Wikivoyage/Lounge/Archive/2017-04

Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017/Sources/Russian Wikivoyage

This is too late (my apologies for forgetting posting here). just wanted to lat everybody know that at the Russian Wikivoyage we produced a joint vision for the strategy exercise, available at the link above. Step 1 of the consultations is closed, but good ideas are always welcome anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Maps changes

Hello,

I am Paul Norman, a contractor working with the Maps team on Discovery at improving the Wikimedia map styles, infrastructure, and other map-related tasks. My background is as an OpenStreetMap developer, and I am a maintainer of the OpenStreetMap Carto style, the default on osm.org, as well as many other components in a standard OSM map rendering setup.

As part of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153282 a new style for Wikimedia maps is being developed, and I've loaded the whole planet on one of my servers as a test and demo.

The demo is available at http://legolas.paulnorman.ca:6789/, and through "Compare" on the right-hand side of the interface you can compare it with the current Wikimedia style, OpenStreetMap Carto, and lots of others. Some other things to be aware of when comparing are:

• The map is displayed with Kosmtik, a design tool with minimal caching, and it might be restarted while I'm working on it

• Even though the server is faster than production, it may appear slower because it doesn't have everything cached

• The OSM data on the server is normally within a day of the latest data

Some of the more noticeable style changes are

• Road colours are different, helping view the overall layout of the city

• There are fewer cases of subtly different shades of green.

• Bridges and multi-level road constructions are now handled properly, which should make some areas easier to figure out

I am particularly interested in feedback on

• the overall colour darkness and intensity,

• which of city, region, and country labels are most important: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163503

Feedback is welcome, either through email, phab tickets, or by IRC in #wikimedia-interactive on freenode. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by pnorman (talk)

Just so others realize: Special:EmailUser/Pnorman. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah yes, this was based on the maps-l@ email, where email is obvious. I'll also be watching this. Pnorman (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

I have just had a quick look at the new map for Gateshead and for Edinburgh Old Town, and this is a good step forward. In these multilevel city centres the bridges are shown much better, but stairs between the levels are not clear (e.g. at lat=55.95116 | long=-3.18852). I do still prefer the Mapnik layer, mainly because a lot of things of interest are labelled - museums, hotels, building numbers in some streets etc. AlasdairW (talk) 22:26, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

@AlasdairW: voy:en:Gateshead doesn't have a map. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:48, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

It has a full page map if you click on the map icon at the right above the banner photo, which I used to compare with the demo. (I will add a mapframe to the article.) AlasdairW (talk) 22:55, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

@AlasdairW: Brilliant. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:00, 28 April 2017 (UTC)