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Hi! I'm from Spain, I can speak Catalan, Spanish and English, but I don't know which is the procedure that I need to follow to translate an article. Can I take any article that I like and translate it? Or I need to tell someone about it? I'm so confused! For example: one of the traduction of the week is The Yellow Wallpaper. I think that nobody traduced it to Catalan. Can I take the article and traduced? Or I need to say it to the META community? Thank you very much, and I'm sorry if I do something incorrect! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Montse 29 (talk) 13:22, 17 December 2016

Hi im from canada i know the question you are look.ing at . The article is archived, you have to access the archive then the article.Don't worry about whom so much as what you are looking for in the article.No! So, do you ask the wll lif it is yellow or do you look at the catalan like you aredy know it's color.? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meickaly Meilleur (talk) 23:10, 11 novembre 2018‎

Dúvidas

EuAlexandre Ice queria pedir aulas sobre como criar e editar um documento na wikipédia para eu poder partilhar algum conhecimento. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alexandre Ice (talk) 16:22, 11 September 2015

Editing translation of the week

Hello, I was wondering if anyone who knows Dutch to a high level would be willing to edit my translation. I would love to get some feedback in order to keep learning the finer points of this language. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seth.camara (talk) 02:39, 8 June 2017

en to ja: user block とupdate block （質問）; translation

部分ブロックについて、user block とupdate block の意味の違いがわかりません。同じものを指すでしょうか？ Federation ban の話題を理解したくて訳を再開しました。ご教示いただけるとありがたいです。 --Omotecho (talk) 02:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC) (en)Please further define "user block" vs "update block" as in above translation. --Omotecho (talk) 05:58, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Translatable wiki

Hello, on Neapolitan Wikisource several languages are used (Neapolitan, Italian, English) for discussion, templates documentation, and author pages. Moreover, initially we decided to write guidelines both in Italian and Neapolitan.

There is a (very) simple way to implement multi-language pages? Consider that we are for now less than 10 active users, and any complication (like translation administrators) would be a burden. On Commons there are several templates that visualise information in different languages: anyone that you advice we can use here? --Ruthven (msg) 08:23, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

The traditional way is Meta:Language select.

If you use subpages by language code and remember to set the correct language codes manually, you can rely on MediaWiki-provided facilities like Special:MyLanguage (which is in core). Certain templates can be used without Translate, like template:Languages.

The hope that "simpler" methods will let you save time and energies may prove to be an illusion. Nemo 08:45, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Naaah, simpler methods work well when they are well implemented. {{LangSelect}} and {{Ls}} seem to be what is needed here, if big chunks of text can be used. Using special admins to manage language translations looks like a waste of time for everybody. --Ruthven (msg) 10:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Temporary solution: "Translate does not update content page when saving units"

 obsolete documentation cleared —Eihel (talk) 23:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

—Eihel (talk) 01:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

@Eihel: There are some issues with this explanation:

• Grey tabs don’t mean the translation doesn’t exist. They simply mean they are not active at the moment. Compare https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Help:RevisionDelete&language=de (existing) with https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Help:RevisionDelete&language=bar (non-existing).
• The old editor is quite different from what you present: there is no “Publish changes…” button—the edit summary can be entered using the same form as the page text; and there is no need to enter dummy text, the “Publish changes” button is active immediately.
• But there is no need to use the wiki editor in the first place: the type-and-delete trick works right on the translate interface as well.
• And this workaround is not only for new pages: the bug is (was?) present on existing pages, where the same workaround applies.

—Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Tacsipacsi:,

• Thank you for the gray text: you are right.
• The problem was for each language that was not present in the language banner and you had to open the wiki page to display the Help page:RevisionDelete/xx (or any other page in the desired language). Whether or not translated messages did not change anything. This is also what you advised on Wikidata:Translators' noticeboard: you had to have a wiki page (on any editor). Of course, it was not necessary to translate, but you had to have the wiki page to have the language available in the banner (and therefore the entire translation page). I was facing this problem. I don't write that the problem was only about the new pages.

Apparently the problem seems solved on Mediawiki, Wikidata and Meta with the changes on gerrit. I recorded Turkish, Dutch and French versions without dummy modification on the wikis mentioned. I therefore request the deletion of image files. Thank you for the feedback. —Eihel (talk) 01:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Updated statistics should be auto-filled/-changed in each localized page

As translating Wikivoyage pages and if it contains ever changing figures such as page count versus languages, could we apply some wisdom and autofill the latest figures, so that translators need not manually c&p figures, if no meaningful update other than that? We would reduce chances of errors. But who decides /would be responsible when to tweak -> push for updating numbers? Is there any regular calendar as such to overhaul annual statistics reflected on each page? (I guess the sample is not the best.) --Omotecho (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

This is a wiki and we're volunteers, so no, of course there is nobody in charge nor a calendar exists to dictate the schedule of updates. The first number is already in a tvar, so it doesn't require updates to translations; you could add tvars for the other numbers as well.

For numbers which are used on many pages, another possibility is to use a template. Nemo 13:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

You are so right and thank you remembering we are volunteers, and that is why I wish to be immune to numerical errors. So a wonderful wisdom that tvar trick works on such instance as for how many wikivoyage pages per each local language; will try and figure out using it, and you suggested that we already have one figure in tvar tag in the above sample link.

I will look into Template maybe later, it is rather in the area I need more light... Anyhow, thankful for your generous support and wisdom, Arygatow. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 15:48, 25 October 2019 (UTC)