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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The database for tags will be changed. This will happen on 2 July on French Wikipedia and 9 July on all other wikis. Please report if recent changes get slower or you can't save edits. This could especially affect editors who use the database on ToolForge. [1]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a database problem. [2]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.-
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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00:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Special:AbuseFilter/19
Courtesy notice of a change I made to Special:AbuseFilter/19. I assume that's what you want -- to make sure the term wasn't already in the text? From the looks of the log, there may have been a few false positives, such as Special:AbuseLog/419677. Kind regards — MusikAnimal talk 04:26, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Also, should Special:AbuseFilter/27 be disabled now that the elections are over? — MusikAnimal talk 04:35, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Done @MusikAnimal: it will have to be touched for 2019 and can be reactivated then. — xaosflux Talk 13:13, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Sobre el comunicado de reforma de derechos de autor por parte de la Unión Europea
Hola. Realmente ver todo el tiempo este anuncio me parece molesto, porque nisiquiera puedo acceder a mis contribuciones, lista de seguimiento, artículos o lo que fuera, y todo el tiempo me redirige a ese anuncio. Yo no soy europeo, asique ¿Por qué esto afectaría a otros usuarios que no son de Europa?... Y, ¿Tienes idea acerca de cuánto tiempo permanecerá vigente ese anuncio?. --Stïnger （会話） 11:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC).
- Querido Stïnger. El bloqueo me parece un auténtico despropósito. Si quieres editar mientras dura el bloqueo (¡de día y medio nada menos!), por favor, en las preferencias o ajustes de tu navegador, impide que Wikipedia pueda cargar Javascript en tu navegador. Recarga y deberías ver Wikipedia sin problemas, aunque los gadgets y otras funcionalidades también quedarán anuladas, al menos momentaneamente. Un saludo, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hola, a mi también me parece un despropósito, pero es mucho peor que no solo hayan amenazado a angus con un bloqueo, sino que ahora hayan reestablecido el bloqueo en medio de una discusión abierta en el Café. Si antes era un despropósito... esto ya ni nombre tiene. Intentaré eso del Javascript, pero no sé si podré (no entiendo mucho de esto). Saludos. --Ganímedes (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Ganímedes: Lo que me ha quedado claro es que al parecer las decisiones que afectan a Wikipedia se toman en grupitos de Telegram como se ha dicho por ahí en el Café, y luego se disfrazan de consenso cafetero; y que se puede acordar el cierre de una edición de Wikipedia que usan millones de personas en el mundo usan a diario a través de un proceso sumarísimo que se ha demostrado que no cuenta con el apoyo de parte de la comunidad y sin seguir los procedimientos establecidos. De acuerdo que Wikipedia no es una democracia, tampoco un experimento de anarquía. Desde el 20 de junio se sabía que esto iba al Pleno. Por favor, un poco de seriedad. Es una auténtica vergüenza lo que está pasando, con guerra de biblios incluida. Lamentable. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Bien, eso era lo que quería saber. 20 de junio.... No, mira de hecho 12 de junio. Casi un mes... Tiempo para tomar una decisión "comunitaria" por "los canales oficiales" hubo, pero no se hizo. De hecho, el primer hilo de estas horas se titula "Banner..." y en menos de media hora pasamos a un bloqueo general. De la guerra de biblios, mejor ni hablar. Más que despropósito, se ha vuelto todo un bochorno. --Ganímedes (talk) 15:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yo por mi parte creo que no haré nada más por hoy. He dejado constancia de mi protesta como los demás de la mejor manera que he podido. Mañana la discusión seguirá supongo, ya sin bloqueo, aunque espero que en otro formato, ojalá. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Bien, eso era lo que quería saber. 20 de junio.... No, mira de hecho 12 de junio. Casi un mes... Tiempo para tomar una decisión "comunitaria" por "los canales oficiales" hubo, pero no se hizo. De hecho, el primer hilo de estas horas se titula "Banner..." y en menos de media hora pasamos a un bloqueo general. De la guerra de biblios, mejor ni hablar. Más que despropósito, se ha vuelto todo un bochorno. --Ganímedes (talk) 15:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Ganímedes: Lo que me ha quedado claro es que al parecer las decisiones que afectan a Wikipedia se toman en grupitos de Telegram como se ha dicho por ahí en el Café, y luego se disfrazan de consenso cafetero; y que se puede acordar el cierre de una edición de Wikipedia que usan millones de personas en el mundo usan a diario a través de un proceso sumarísimo que se ha demostrado que no cuenta con el apoyo de parte de la comunidad y sin seguir los procedimientos establecidos. De acuerdo que Wikipedia no es una democracia, tampoco un experimento de anarquía. Desde el 20 de junio se sabía que esto iba al Pleno. Por favor, un poco de seriedad. Es una auténtica vergüenza lo que está pasando, con guerra de biblios incluida. Lamentable. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- WebM video files have smaller file size but still be of the same quality. Creating WebM files will take longer time. [3]
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This was supposed to already have happened but was delayed. For most wikis this will happen on 9 July. For the rest it will happen on 16 July. [4]
- All wikis now use the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy. This could cause errors. You can help fix the errors. [5]
Problems
- When you rolled back an edit it could get both the
RollbackandUndotags. This has been fixed. [6] - Rollbacks from autopatrolled users were not marked as patrolled. This has been fixed. [7]
Changes later this week
- When you edit a link in the visual editor there will be two separate buttons to change which page the link goes to (target) or its text (label). [8][9]
- On the mobile version you can find a link to an editor's contributions from their user page. Now this will work even if they haven't created a user page. [10]
- When you edit a discussion on the mobile version you sometimes get your signature automatically added. This will now not happen if you have already added a signature manually. This is to avoid double signatures. [11]
- Structured discussions toolbars will have more style options. [12]
- When you look at Wikimedia code in Gerrit there will be a new interface. It is on by default for new users. This is also true for developers. This is to make it easier to understand what is happening. [13]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 July. It will be on all wikis from 12 July (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Today all administrators can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. There will be a new user group for editing CSS and JavaScript. Administrators will no longer automatically be able to do this. This is because it is a security risk when all administrator accounts can edit JavaScript even if they never plan to or do not know how it works. You can read more. [14]
- Page previews will be on by default for new accounts. [15]
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23:10, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Next steps for the wish “confirmation prompt for the rollback link”
Hello, a while ago you participated in a feedback round about a proposal how accidental clicks on the rollback link could be avoided. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and ideas!
Looking at the feedback and the rollback situation in different wikis, the development team decided how to approach this wish: As a default, most wikis won’t have a confirmation. But users who wish to have one, can enable it in their preferences, which will add a confirmation prompt to the rollback link on the diff page and on the list pages. The prompt won’t be a pop-up, but an inline prompt like for the thanks confirmation. You can read more about the planned solution and what influenced this decision on the project page. -- Best, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 09:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page. [16]
- You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata. [17]
- You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The Wikistats2 maps have now been updated. [18]
Changes later this week
- Your watchlist will show changes from the last seven days instead of three. If you have already set a length preference it will not change. [19]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 18. It will be on all wikis from July 19 (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on July 17 at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on July 18 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some articles have messages to readers about problems with the article. For example that it does not cite sources or might not be neutral. Readers do not see these messages on the mobile version. The developers now want to show them. You can read more and leave feedback.
- You can use
<inputbox>to create search boxes for specific pages. For example to search the archives of a community discussion page. Instead ofprefix:Page nameyou will see a text that explains which pages are being searched. You can read more and leave feedback.
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16:01, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Hola...
Hola, MarcoAurelio. Sí, estoy muy molesta, mucho mucho... como nunca había estado en estos 11 años que tengo en los proyectos. He retirado mi solicitud. Me replantearé las cosas. Cariños, Laura Fiorucci (talk) 00:24, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Querida Laura Fiorucci. Me alegra saber que te has replanteado las cosas. Puedo perfectamente comprender la frustración pues he vivido situaciones similares aquí y fuera de la wiki. Mucho ánimo y tranquilidad. Un saludo, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you log in to your account you can choose to keep being logged in. This checkbox now works better than before on the mobile version for users without JavaScript. [20]
- Wikis that use Citoid can automatically generate citations for Swedish news sites. This only works in the visual editor. This now works for Swedish public service radio. More will come. Others could use this to add news sites in other languages in the future. [21]
- Editors can do max 90 edits per minute. This is new since last month. This does not affect bots or administrators. [22]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 July. It will be on all wikis from 26 July (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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09:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Sysop rights on Arabic wikipedia
Dear Sir, I am writing to you because I lost my sysop rights on Arabic wikipedia today. It's abuse from another sysop who is making rules as he wants. First he made the control period between 07.01.2018 to 07.07.2018 and then suddenly changed it to 19.01.2018 to 19.07.2018 (just to show that I did less than the required number of sysop edits, because I did't edit from the 16th of July to 29th of July, because of my work as a doctor --> the rule says that a sysop must do 30 sysop edits every 6 months). It is an abuse of power here to change the rules as one wants. Dear Sir, I beg you to give me my sysop rights back. Thank you very much.--DrFO.Tn (talk) 21:48, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Why does this Sysop asked only for deleting my Sysop rights? There are other Sysops who edited much less than the requested edits and still are Sysops. The rule applies for all. This is pure abuse from that Sysop. Thank you very much for understanding me and give me my Sysop rights back.--DrFO.Tn (talk) 22:19, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- The removal of sysop right is correct, and there's a discussion in arwiki about this user reaction --Alaa :)..! 06:46, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Comment @DrFO.Tn: That's incorrect. I did not make policies as I want. I just applied the policy approved by the community. The policy says that a sysop must do 30 sysop edits within 6 months not EVERY as you said. Also, I did not just request to remove your sysop rights. In 2018, I submitted almost 4 requests to remove the sysop rights of approximately 4 administrators and you can see the requests. I am only applying the policy. Thanks.--Faisal talk 12:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think this discussion belongs to arwiki. If there's a concern about local policy interpretation it should be raised on the appropriate local forums. Thank you for your understanding. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The design on Special:Log has changed. It will change again soon. Developers are working on fixing problems. [23]
Problems
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.13 has been partially delayed. All deployments have been resumed and successfully done after bug fixes. [24][25]
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.14 has been partially delayed. [26][27]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 August. It will be on all wikis from 2 August (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 August at 15:00 (UTC) as well as at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- After a community discussion, a new group for users will be created. "Interface administrators" will be the only users allowed to edit interface pages like MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Common.js. This is done to avoid technical issues and improve security. That change will be effective by the end of August 2018.
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14:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)