Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Search and Categories/Sort pages with Chinese Japanese or Korean titles in a more useful order/Proposal/en

  • Problem: In category pages, pages with titles that begin with a kanji are currently sorted in Unicode order and grouped by the first character in the title. This is not a traditional way to sort and group things in CJK languages, and it’s not very helpful because Unicode order is opaque and does not correspond to anything in any CJK language.
  • Proposed solution: Titles that begin with a kanji should be grouped the traditional way, by stroke count (e.g., the kTotalStrokes field in Unihan_IRGSources.txt if using Unicode 14), then within any stroke count grouping, sorted by Kangxi radical order (e.g., the integer part of the kRSKangXi field in Unihan_RadicalStrokeCounts.txt), any ambiguities that remain can be kept in Unicode order.
  • Who would benefit: native CJK readers who use category pages
  • More comments: I read a proposal to sort these by pronunciation, but that would not work because every kanji is pronounced differently in different languages (and there can be more than one pronunciation even within a single language), so any pronunciation chosen would privilege one language over all others.
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  • Proposer: Al12si (talk) 21:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]