This is a proposal for a new Wikimedia sister project.
Status of the proposal
Statusunder discussion
Details of the proposal
Project descriptionWikiphilosophers would become a platform for exploring, developing and exchanging countless philosophical ideas. For every topic that one could philosophize about, such as "knowledge," "love," "freedom" or "art", a lemma could be created. The intention is for users to then articulate their ideas by creating a subpage, like [[Knowledge/User S. Perquin]], and referencing this page within the lemma itself (including a very concise summary of what their idea is about). This way, readers and writers can arrive at new insights. This would be the ultimate knowledge project, because philosophy is the ultimate source of knowledge. Through philosophy, we learn more about ourselves and the world around us.
Is it a multilingual wiki?There could be many language versions, but English would be the basic language.
Potential number of languagesSee above.
Technical requirements
New features to requireNot applicable to my knowledge.

Proposed by edit

S. Perquin

About edit

According to Wikipedia:Getting to Philosophy, clicking on the first link in the main text of an English Wikipedia article, and then repeating the process for subsequent articles, usually leads to the Philosophy article. In my view, this is because the essence of every subject lies in philosophy. An encyclopedia like Wikipedia could never have existed if people in the past were never curious and asked questions about life. Therefore, I see philosophizing as a crucial way to gain knowledge and wisdom.

I actually find it quite strange that there isn't yet a wiki where philosophers and other thinkers can openly post their ideas and exchange thoughts with each other on a variety of different philosophical topics. That's why I came up with Wikiphilosophers. It should become a source of inspiration for anyone interested in deepening their understanding of the world, stimulating intellectual discussions and fostering a global dialogue on essential life questions.

If you wanted to learn about other people's ideas about what music is, you would search for "music" in the search bar and find a structured overview where philosophers and other thinkers explain their ideas about music. They can support their ideas with sources or the inspiration from which they derived them. These ideas can be discussed with each other through the "dialogue page", which is the discussion page of Wikiphilosophers' lemmas.

Goals edit

Here are some goals that can be pursued with Wikiphilosophers, but these can still be expanded or further defined.

  • Collecting numerous new insights of users regarding knowledge and wisdom.
  • Enabling interactive dialogues among users on various philosophical themes.
  • Reaching new insights by collectively reflecting on your ideas and writing about them yourself.

Four pillars edit

The following pillars are not yet finalized but should provide an idea of what Wikiphilosophers would revolve around.

  1. Wikiphilosophers is an online philosopedia. It forms a combination between a philosophical platform and an encyclopedia, essentially a collection of lemmas with information on various philosophical topics and themes.
  2. Every philosophy on Wikiphilosophers counts. As long as you have a serious vision that you've invested time and energy in, Wikiphilosophers provides a space for your philosophy.
  3. There is no censorship. We have a high degree of freedom of speech. This ends when people engage in discrimination or incite hatred or violence.
  4. We assume good intentions. We are optimistic about people and assume that they have good intentions when writing and discussing.

Demo edit

Click here for a demo of how the wiki could look.

Realizing this project edit

Feel free to brainstorm with me about this idea. There are countless things that still need to be thought about together. I can't do this alone. But remember: Rome wasn't built in a day. We still have a long way to go to build a great platform!

Please read the FAQ if you have any questions, or add your questions to the Forum!

Domain names edit

People interested edit

  •   Support As a philosopher, I find the idea of being able to read, write, and discuss interactively on a variety of philosophical themes incredibly interesting. It would be great to be able to read the philosophical ideas of others on each subject I'm interested in, through a clear and organized overview. S. Perquin (talk) 00:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Netgo123 (talk) 15:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Neutral I think such things should be integrated and tied to specific subjects / questions and it should be structured. Both of these are implemented in Kialo which is still quite unknown and in need of proper search engine indexing & contributors. I think it would be better to integrate Kialo with Wikimedia and vice versa (as already done to a small degree on Wikidata) and to work toward it becoming open content and open source. An issue with that where this proposal may be relevant is that claims there are supposed to be brief (and at best not original) but one often can elaborate on them via attaching notes and maybe links to Wikibooks. Wikibooks may already be suitable to incorporate what is proposed here so there could be a Wikibooks project for this. --Prototyperspective (talk) 12:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your suggestion! I just created an account on Kialo and am going to ask there if there is a need for integration with Wikimedia! Kind regards, S. Perquin (talk) 02:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would find it interesting if this project was started; I just find it unlikely that there will be a new project like this and there's these two big problems: who is going to actually read stuff on there? How is disagreement handled? People would merely rate things they do or don't immediately like and even if they put objections on the talk page, those are buried (&unseeable) and like the main post barely scrutinizable (that's in contrast to structured pages).
    This discussion has been moved to the Forum.
The example page shows a facilitation of separate 'camps' with different views; I think this is a prevalent problematic conceptualization/… that this would facilitate by how it structures things: rather there are different aspects to a usually common topic or question (like the example). At least wiki projects shouldn't always segregate people into 'camps' who believe this or that or 'follow' internals of this or that 'philosophy' – rather it should be about truth and reason more broadly / the points themselves; e.g. points of each of the 'camps' there would make sense and be true at once. I think it's better to integrate points into topics/questions and subtopics (here in long length). Your FAQ ideas about labels-feedback on pages could be done via templates. Maybe implement this as a WikiBooks project and if it actually gets both contributed to and used/read, then (re)consider making it a separate project. Could cont. on talk page. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:46, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, just seeing your comment now! Those 'camps' were just an example of what it might look like in practice. Could you explain what you meant by your idea of how it could be made better? Maybe it would indeed be smart to start with it in a Wikibooks project. Kind regards, S. Perquin (talk) 20:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]