Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Citations/Full reference in popup on hover over inline citations

Full reference in popup on hover over inline citations

  • Problem: Parts of this proposal are already there, but are not working (properly). When harvard citations are used (link to author and page number, which links to full reference further below) , the popup window on hover over inline citations shows only the author and page number. Full reference with clickable title in the popup would be much better as one would not need to scroll back upon actually checking or following the reference. Harvard style citations may be good for old-fashioned books (to save paper), but are completely unnecessary on the web. Two gadgets, Reference Tooltips and Navigation popups help a bit, but they clash with another popup that cannot be disabled, and are just partial solutions because they are page number (that's now sometimes added with the help of en:Template:Rp) agnostic.
  • Who would benefit: Every reader interested in checking the references and following links therein; especially important for online references
  • Proposed solution: There should be one reference per source, and if page numbers (chapter numbers, chapter titles) are to be given, the inline citation up in the text should contain it (hidden, until hovered?). When hovered, a popup window should display the whole reference, clickable, with all necessary information, page number relevant for that inline citation instance included. User should never need to scroll down, and back up, because there's nothing to keep track of these positions.
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  • Proposer: Ponor (talk) 04:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

Seconded. Seeing the full reference on pop-up is much more user friendly than seeing a part reference, then having to click and see the full reference. --// Lollipoplollipoplollipop :: talk 06:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  • The WMDE book referencing will support this when it rolls out. It was held up by the pandemic as I understand it and should be coming Soon. (I've been saying that a while now....) --Izno (talk) 18:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
    • I hope this soon is soon enough. But is this only about how the references would be formatted, or does it include inline pop-ups with all the information from the reference (+page/chapter/section information) as well? Web format is rich enough so we should never need to scroll up and down (no bookmarks, remember) to follow a citation. Ponor (talk) 05:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
      • The intent is all the data last I checked. --Izno (talk) 05:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

A possible greater extension of this would be to place the references list in a right hand panel that auto-scrolls to the closest or most recently clicked reference. Similar to the format used by some academic journals (E.g. journals published by Annual Reviews and Biomed Central). This particularly suits WP's strong focus on sources. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 09:58, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Voting

  •   Support ──post by kenny2wiki  Talk  Contribs  02:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support // Lollipoplollipoplollipop :: talk 03:17, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support welcome this - and the idea of column view of references (in long articles would be great for re-use and avoid risk of duplicating citations by new editors Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:17, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Yes! It's frustrating when you expect to see the full reference but you actually have to scroll down and hunt for it. Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 18:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support JPxG (talk) 05:47, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Libcub (talk) 18:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Charlie Smith FDTB (talk) 22:59, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK   ▎enWiki 15:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Meiræ 21:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support T8612 (talk) 20:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Rdyornot (talk) 22:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Wikibenchris (talk) 08:49, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Baum64 (talk) 11:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Nelson Ricardo (talk) 11:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support i agree with that Alinabil1993 (talk) 19:25, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Perhaps, this is better done at individual wiki level - each has their own citation templates, so what's done for en: won't work elsewhere. Retired electrician (talk) 20:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Stephan Hense (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Kku (talk) 07:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Kocgs (talk) 20:36, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Nadzik (talk) 12:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support :JarrahTree (talk) 09:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support EEMIV (talk) 15:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)