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Administrador en la Wikipedia en lingua franca nova

Hola Marco Aurelio,

Soy Chabi. En vistas a que el unico administrador de esta Wikipedia, Cgboere ha muerto, quisiera pedirte que por favor me dieras los derechos de administrador para hacerme cargo de la enciclopedia. --Chabi (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hola @Chabi. Lamento mucho la noticia. No hace ni un mes que el usuario me contactó en mi discusión de lfn.wikipedia pidiendo consejo sobre como buscar nuevos administradores debido a su enfermedad. No me esperaba este desenlace tan rápido :-( Si estás interesado en ser administrador, por favor presenta tu solicitud en lfn:Vicipedia:Voteria y tras una semana si no hay oposición, haz una solicitud en SRP. No podemos darte permisos directamente. Un saludo. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:53, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and a question

Hello Marco. Once again I've finished checking all the wikis on stewardy that haven't no activity policy. I've overlooked 3 wikis. After adding them to the list, mediawiki remains and I won't add those list. Is it necessary to add interface admins that have their own policy and haven't been active for more than 2 years to this list? Because, in my opinion these local policies are related to admin and bureaucrat rights generally. Thanks. --Uncitoyentalk 22:49, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks. I'd raise the question in the stewards' noticeboard to get more opinions. I think Openbk said he will add those later. If the wiki has a local inactivity policy for interface administrators I'd say the interface administrators of said wiki should not be reviewed in AAR. But if the local policy remains silent about interface-administrator activity, then I think they should be included. Personal opinion only though. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 23:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
I understood. Openbk will make the final list. I wish conveniences you and all stewards. Regards. --Uncitoyentalk 23:13, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Marco. You were the first person to notice the mistakes on the list. There are 6-7 incorrect data in the list I prepared and although some inactive admins are correct, their some edit/log dates are wrong. Since the last time all data was checked was January 9th, we did send an extra notification to Lourdes Cardenal on eswiktionary? Because the last log is from January 13, 2019. Is it necessary to withdraw this notification? Also Jcb on iawiki (January 6, 2019) in my list could stay on data page. As far as I understand from AAR's archives, all logs and contributions are made according to the date by the data was taken. Since all the inactive bureaucrats on Openbk's list are also inactive admins, there is no need to add them as a separate list? It is necessary to replace most of these datas with the Openbk list. If you want, I would like to compensate for a few mistakes I made in this data page with the list prepared by Openbk. Many stewards will also have to work to fix these mistakes. Since I have already compared the two lists completely, I know the differences. Regards. --Uncitoyentalk 22:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Some replies:
  • I withdrew the notifications for Lourdes Cardenal@es.wiktionary and LadyInGrey@es.wikibooks earlier today, and removed their names from the /Data subpage. They have log actions older than Jan. 6, 2021 so they are not inactive per policy.
  • I'd say set as date January 6, 2021, which is when Openbk got the data.
  • No need to have separate lists for inactive admins, inactive bureaucrats, etc. The policy looks for total inactivity so as long as the account has any edit or any admin action the account is active.
  • Feel free to update the Data page with Openbk's listing adding and removing as appropriate if you feel someone on the list shouldn't be, or vice versa.
Thanks for your efforts.
Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I copied Openbk's list and left only a few old datas lists per old data page. I didn't add OVasileva (WMF) on two separate wikis because she/she a temporary interface admin until July 2021. Since all bureaucrats are admins, I didn't add them. Special:Diff/20945199 Even from this edit, it becomes clear how different the Stewardry tool and Openbk's data are. I looked at stewardy for checkusers and oversighters. And I looked at the edits of checkusers and oversights on all wikis. But I haven't seen an inactive checkuser or oversight on any wiki for more than 2 years, with or without its own policy. Aren't they also removed by AAR? Or all checkers and oversights are very active on all wikis. I don't think there is anything missing in the last data page list. Otherwise, it may be useful for other stewards that you make a note of the relevant Spanish wikis on data page. I really apologize that you tired by me out on these two wikis. Now you can do jobs easily (thanks for Openbk) as stewards. Regards. --Uncitoyentalk 23:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Not all bureaucrats are necessarily admins, unfortunately. For CU/OS, per the global policy on those rights, it is 1 year of inactivity. I've been checking that offline. (It would be good to get a generated database report that automatically updates like Global renamers/Stats for CU/OS, and maybe GR/GS too). --Rschen7754 23:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I said for the bureaucrats who are on Openbk's list and on my list. Those bureaucrats are already on the inactive admin list. I looked for checkusers and oversighters for the last 1 year, but I couldn't find much. Maybe a more detailed scan may be required. --Uncitoyentalk 23:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Yesterday, I looked at the edits of all relevant users on these pages. CheckUser policy Oversight policy. I don't remember seeing a user who have last edit older than 1 year. If Openbk checked admins, bureaucrats and interface admins separately, I think he has already checked these other two rights. --Uncitoyentalk 00:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Every 6-12 months I make a note of the CU/OS that have not edited in several months so that they can be removed immediately once the 1 year mark is hit. We won't have another potential removal until March 25. --Rschen7754 01:31, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Marco. I guess you didn't remove Lourdes Cardenal on eswiktionary from the list. You excluded him from AAR. If this last mistake on the list is removed, everything will be fine. I didn't touch it because you did marked as a notified as a steward. I think it is better that a steward to removed him. Regards. --Uncitoyentalk 15:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Uncitoyen. Thanks for noticing that. I indeed withdrew the notification locally, but forgot to remove her from the list. I've done so now. Best regards. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

MassMessage timestamp

Hi, I'm reaching out to you because you've used Special:MassMessage here in the last couple of months. In phab:T270435 there's a discussion about how to be able to use MassMessage when using the new "Page to be sent as a message" function, which would require an easier way of adding a timestamp. My suggestion is to add it automatically, since MassMassages are going out to discussion pages of different kinds, and should be timestamped. If you have a workflow where you don't want your message to be timestamped, please let me now on my talk page or in the Phabricator ticket. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 14:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Johan (WMF). Thanks for your message. I cannot think right now of any workflow I've run into where I wanted to use MassMessage without putting a timestamp, but I shall think about it and if so, will add on the Task. Also, as an operator of a bot that archives old threads in Village Pumps and the like, timestamps are needed in order for my bot (and others doing the same task) to identify inactive threads and add them to the archive. I've had to fix this manually in several projects where MassMessage was being used without putting in a timestamp, and it's a pain. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Yes, bots archiving talk pages was the main reason why I considered this to be an important question. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 19:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Help request

Hello I know you are a steward and you can help me. I am blocked on commons for more than 1,6 years. I have messaged to user who blocked me that I have thought about my mistakes, read policy and learnt how to work. But this user doesn't want to hear me and I am still blocked. But in this 1,6 year I become one of the active and trusted user of kawiki, and I learnt how to work in all Wikimedia projects. Please help me if you can--ჯეო (talk) 14:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello @ჯეო. Unfortunately this is not a case where stewards can be of any assistance. Wikimedia Commons has its own community and its administrators, and decisions about blocking or unblocking users on Commons are handled only by them. I don't have any advice to offer, other than to try to follow c:Commons:Blocking_policy#Appealing_a_block to request an unblock. Your situation is a bit complicated right now: you cannot edit your talk page in Commons (they say you misused your talk page to make requests other than to request a review of your block) so you'll have to request an admin (different from Yann or Elcobbola) via email to restore your talk page access and then use it *only* to request an unblock there. Regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
OK, thanks for your response <3--ჯეო (talk) 16:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Administrator at the Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

Hello! A week has passed and nobody has voted against me. Could you please tell me when will I be granted administrator rights? --Chabi (talk) 10:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Hola @Chabi: He procedido a solicitar a mis compañeros que te den los permisos. Un saludo. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Muchas gracias --Chabi (talk) 09:44, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Otra vez: inicio centralizado de sesión

En Wikipedia en español, introduje mi nombre de usuario y mi contraseña, y en vez de iniciar inmediatamente mi sesión, apareció inicio de sesión centralizado, de manera que no abrió mi sesión, aunque haya introducido mi username y mi clave de usuario, hasta la segunda vez abrió, debería abrir desde la primera vez. Al respecto, Leoncastro me escribió mensaje al respecto en mi discusión, el más reciente, este es su mensaje más reciente. Desearía saber que significan las páginas que me enlazo Leoncastro, y sobretodo, porque no puedo ver el historial de dichas páginas, que están en el espacio de nombres MediaWiki. Quiero resolver ya esto de que, a veces introduzco mi username y contraseña, y no abre la sesión en el primer intento sino hasta el segundo, cuando desde el primer intento debería iniciarse sesión. Y como hacer captura de pantalla, para mostrarte evidencia. --Leonpolanco (talk) 02:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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