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Doubt

Hello, Dferg.

I'd like to know if it's true that only stewards can use {{yes}} and/or {{no}} templates in polls. I haven't found any information about that on metawiki.

Otherwise, I'd ask you to revert this edit, once editing others' comments is not recommended and the action hasn't been performed by a steward or administrator.

Best regards, Ruy Pugliesi 13:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Ruy. As far as I know the only regulation (if it can be called as such) regarding {{yes}} and {{no}} templates is at the top of the Steward requests/Global permissions page which states that those templates may be used by stewards. I have not found any other guideline regarding those templates outside the page mentioned above. I hope that this answer your question. Best regards & have a nice day. --dferg ☎ talk 17:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Tú - Usted

Hola dferg, solo quería comentarte algo: Ya conozco tu preferencia por el "usted" ante el "tú" ;) pero creo que para ser consistentes con todos (o casi todos) los mensajes dirigidos al publico (ensayos, políticas, anuncios, hasta los mensajes de MediaWiki) esto, y los demás mensajes de las elecciones de Stewards también debería pasarse al tuteo, o bien pasarlos todos al "usted", a fin de evitar errores como este, donde se utilizan ambos al mismo tiempo. --by Màñü飆¹5 talk 06:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hola Manuel. Ya sabes que siempre que traduzco escritos y demás páginas de políticas (incluso cuando me dirijo a usuarios que no conozco o no tengo un trato con ellos) uso siempre el usted como cortesía. Si consideráis que se debe pasar todo al tuteo sentíos libres de hacerlo. Si me pedís opinión sobre qué debería ser usado o no, yo usaría el usted; pero esto es sólo una opinión personal :) - de todos modos el CentralNotice ya lo había pasado al sistema yo en fórmula de Usted hace ya un par de días.
--dferg ☎ talk 10:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Vale, gracias ;) --by Màñü飆¹5 talk 07:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Tiene "usted" correo, señor Dferg. --Góngora (TES) 14:30, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Recibido. --dferg ☎ talk 19:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Sobre bloqueo erróneo

Hola, Dferg:

En primer lugar quiero hacerte saber que he leído las premisas que aparecen en el encabezado de tu página personal donde se indica que el lugar para realizar peticiones de desbloqueo es la lista global de bloqueos. Es decir, no es que haya pasado por alto las instrucciones, sino que únicamente quería comentarte el caso personalmente a ti ya que fuiste hace casi dos años el que me dio respuesta en el hilo global en español.

Por aquel entonces me comentaste que el sitio se encontraba bloqueado al formar parte de la lista negra global. Lo que desearía saber es por qué se encuentra allí, ya que por más que lo pensé en su momento no llegué a ninguna actividad por mi parte que estuviera en contra de las directrices y la normativa de la Wikipedia. Es decir, sé que se encuentra en dicho listado pero desconozco los motivos, lo cual me produce un cierto desasosiego como puedes entender.

Creo, por tanto, que se debe tratar de un error, lo cual no tiene ningún tipo de importancia porque entiendo la dificultad que debe entrañar llevar un sitio de esta magnitud con la ingente cantidad de ediciones, nuevas entradas y peticiones diarias que tenéis que comprobar. Es lógico que de vez en cuando se produzca alguna confusión porque el material a comprobar es inagotable y en constante actualización. Por ello, me gustaría simplemente conocer la razón del bloqueo y si el sitio podría ser removido de la lista negra.

Incluso, en el caso improbable de que se tratase de un error mío, quiero hacer ver que en ningún momento recibí notificación alguna. He estado leyendo que otros usuarios son informados previamente de ciertas actividades ilícitas antes de proceder al bloqueo. Sin embargo, en mi caso me encontré con el bloqueo de mi página sin ser avisado previamente. Pienso que en ese sentido debería ser escuchado porque no se me ha dado oportunidad alguna de expresarme ni de darme a conocer el caso en cuestión antes de tomar una decisión.

Mi página es la siguiente: www.lamazmorraabandon.com

Reitero que soy consciente de que éste no es el lugar para hablarlo, por lo que no quiero ser ninguna molestia. Simplemente quiero tratarlo contigo ya que me diste respuesta en su momento y por ello considero que conoces el caso.

Un saludo y no es otro mi deseo que poder tratar este asunto con tranquilidad y educación ya que considero que eres una persona tolerante y receptiva y que pueda darse solución a esta confusión.

Gracias anticipadas. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guardian Misterioso (talk) at 04:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hola. En este momento no tengo mucho tiempo para revisar el caso pero intentaré antes de que acabe la semana de estudiar sucintamente el caso. --dferg ☎ talk 19:22, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Hola Dferg

Hola Dferg tengo una consulta necesito saber si este usuario Francisco valera de la wiki en español [1] es un bot automatizado para crear articulos de forma masiva ya que a creado mas de 35059 articulos [2] desde el 2 de mayo de 2010 casi 145 articulos por dia, de ante mano gracias. aqui mi discusion en español [3]. --Erick1984 15:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Lo siento Erick. No conozco al usuario ni tengo posibilidad de saber si es un robot o no. De todos modos en el caso de que lo fuere —reitero que no lo sé ni tengo la posibilidad de saberlo— a mero título informativo te digo que la creación de artículos via robot ha de ser autorizada por la comunidad. Si bien el número de artículos por día que genera el usuario es elevada ello per se no es suficiente en mi opinión para dudar de la "personalidad" de la cuenta. Puede que el usuario cree los artículos via un editor wiki externo y luego los suba a Wikipedia.
Aparte de su elevado número de artículos elevados ¿hay alguna otra causa por la cual sospeches del usuario? Si no está haciendo nada malo, sus artículos son buenos (siguen los pilares, las políticas, etc...) no creo que haya que preocuparse y podemos asumir buena fe por su parte ¿no? :-)
En definitiva: he revisado sus contribuciones y su discusión y personalmente no creo que haya que preocuparse ni dudar de la personalidad de la cuenta. De todos modos en caso de controversias en eswiki es mejor que acudas a un bibliotecario.
Espero que esto satisfaga tus inquietudes. Si no es así siéntete libre de preguntar de nuevo.
Un saludo,
--dferg ☎ talk 19:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Gracias por tu respuesta y explicación, me a quedado todo muy claro. --Erick1984 21:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
A tu disposición.
--dferg ☎ talk 23:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Steward banners

Hey Dferg,

I wanted to let you know that I deactivated the steward banner campaign that was set up to turn on automatically at 00:00 UTC. I'll activate it when we take down the Wiki10 banners (and all our banners) but that will be past UTC because of the time zone thing with the United States etc. It may happen tonight after the San Francisco party but if not it will be no later then tomorrow PST. Jalexander 19:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Isn't easier to change the hour of starting? We need those banners working and they should have started working yesterday :-)
--dferg ☎ talk 19:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Since we haven't finalized the exact 'take down' time I didn't want to set it specifically because it would lend me to setting it later to lean on the safe side (and possibly forgetting to turn it on early when I took down the rest). This way I can make sure to flip them on when the rest get flipped off (believe me I'll remember :) most likely tonight after the party) . I know you guys want these up as soon as possible, and I do too we need more stewards. Jalexander 20:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I enabled it for 1/17 00:00 UTC as a last resort thing but it'll go up earlier then that. On a sidenote did you guys mean to have that showing 100% of the time? The current settings will do that, if we want it to be 50% we need to have an equal weight blank banner in there as well. (50 weight banner divided by 50 total weight = 100% Jalexander 20:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Put them up about an hour ago, 50% (25% empty 25% wikimania scholorship banners). All yours :) Jalexander 09:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey. Could you take a look at this? --WizardOfOz talk 19:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Done. However I have little knowledge of JS so I did nothing. It would be better if others could have a look :) --dferg ☎ talk 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
That was my thought too :D --WizardOfOz talk 18:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Proposed projects

Cool, let me know if you have any further ideas for cleanup of Category:Proposed projects. And flood flag tip duly noted!--Pharos 15:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure & no problem. -- Dferg ☎ talk 16:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't know who else to ask :)

Wouldn't it be very sensible to change the global site notice to the effect of "...please nominate yourself if you are eligible"? Cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, agreed. Given the large ammount of disqualified candidatures we have received I think we should do something. I'll try to do something. -- Dferg ☎ talk 16:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Done, but only for English. I'll change the Spanish one too. Now we all should cross our fingers and see if people reads the message or continues clicking the link without thinking... -- Dferg ☎ talk 16:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
BIG thanks - it is just so weird with so many "disqualified" ones! --Herby talk thyme 16:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, it is weird and sad at the same time. Hope that this resolves the situation. -- Dferg ☎ talk 16:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

German

Hi, in the German unlock, please (91.64.44.189) Best Greetings --N23.4 17:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hallo. I have changed the settings of the block so that logged-in users can edit without problems. The IP has been recently abused to spam a lot of projects, hence the global block. I apologize for any inconvenience but should be fixed now. lG, -- Dferg ☎ talk 17:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank You and have a nice weekend! Greetings --N23.4 18:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Likewise. Have a nice day. -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Template for voting

If you open this with the second input box, it create the page for 2010. Do you know why? --WizardOfOz talk 17:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Done by hoo [4]. --WizardOfOz talk 17:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Yep. It's caused by a bad parameter (preload=) in the inputbox. I'm replacing them all. Thanks. -- Dferg ☎ talk 17:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Should be fixed now in all translations. -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Your question ...

... on Mercy's page: the slovak rules say, an admin is inactive when he did not provide an admin action in last 4 months. Maros's last admin action was on September 23rd i.e. 4 months + 1 day. But he is still active as user. Cheers, -jkb- 20:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification & sorry for the late reply. The request has been processed. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Last email

Maybe I was wrong looking through RC a bit. Regards --Herby talk thyme 18:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Do not worry :) -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure you will notice anyway but that page we were referring too may not be as clearcut as it looked. Swat reverted an aspect which has now been repeated by an IP (I've reverted). May be worth watching - cheers --Herby talk thyme 09:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Saw that & already added to my watchlist. Worth watching it indeed. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 09:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Global bots for Persian Wikinews and Wiktionary

Hi, can you please add global bots to fawikinews and fawiktionay per wikt:fa:بحث:صفحهٔ اصلی and n:fa:ویکی‌خبر:پرچم, Thanks Mjbmr Talk 10:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Correct me if I'm wrong but I do not see in the pages you've linked me above any kind of community agreement; just the header saying that it is used there. We require community approval. Maybe discussion took place in another place, or has it been archived? -- Dferg ☎ talk 15:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
After IRC discussion - fawikinews added to the wikiset. Persian Wiktionary was already added. -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

You deserve a wikibreak but ...

... Nobody but you seems to be active at SUL and I would really love to be able to get the unified account for my usurped name "Sharktopus." Every time I have to log into my old account name "Sharktapus" at Commons to upload a picture it messes up my login at en.wiki when I come back. I know it has been only a few days the request has been up at SUL but I really wish somebody could get it done and you are the only steward I "know" at all. Sharktopus 14:59, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I've just returned from a wikibreak 48 hours ago :-) As requested, I've deleted the global account. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 15:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! Sharktopus 16:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
O-o No problem, really. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 16:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

missing stewards

Hei Dferg, is there any reason that Rdsmith4, Thogo and Sj are missing on this side? Don't they want to be stewards anymore or do you have simply forgotten them? I only recognized that Rdsmith4 isn't active anymore but what's with the others? I think we need them all here if possible. ;-) Greetings --Geitost diskusjon 14:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Geitost. They have untill the 2011 elections starts to put his/her statement, as others have done. I've already sent days ago a reminder via our mailing list that confirmation statements are being acepted. Yesterday Mav and Bastique added theirs and I expect the remaining ones to do that soon. Rdsmith seems to be absent this days but others (ie: Thogo) are active and I think they've just forgotten about that or are simply waiting a few days to post it. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 14:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thank you for the information, I didn't understand the system quite well. Perhaps I'll leave a notice on Thogos German user page and hope also Sj will not forget about it. :-) It's not so easy to find enough good new stewards that fill the gap. After the 2010 elections (34 stewards), there were 3 stewards less than after the 2009 elections (37 stewards). That's not good cause I think then you all have more to do with more projects and more articles in them and so on. Kind regards --Geitost diskusjon 15:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
PS: There are now less stewards than after the december elections in 2006 (31). --Geitost diskusjon 15:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes. This year 4 stewards resigned. We currently have 30 stewards. I do not know how many will be elected & confirmed/removed but still the numbers are rather low given the large ammount of work we currently have to do. Sadly I think that each year less people seems to be interested in steward-like stuff, SWMT & the like. -- Dferg ☎ talk 15:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I left a note on Thogo's German side.
There have been 5 removals last year, so if we might need more than the 37 stewards in Febr. 2009 and perhaps some are not to be confirmed now, I think there have to be elected more than about 12 new stewards to fill the gap. That seems to be nearly not reachable. I asked a very good German CU (Bdk) with cross wiki experiences about stewardship because CU experiences have been asked for in the past elections but she doesn't have the time. We have only 3 CUs in de.WP, that's also very little. People who already have many jobs in projects have more chances because of more experiences but then have no time for stewardship anymore or get burned out. :-( And the ones with no CU/OS experiences haven't so good chances.
Bdk said that it wood be good to split the steward jobs, especially CU and perhaps also OS, from the other steward jobs with much work load. I think that this would be a good way for the future to handle this dilemma. Perhaps the global interest in the 2011 steward elections could be a start for a discussion about it. Could you perhaps initiate a special side for this needed discussion? I don't know enough about the meta structure to find a good place for that but I think it would be necessary. Kind regards --Geitost diskusjon 16:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I do not think that having access or experience with CU/OS access is a must-be for being a candidate for steward elections. Perhaps it might be a plus that demonstrates community trust, but I personally would not oppose anybody for not having access to those tools. Moreover: I've opposed candidates in the past that having access to those tools, just didn't met my other own standards. I look for a lot of things when voting somebody for steward: one of them is trust, but there are more.
Splitting jobs does not seem to me like a good idea to me. We really do not have great backlogs of CU/OS requests & would require creating another "possition". OS requests are handled within minutes if are done via IRC or a couple of hours (even less) if they're done via our private OTRS queue. CU requests if they're urgent are also processed very quickly, if not they suffer a delay of a couple of days or a week in extreme cases (not many stewards are interested in them I think). Global sysops are helping us in the small wiki patrolling area which is the most time consuming. If you are still interested in starting the discussion you may want to try first Talk:Stewards. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
That's interesting. It's not so clear for non-stewards what you are doing all the time. Perhaps it would be an idea if you stewards would set up another side in the future where you list the things that stewards have to do, and also the ones that need most of the time or are to be done most. So it'll be easier for the normal users to see what kind of skills are needed for stewardship. It'll probably be easier to vote and also easier to find good candidates for that in the future. It's good that there are global sysops so it's probably not that severe not having that many stewards as some years ago. But discussion about it can't be bad. ;-) I'll see what might be useful there. --Geitost diskusjon 19:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I think you stewards have something to do about the gap. You can't read German, can you? Thogo ain't gonna candidate anymore so we'll have just one steward from German wikipedia left (perhaps Barras will make it but he's more on other projects like simple.wiki). Sounds no good. :-( --Geitost diskusjon 17:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
What a complete sadness. I'm sorry, I do not speak German but I used GTrans. I hope he reconsiders. Thogo is a valuable steward whose loose will be painfull. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 18:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and I've also seen that Mike has retired the last year who has been a very active steward in the past. Is there perhaps a chance that one or more of these retired ones could come back again? Do they have to candidate again until today 24 o'clock or are they to go through the confirmation process instead of this? Shizhao did this the last time without being steward the year before. Then you had a little bit of time left to find such retired stewards that I don't know until now. ;-) --Geitost diskusjon 19:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
“Thogo ain't gonna candidate anymore” … that's not what he said. He just said that the reasons why his confirmation page is not created will be published soon. Kind regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 19:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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I'm glad to see that this is not definitive. Yes, Mike loss was very sad for me. He was a very active steward. I'm afraid that already having passed some time they'll have to nominate themselves again. See for example Wpedzich, which is a former steward and is running again. As for Shizhao, he was serving on the ombudsman commission; due to conflict of interest issues members of the commission have their checkuser & steward tools temporary suspended during his term. Shizhao opted to have his steward confirmation after his term in the commission expired. Another steward who I miss is birdy, which was very active too. -- Dferg ☎ talk 20:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, that's why, I didn't know Shizhao had been in that commission. Thanks for the infos.
I understand Thogo's answer as decision and definite, the specific tone isn't so easy to translate, so it has been a free translation of the sense about that. ;-) He doesn't write a statement for confirmation is going to come the next days but that there's a reason that he doesn't stand on that side, that reason is going to follow. But if he would set up a statement for confirmation it'll be good. I don't expect that anymore but perhaps someone can convince him about it, who knows? But if he has definite reasons about not candidating then nobody can convice him. I understand it that way. But let's wait for what he'll say in a few days about it. --Geitost diskusjon 22:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Disqualify this

Since you're a steward can you possibly disqualify this steward election? That's never gonna get through. Mr. Berty (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, handled with. Mr. Berty (talk) 21:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

CentralNotice changes

Howdy Dferg, please note that CentralNotice has changed significantly in the past year and copying old banner code into new banners may cause problems, as happened recently with the steward election banner.[5] Specifically, if you want to show banners only to anonymous or logged in users, you should now use the "Display to: []Anonymous []Logged in users" checkboxes. You no longer need to create separate "Anon" and "User" divs in the same banner. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers! Kaldari 22:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the infos. As you've said I've just copied the templates from past year, with the past interface. -- Dferg ☎ talk 01:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Global rollback

Hi! Regarding this, last time I checked GS did not include global rollback (ie. GS only had rollback in the projects where global sysops were enabled). Has this changed? Regards, Jafeluv 15:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I added it per this discussion. Feel free to remove it if you feel it's innapropiate. Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 15:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I see. But wouldn't they still have to be flagged as both GS and GR to get the actual rights? Jafeluv 15:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, of course. Global sysop is a wikiset-limited global right. -- Dferg ☎ talk 15:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay. How about this kind of clarification, to make clear that GS still need to also belong in the GR group? Otherwise the listing might be understood that GR is automatically included in GS. Jafeluv 17:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I like it. Thank you, -- Dferg ☎ talk 17:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

An eye please

You will probably have noticed Ottava's recent editing. I consider Nick to have closed the request for removal of rights on the en wv case unless a 'crat or steward wishes to amend/say anything and so removed Ottava's continuation of the case. He has "warned" me about my behaviour which I consider wrong. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Comentario en la votación

Hola Dferg, me he permitido eliminar tu comentario en la votación a la vez que rectifiqué la información. Gracias por el apunte, Poco a poco 18:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Gracias por la nota. -- Dferg ☎ talk 19:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Mensaje

Hola, Dferg. Te he respondido al correo pero me ha sido devuelto. Te lo comento para que no pienses que me he olvidado. Saludos, --Góngora (TES) 20:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Hola Góngora. A menos que se trate de otro correo yo sí he recibido contestación tuya con fecha 28 de enero de 2011 12:41 a un correo que te envié con fecha 27 de enero de 2011 12:11. Un abrazo, -- Dferg ☎ talk 21:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah, vale, me dejas más tranquilo. Es que he recibido un mensaje de que no había podido ser entregado. Un abrazo, --Góngora (TES) 21:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Tanta tecnología pa'ná xD Un abrazo, -- Dferg ☎ talk 21:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Saludos

Hola Dferg,

Pues aquí dándole un rato al trabajo.. (Esta maldita maña de ser abogado), solo con el pesar de Jjafjjaf, ¿Tú como andas? Un abrazo. Saloca 23:48, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

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