Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Translation/Improve translation tool: Fixed (editable) per language mapping of section titles

Improve translation tool: Fixed (editable) per language mapping of section titles

  • Problem: When tranlating from one language to another, the section titles often either get translated, or they remain untranslated. Many Wikis have style guides what an article sholud look like, including specific section titles. In Simple English, we expect that the 'External Links' be called 'Other websites', or that 'Related pages' be called 'See also'. Similar requirements exist in other languages.
  • Proposed solution: Add a 'dictionary'/'mapping' containing these sections, when translating from one language to another. So, when translating, the tool automatically proposed 'Other Websites' instead of 'External links'. The question remains if there's one 'dictionary', and at the first translation the translator gets a copy he/she can adapt, or have one dictionary per language pair that specific users (based on a privilege) can edit.
  • Who would benefit: Translators
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Wo1wdedl1tn9thki
  • Proposer: Eptalon (talk) 21:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Sounds like a good idea. I can see this being very beneficial to translators who are new to ContentTranslation. However, I'd say the specific implementation should be just as a ContentTranslation warning (like the ones we often see in the right sidebar if something goes wrong) suggesting the most common/agreed-upon translation.

    It should also give lots of lee-way; a section title in one topic can be ambiguous if translated the same way in another topic, even if the literal/exact translation doesn't necessarily differ. Maybe just provide a list of viable translations, or use the categories to find where exactly in the semantic field a term used in an article is in. Xn00bit (talk) 19:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Right; I just reread your proposal and realized that you specified specific section titles mentioned in style guides, not free-form section titles. In that case, I agree unequivocally. I'm starting to think that it can even be implemented like a template, so when the community decides to change something, it changes the entire wiki instead of having to do it manually. Xn00bit (talk) 19:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Doesn't seem quite feasible after literally millions of instances of specific section headings exist on the biggest wikis. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
22:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Voting

  •   Support Libcub (talk) 23:32, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Raos10 (talk) 02:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Thingofme (talk) 02:50, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support As someone who has to rename "The References" to "Notes and references" in every single translation :) Exilexi (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support --Ciao • Bestoernesto 03:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support InterstateFive (talk) 20:39, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Ayumu Ozaki (talk) 03:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   SupportTheDJ (talkcontribs) 16:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support β16 - (talk) 09:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)