Problem: Allow donations from mobile apps distributed by Google / Apple.
Proposed solution: Donate to pay the fee from the mobile app via Google / Apple.
Who would benefit: Wikimedia Foundation, users without credit cards, especially Japanese
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Proposer: Sazanamiya (talk) 01:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
The only issue I see with allowing it to go through something like Google or Apple Pay is that I think Google might take a percentage of the money for themself. I could be wrong since I don't usually use stuff like this, but it's something I have heard of existing. Blaze Wolf (talk) 14:20, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
That eliminates half of the issue I presented with this solution. Like I said, I don't really use either of them so I wouldn't know. Blaze Wolf (talk) 18:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Isn't it also possible to donate through Amazon Pay, and I suppose Amazon Pay Gift Cards are available in Japanese convenience store, even to those without credit cards? Also, I have noticed that, after donation, in donor survey, there's a question asking which payment method is the more popular one in your country, or methods that you're more willing to donate your money via. I think it is up to WMF to interpret those result and decide which to be implemented? C933103 (talk) 22:27, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
There is a RFC about accepting the cryptocurrency in donations. You can discuss this. Thingofme (talk) 09:44, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
日本の法律は海外送金を大きく制限しています。合法的な海外送金のひとつがモバイルアプリを経由する方法です。 Sazanamiya (talk) 13:12, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi Sazanamiya, thanks very much for the suggestion. The good news is that you can already donate from the apps. On Android there is a "Donate" option in the More menu on the Home/Explore page. On iOS it is "Support Wikipedia" in the Settings page.
For iOS we do support Apple Pay, but only in certain countries right now. It should be rolling out to others, including Japan, within the next few weeks. Google Pay is also something the fundraising team is planning to look into this year. And https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give has a list of various other donation methods that are available. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
@Peter: In the iOS app, tapping Support Wikipedia links me out to donate.wikimedia.org in Safari, where I could use my credit card. I think this wish is about allowing people to donate via an “in-app purchase”, to donate from funds they already have loaded on their Apple account? ⁓ Pelagic (talk) 23:41, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
You might need some market research to determine whether the “In-App Purchases” annotation in the App Store would deter some users from downloading the app. Pelagic (talk) 00:23, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
@Pelagic Okay thanks, in-app purchases would indeed be a different thing and sounds like it would need more work and collaboration with the app teams. I'll pass this wish on to our payments specialists. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
ギフトカーで寄付できますか？--Sazanamiya (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
(translation: Can I donate with a gift card?) Unfortunately I think these gift cards can only be spent on Apple's own stores and products. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 12:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Update: if you have a supported device it is now possible to donate using Apple Pay in most countries (including Japan) through https://donate.wikimedia.org, and we'll also be including Apple Pay in upcoming fundraising banners. Google Pay is hopefully coming later this year as well. In-app payments remain something that we need to assess more. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 17:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Voting
SupportGlenn984 (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Oppose This should be handled by the Donations team, rather than using a CW slot (though it's a good idea generally) Nosebagbear (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Support Glenn984 (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Oppose This should be handled by the Donations team, rather than using a CW slot (though it's a good idea generally) Nosebagbear (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
