit

1. In what ways do you think this research can support you or other members of the Wikimedia communities in the work that you do on the Wikimedia projects?

More resources for open education, particularly ones that situate Wikipedia within other OER projects, is essential to help preserve and further increase the quality of these projects. As someone who has used Wikipedia to introduce students to these issues, I find that a lot of work needs to be done to demonstrate to them that there is a significant and legitimate series of operations going on within this resource. A text like this could be essential for bridging some of that material. In my teaching, I have a specific and somewhat idiosyncratic advanced editing project I use with my advanced undergraduates, but I'd like to develop a course complimenting that assignment with more traditional Wikipedia tasks such as are described by Vetter and McDowell. I'd love to use this text to frame out that course.

2. What advice do you have for the authors to improve their research or the impact of their research? (We encourage you to share with the authors projects or initiatives that you think can benefit from the result of their research. This can help the authors connect their work with ongoing projects in the early stages of their research.)

It's looking good. I think that as the book fleshes out, they'll want to have a nice balance of informational accounts of the issues involved and the specific tasks and problems that one might address (especially if it is geared towards students and practitioners). There are indications here that they will have those kinds of sections and I imagine there will be more as the text develops.

3. Please share any other feedback about this proposal that you think the Research Fund Committee should consider below.

I've followed Vetter and McDowell's work for a while, and you couldn't have a better team of researchers to write this book. I've particularly found it essential in my own endeavors in teaching with Wikipedia. Having this text available as open access is also essential, and a great use of the funds.

--Etherfire (talk) 17:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you @Etherfire for these comments. I would love to talk to you in more length about this project at some point. The Wikipedia-based teaching you have done at the advanced undergraduate level, to me, shows real promise in sketching out a vertical curriculum for postsecondary Wikipedia-based education. There's nothing quite like this that I know of at the moment. Of course, the research project at hand will be somewhat more introductory given the fact that we are trying to "zoom out" to put various Wikimedia projects alongside each other. Your comments in response to the second question are important and well-received. Balancing the more educational content was what the MIT Press reviewers were also interested in - which led us to name and incorporate the "Evidence-Based Open Educational Practices" or EBOEPs throughout the book. These sections (titles below) will be more directly focused on particular tasks and problems that can be engaged in the educational context.
EBOEP 1: Editing a Wikipedia Article on Marginalized Topic... [10pp.]
EBOEP 2: Building and Critically Analyzing Wikidata Queries...[10pp.]
EBOEP 3: Digitizing Texts in Wikisource...[10pp.]
EBOEP 4: Improving Wikipedia Articles with Multimedia Uploads...[10pp.]
Thanks again for your support and important feedback! Matthewvetter (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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