User talk:AmandaNP

You've got a mail

NOTE: Email is from account 레비. — regards, Revi 09:48, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations for stewardship

Hello, AmandaNP. Although I couldn't vote for full support, congratulations because you have been elected a steward by Wikimedia community. :) I hope you will do good job. Regards. --Uncitoyen^talk 14:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations on being elected as a Steward! All the best! JavaHurricane 16:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Woop woop

This is so welcome on any levels. Best of luck and thanks for sticking up your hand. See you round the traps.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Ombuds Commission inactivity

Not sure if you saw this but I thought I'd mention since you were quoted.

Congratulations, by the way! Rschen7754 19:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, and yes I have seen, just haven't been at my best to sit down and think extremely high level. I'll likely stop by next week. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

You've got a mail!

MarioJump83! 01:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry I have yet to get your email today. I'm exhausted right now and will still need time to process it. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 01:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

North korea

Hi could you please delete scn:North koreaand scn:non? This is vandalism.--Eru Rōraito (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I can't translate North Korea well, so you might have a better chance at SRM. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 22:11, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Missmac302

Hi again. Re this edit, User:Missmac302 needs to declare their paid editor status on every project they wish to edit in order to comply with Foundation:Terms of Use#4. Refraining from Certain Activities, except those listed at Alternative paid contribution disclosure policies. -- Jeff G. ツ (please ping or talk to me) 14:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

That is the Foundation's Terms of Use, not the community's. It is their job to enforce it. It is not a reason listed on Global locks and I will not take action outside of community policy. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 15:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Blocked Range

Hi AmandaNP! I've got a request from an editor using one of the IP addresses being globally blocked by you. It's 94.153.80.89 and it could be a part of a blocked range (94.153.64.0/19) for a long-term abuse. This IP is a dynamic address from a Ukrainian ISP provider (Kyivstar) so it seems to affect any of the users. Could you remove the block please? Thank you. --Goo3 (talk) 08:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Your range block at zhwiki

Hello, admin from zhwiki here, thank you for your reaching out in our community. As the text currently in log caused misunderstanding, would you please tell me your reason for blocks in English? Thank you. --Hamish 22:43, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I thought I had gotten clarification from another user on IRC. Basically the reason is long-term abuse. I can't specify much more than that. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 12:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Steward requests/Global/2021-05#Global lock for abusive nicknames

Hello, tell me plz, can you somehow hide these names from the user drop-down list? :) Iniquity (talk) 17:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Most of the names do not qualify for that level of hiding (for example you can search up my name and find a similar one). Are you looking for any user in particular to be done? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 21:33, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi! :) Such usernames are used to harass users, including to litter the list of users. These usernames should be hidden, can it be done through T&S? Iniquity (talk) 23:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I will speak with other stewards to verify, but I don't think this is commonly granted without further vulgarities involved. I doubt T&S would touch this as it's a community issue. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 04:43, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

IRC

Hello. Kindly pop by IRC for a moment. Thanks --Minorax^talk 13:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021

Greetings,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 26 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 14:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Special:CentralAuth/Jace838

Just in case, did you conduct a sleeper check? I did not find anything in the global lock log and found it quite weird that none existed, given that at least three accounts with a very similar username pattern had been created. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:18, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes I did. I didn't find anything further. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 09:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Huh, interesting. Thanks! ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 09:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

#wikimedia-privacy

Hey there! Could you grant me access for that channel? I am an OS on Wikidata (check). Thanks, Esteban16 (talk) 02:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you just message me there so I get your cloak? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Just confirming that was you that messaged me correct, and not someone who just saw this? (Sorry have to ask for security) -- Amanda (aka DQ) 13:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, my cloak is uid42309@user/esteban. Esteban16 (talk) 22:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

#wikimedia-checkuser

Hi AmandaNP, can you please grant me acces to the IRC channel #wikimedia-checkuser? I am a Checkuser on NL Wikipedia (check here; you will also see the other checkusers). The reason: My Access to the IRC channel is not available due to the migration to Libera chat. I do not use it very often though. Thanks Ellywa (talk) 08:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

If you could just tell me your username/cloak and message me on there, I'll get to it as soon as I have that. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:56, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi AmandaNP, this is - I think - my cloak: ~ellywa@user/ellywa . I did not find you present on IRC up to now. I looked on the WP-en channel. Perhaps its the time difference... Ellywa (talk) 12:10, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm always there under AmandaNP, just not in the main channels. I have added your invite exemption to join the channel and someone will add your ACL permissions when you join. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 17:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm in, thanks, Ellywa (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Please approve my request

Please see Steward requests/Global permissions I can't edit wikis other than English Wikipedia.I submitted evidence as screen sort in email. Vedbas (talk) 20:03, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Temporary access

Hi Amanda. Note that when you provide someone temporary access, note that you should add it here like a colleague did for you. ;-) Trijnstel_talk 06:20, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 17:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

My IP has been blocked by primefac

My account has been block by primefac administrator. My username Inyor4mr, I can't edit, create article or login to wikipedia English. I am requesting to be unblocked through wikipedia unblock request system of wikipedia English. 'Inyor4mr (talk) 11:35, 25 June 2021 (UTC)'

You've got a mail

Jonathan5566 (talk) 13:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Please do file any relevant concerns at SRCU. I don't take these types of cases by email. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 15:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Please lock this user:

BigDickDaddy69420Neiga appears to only be here for vandalism, and the username could be offensive to some users. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Clarification

Hi AmandaNP. Can you, please, let me know what was the meaning of including my name in the results of this CU I had requested. Thanks in advance. ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 08:04, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Your name had come up on the same very large range that the socks were on with some similar technical information. Upon further review, I doubt you have a connection to the socks, but the reason your name came up was basically because of colleterial damage. Hope this clarifies things. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 15:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Afrikaans Wikipedia.

Welcome and enjoy your stay! Oesjaar (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

And my friend appeared again: User:Oeiuaueioaeiuoa Oesjaar (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Non application of non consensus

Hi Amanda. I am Nanahuatl from the Turkish Wikipedia. A few weeks ago, I was blocked indefinetely. I made an objection to the blocking, an objection process has been carried and the result between the admins were 7 in favour and 6 against the block. That basically means that there is no consensus on the blocking attempt, admins can't say it's true or not. On the other hands, non-admin users had a total consensus, 29 against and 4 in favour. I am not asking for your comment on the blocking nor I make any comment/defence on that. The thing is, as you know, Wikipedia is not a democracy, we can't vote, it's a part of our first pillar etc. Despite those facts, none one of the admins are willing to take the action back. In that point, I need to ask what I should do. Regards and have a nice day.--Nanahuatl (talk) 06:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't really have the ability to advise on trwiki matters. There is no global Arbitration Committee that reviews blocks, and stewards are only meant to help maintain communities, not make decisions for them. So it's all up the users on that wiki with how to proceed at this point. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi again. No, I don't ask you to advice or make a comment, I think I couldn't express myself well. So I am going to ask some questions directly (questions in general):

1. Since "Wikipedia is not democracy" and that's among our pillars, is it correct to say "6 users against, 7 users in favor, so that's the final decision"?
2. If there's no consensus on any matter, should we just count the votes?
3. If no, shouldn't we just take a decision/action back?

As I said, they are just questions in general.--Nanahuatl (talk) 02:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

(random user here who spotted this in recent changes) For question 1, the answer depends. Since WMF projects (not just Wikipedia) work on consensus, not democracy, the whole community needs to be okay with it, or at least around 80% of the community. For question 2, then yes, you do count the votes, however, it still works based on consensus. So for example if there's 5 supports with no reason and just a "Support [username] [time]", but 3 opposes with really good explanation to why, the minority 3 may as well overturn the consensus. For your third question, that depends by wiki, and I'm not sure how it works on trwiki. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 05:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi @SHB2000:. Thanks for your response and answers. I personally agree with all, and I support all. Trwiki also says the same things. The thing is, none of the admins are willing to say "we are agreed on there's no consensus between admins" (non-admin users have already, as I mentioned in my first paragraph) and are willing to take the action. That's the issue here :D The decision is being made "only" by counting votes (the number only, not the rationales) and I keep saying the same things over and over again. And there's no way to make an objection becase most of them (except one opposing admin) just ignored my explainations, no responses at all, no answers, nothing... Anyway, the result is "no consensus" basically but no one is taking an action. And me, with half million edits and 90+ good/featured content (I don't know if it's a Wikipedia record but it is for the Trwiki for sure) just waiting an admin to show up hopelessly. I believe in this project and that's why I keep trying and trying.--Nanahuatl (talk) 05:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

trwiki admins have been in the controversy this week. You might want to have a look at Requests for comment/Why is automatic indefinite blocks allowed on Turkish Wikipedia? (which is a similar controversy with trwiki's block system). SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 07:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000:, it's a bot-admin that makes such indefinite blocks for some filters. I have witnessed many mistakes, although, I have no idea how it works or what's the algorithm. I knew that our blocking policy was out of date (never had a big change since its application in 2006-2007) and I personally translated it from the English Wikipedia (well, most of it) with the support of some users and proposed it to our community. Not just that, also created the "banning policy" (we didn't have) and the "disruptive editing" policy (we didn't have either) to be proposed (I have to admit of the personal efforts of two other users in those pages, maybe even more than me, I just made the "groundbreaking" and together we had those texts). A funny note, most of the admins that are involved to my blocking "voting" didn't even make any comment on that policy proposal (I even mentioned on them so we can have their opinions which are important, only 5 of 25 admins shared their opinions).

To solve all of those issues and "make the Turkish Wikipedia again", at this point, I only kindly ask to a steward or some stewards to answer three questions I have asked. Becase it's obvious that there is no consensus between the admins (not the mention that the last 4 comments came in the last 24 hours, or, 4 of them were just inactive for months and became inactive again after they "voted", but that's an inside issue) and none of them is willing to take the responsibility and act. All I need is that someone to encourage them to apply "no consensus" decision, that's all. Not making any pressure, just to say that's normal, and it should be like that, and that's among the pillars of Wikipedia :)--Nanahuatl (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, it's not a bot admin, but I believe it's the Abuse filter. The filter also thinks me renaming files are considered vandalism.

You could start an RfC if you want about the issues with trwiki, where non stewards and tr admins themselves will have to say something. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 09:28, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Can be @SHB2000:, I am not really familiar with the bots so I stay away usually make comments on how they or should work :D For the RfC, I have thoght about it, but the thing is, those activities can be (and actualy do!) considered as "trolling" for some Trwiki users (yes, including some admins). And I really don't want to give that image, I just want Trwiki admins to do their responsibility under the policies of Wikipedia, and I don't really take times of the users who are willing to contribute to the encyclopedia during their limited time in here. Already 6 or 7 of our active (really active ones) members declared that they don't want to contribute under these circumstances, and I feel responsible of that. Also feeling reponsible of the time that I made wasted for the Trwiki. Only 1 of the supporting users were actually responded to the community, and another one after the "voting" (i keep saying voting because it is, even though it shouldn't be). Most of the Trwiki admins already ignored me, us (except one message of the blocking admin, only 2 of 25 admins responded what I said, and 1 more after the process, and minus 6 admins who were saying that the action was wrong of course), and there's no reason for not to continue that ignorance. Even right now, I am taking your time and Amanda's time here and I don't really want that.--Nanahuatl (talk) 09:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry about taking our time. We're all volunteers here. We all do this because we're passionate about improving free knowledge around the world, whether it comes to a dictionary, an encyclopedia, a cookbook or a travel guide, whatever it is. I once took a big block of Amanda's time when it came to a bunch of sock accounts last month, but it's for the better of promoting free knowledge. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 09:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the support @SHB2000: (the idea, not me personally). I also believe in this project, I wouldn't spend 12 years for more than half million edits if I weren't. Even as we speak, 4 of the 8 active feature article nominations were started by me (I don't claim the ownership of them obviously :). All I want to contribute to this wonderful project and that's why I try harder and harder. It only makes me upset that my intentions can not be seen and understood.--Nanahuatl (talk) 10:06, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Not sure if there's anything for tr, but from what I know, the Simple English Wikipedia is full of editors who are banned on the English Wikipedia (such as for sockpuppetry, vandalism or some unusual reasons like w:WP:CIR or w:WP:NOTHERE). It's quite clear that there's many who want to positively contribute, but end up getting blocked for really unusual reasons or even just simple mistakes. As an admin on voy, I've been summoned to the English Wikipedia for good faith unblocks (with one unusual reason being blocked for trouting another user) SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 10:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000:, the thing is, admins there are not encouraged enough, I believe. The blocking is being used as a punishment rather than to win the user, according to my observations. That's why I fully renovated the blocking policy, so we can all understand the "soul" of blocking and banning. Me myself too, I learnt a lot while I was creating that policy, I literally learnt more about the soul and real purposes of blocking :) And I can't imagine the things that admins can learn and expand their visions, as it happened to me. The biggest problem is when an admin makes a mistake (not telling this one specifically), it's too difficult to take back that action or if they are so much, to warn or have any kind of sanctions against the admin. They can make mistakes, non-admin users can make mistakes, we have to look for good faith and the sake of Wikipedia, that's all.--Nanahuatl (talk) 18:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

Where should I go if I wanted to lock an account? I don't want to lock this account; I'd like to lock some other accounts that I used for other Wikimedia projects. However, I would like to stick to one account now. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 11:00, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

We don't usually lock accounts upon request. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 18:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Why not? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 22:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

It prevents logging in if you ever want any of the back, plus, it's not within the spirit of the locking procedure. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:07, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Alright, fine. CheatCodes4ever (talk) 21:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Cross-wiki persecution

Hi.

Please, block globally Special:CentralAuth/Куявіус, and hide his attacks on me in EnWiki. --Mykola7 (talk) 14:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Ergoldinka

Hi! I'm russian admin. My question about Special:CentralAuth/Ergoldinka. She did not do anything except wikification (this is our typical assignment for beginners). She is not a bot, and there are not any spam in her contribution. Lesless (talk) 11:32, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

• Par exemple, [1]. Lesless (talk) 11:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

  Responded at ru:Википедия:Форум_администраторов#Очередная_глобальная_заморозка. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

  Amanda, thank You very much! Lesless (talk) 16:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Global userpage

Is there a way I can have a global userpage? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 00:11, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@CheatCodes4ever: You have a global user page  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hello, AmandaNP. Could you please delete this (User:Kadıköylü/global.js)? The code is not correct. Kind regards.--Kadıköylü (talk) 19:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Probably vote-stacking is reshown on szywiki

Fyi, on szy:Wikipitiya:Request for adminship, two  Confirmed group of user accounts are still voting together for their two RFAs, I've heard that after that SRCU request that had past some months, we didn't blocked, nor global locked their sock accounts. I warned one of them but still nothing helps on refrain them from doing so, now what to do? Just file a SRG or start a global RFC on judging their more behaviors? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@AmandaNP: ? Is there any matter from your part on not able to make any responds? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

I did issue some local blocks just the other day. SRG would not be the place to handle this situation right now. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 01:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

reason for blocked account

This is regarding the globally blocked account "cure wish tarun".

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Cure_wish_tarun

I have no connection with that account, but I am asking because I want to avoid the mistakes done by the user. I can see only 8 minor edits made by the user on hindi wikipedia. Is that the reason for global block? Shantanuo (talk) 05:44, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

They were spamming a link to an external site of theirs. That's why they got locked. -- Amanda (she/her) 14:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Re global block for Animal-Jumping-2

Hello. Are you able to provide more information on Animal-Jumping's other locked accounts (number/list of socks)? They were engaging in anti-vandalism work, and I have been approached by members of the yuewiki community concerned about the lock. H78c67c (talk) 23:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@H78c67c: It was a result of many accounts. A sample list is located below and does not include them all:

• 冇看廢鹽
• Pie314159265358979323846pie
• S1769287122221304S
• Enjoyc
• S2212022
• SShShShSShShiShinShinjiman
• 11670 S 07611 S 11670 S 07611
• S21251122
• S1,738,196 121,421 312
• S10235
• 07611S
• S11671
• S11674

and that is just from one IP. The list does go on. There are 30 accounts total on another range. A good portion have been blocked on zh_yuewiki. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:58, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Amanda, I am not sure if they are doing some activities for Meat Puppeting or similar. An account like HGSS S11674 had just created and writes back to one of Animal Jumping's user talk page "to congratulate Animal Jumping is being globally locked", those are the activities concerned from the Cantonese Wikipedia community as well. Shinjiman (talk) 04:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Shinjiman: That account comes from the same range as Animal Jumping 2, just with a different mobile device. So it could still be them. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@AmandaNP: Accordings the findings from Animal-Jumping-2's contributions, most of them are edited by Wikiplus or Twinkle (and only a few edits are done by mobile web edit), however the accounts besides Animal-Jumping-2 were using the mobile web edit for most cases. Although it comes from the same range, it maybe possibly shared by a same service provider from its finding. Is there's any other findings to prove that Animal-Jumping-2 belongs to the group of editors? Shinjiman (talk) 07:23, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Shinjiman: The initial group that I listed are actually all  Confirmed to each other. They use the same device on a single residential IP (where no one else contributes) and mobile IP range. It's very clear they are the same person. The only one that was using a different device was HGSS S11674. So there is absolutely no doubt that everyone but HGSS S1174 is the same person. I also had @Operator873:, another steward, review my findings. -- Amanda (she/her) 09:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

About हेमा राज रन्डी

Hi! AmandaNP , I requested to ban these members globally Steward requests/Global but you did not lock them globally and put the mold of complete why so?. In this, you were putting a Sockpuppet template on the page of some member from the IP, while not login with the User account, So I removed its edits, then started abusing me and my mother, I have been abusing her even after removing the edits, I am a volunteer on Hindi Wikipedia, I complained about this to a manager of the wiki , but alas they didn't answer me and the manager doesn't work on my wiki , Sir what is my fault in this that I am being abused by mother? I was just doing my work sir I am currently very disappointed about this topic and one thing this account is a puppet account of a global level blocked. I am very disappointed and I hope justice from you because you are a Wikimedia steward, you can do anything, will you give me justice, Otherwise I will have to tell this to Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology and strict action will be taken against that IP, but if I do, Hindi may face dangers, which I do not want. .Please do something. Thanks. Aviram7 | ✎  08:41, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

They are locked globally already by another Steward. You are just not able to see that they are locked because the username has been hidden. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

This is a good news for me, thank you Sir. Aviram7 | ✎  02:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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Requesting help for AbuseFilter actions

Hello Amanda, there are so many request pages that I am a little lost. I would like to do two things:

• Hide a few AbuseFilter log lines from public view (I made tests and did not realize that they would contain my private information),
• Configure AbuseFilter on a wiki so that abusefilter-log and abusefilter-view apply to autoconfirmed users, not everyone.

Can you please tell me who to contact in order to do that, and if a community discussion is needed first? Huñvreüs (talk) 12:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

You should be able to hide abusefilter log entries yourself on the wiki. This would only apply to administrators though. If you need the log oversighted, please contact us. As for the changing who can view the edit filter logs, I know you would have to make a request through Phabricator, but i'm not sure it will be approved, and i'm not sure if it will require community consensus. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Hiding from regular users is enough, but I can’t find how to do that, or a documentation on this particular topic. Could you please tell me how to hide a log entry? Huñvreüs (talk) 14:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

So I just had clarified for me that you either have to revdel the actual revision (if it was even allowed) or it has to be oversighted. So just go ahead and contact us at the link I gave above with the ones with your private info. -- Amanda (she/her) 14:33, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Email sent, thanks. Huñvreüs (talk) 14:44, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Request for GL for Alka Noopur

Dear AmandaNP , Alka Noopur is suspect Account of Adam Chaco , so I Request to you please globally lock this Account. Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 16:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Done -- Amanda (she/her) 16:42, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

AmandaNP thanks a lot for this fastly Action. Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 16:49, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP, An IP operated by Adam Chaco he vandalism on User:Aviram7/Basic Information and User:Aviram7/Intro continuously Is doing abuses , they vandalized my Aviram7 on English Wikipedia today, User talks are semi-Protected for 2 days, they are now on meta he vandalizing these pages, and he is carrying out vandalism and abuses by changing the IP again and again, you are requested to do something..Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 08:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I have globally blocked the IP address for 3 days. Unfortunately, I can't block the entire range as there would be a fair amount of colleterial. If they continue, you can always immediately report it to any steward on IRC instead of waiting for me to wake up or become available. That way they can be stopped early. That's sadly all I can offer. -- Amanda (she/her) 10:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

That's great ! Ok Dear AmandaNP The next time they vandalize or abuse me from Ip by Adam Chacko, I will directly and fastest through IRC complain to you or other stewards if you are proactive, thank you very much for answering me.Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 11:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP, I'm sorry I don't know the usage of IRC,An Ip Re -Opreated by Adam Chacko and that on my Aviram7 on the Hindi wikipedia, but on अलका नूपुर is repeatedly threatening to withdraw the repatriation and a User whose name Officialdivyang is a Sockpuppet account of Nishadlalit4 , that article from the AfD template Deleting, if possible, semi-protect my User talk forever, otherwise it will keep bugging me because the list of steward is showing only 5 Administrator active in the list, but in reality they are Currently not active.Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 06:02, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Dealt with. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dear AmandaNP Thanks a lot for Helping Me Again .Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 01:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Philipppontoppidan group

Hi! Thank you for answering this request, but this IP continues to spread global spam, especially on en.wiki and Wikidata. I think It needs to be blocked too. --HVL talk 19:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I have blocked it for two weeks now. -- Amanda (she/her) 19:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Request fo GL for ADDYBOT

Dear AmandaNP, I made a bot 3 months ago, but I am just now learning how to run the bot, almost I will probably take about 2 years to run that bot on Hindi Wikipedia and give bot rights to the bot, kindly request you Let's lock my bot globally because I don't need it right now.Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 13:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Self requested locks are rarely done, and when they are the are considered permanent and irreversible. Since you intend to use the account in the future, I will not lock it. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP But I will use it on Hindi wikipedia only after 2 years now,Can you lock it for 2 years? Will I again request you to unlock it globally when I need this bot.Regards.Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 14:22, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

As I mentioned, we don't reverse self requested locks. As in it would remain locked forever. I have to decline a lock if you are going to use it in the future. -- Amanda (she/her) 14:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP, It's okay, but can you give my bot 2FA rights I Please See This Can you complete this request?. Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 14:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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On HEATHROW and ELLS

Hi Amanda, thank you for the information about User:Color Actor the other day. I've been thinking about this because it was hard for me to believe ja:LTA:HEATHROW and ja:LTA:ELLS were the same person, but there might be a possibility that ELLS was masking his/her IP address(es) as HEATHROW's, using proxies. This is because ELLS often uses VPNs and HEATHROW's IPs are everywhere in the block log. If Color Actor's IPs revealed by CU have been blocked before with an explicit declaration of LTA:HEATHROW, this may be the case, as far as I'm concerned.

Just thought I'd talk to you. Thanks again. --Dragoniez (talk) 19:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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The blocked users in the Sakizaya community

Good day AmandaNP,

I am iyumu, a Wikimedian from Taiwan currently working for Paiwan Wikimedians User Group and helping other communities of Taiwanese indigenous languages. I've just recieved messages from Sakizaya users that their accounts are blocked because of "swifting ip" which is considered inappropriate acts on wiki. It was found last year when I tried to help the Sakizaya community to vote for their own admin. However, for I know, the "ip" is the same only because 海螺先生 and 龍眼村長 are in the same house (they're from the same family). And the community are actually very small (total population of Sakizaya speakers are only about 1,000). So for now, I would like to know if the block can be canceled? And next, how I can help them with their contribution in the future? For example, do I need to tell them, if people are in the same house or office sharing the same ip, they share only one account? Thank you.iyumu 09:30, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

The problem is, is I didn't just find the two users you mentioned, I found several more accounts. Please see this. I would need a little better explanation as to why I found all of these accounts. -- Amanda (she/her) 12:36, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Probably Adam Chacko is back

Dear AmandaNP , Adam Chacko Then it's back, probably in the name of सूर्यकमल , I don't know but it has undone my edits on अलका नूपुर , please You do something.Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 15:09, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP thanks a lot for globally lock LTA of Adam Chacko, but you remove pending change protection on अलका नूपुर but this page is semi-protected Currently but I requested to you please fully protect this page.Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 16:02, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

The semi protection has not had a chance to work yet, because pending changes protection is on. Fully protecting the page would make it so that you couldn't even edit it, which would be an extreme measure. Lets try semi-protection for now. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:04, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP , that's Great! But adam chacko will come back to edit a few days later and his edits tell him that he is adam chacko, and sadly there is no tool on wikipedia that automatically checks the edits of a Sockpuppet account forever, but I'm glad you're standing by my side to help me.Regards Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 16:14, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP , Adam Chacko Then it's back, probably in the name of Adam Chacko, Please see Adam Chacko.Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 07:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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Request for Gl for History quester

Dear AmandaNP , A User named History quester is making racist edits on articles on Hindi Wikipedia, gives a reverse warning on deleting its edits and undoing the edit, please you Do something, please lock this member globally.Regards. Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 14:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

That does not fall into the reasons of why I can globally lock someone. You would need to have them blocked on multiple different wikis first. -- Amanda (she/her) 17:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Minimum voting requirements

Hello Amanda,

In Steward requests/Permissions/Minimum voting requirements for a permanent administrator, I found this:

• The candidate must obtain at least 80% support.
• Any opposition requires a full discussion.

The local rules in the Breton Wikipedia require 75% support and a discussion is not required in any case. Does this mean, since we don’t have bureaucrats, that we have to change our rules? Also, does it mean that oppositions must be discussed in English, or do we need to translate them before filing the request, since a discussion in Breton is probably not very helpful to a steward? Huñvreüs (talk) 18:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I guess it would all depend on the policy if it was adopted by consensus. I tried to look at br:Wikipedia:Melestrerien for the latest policy, but I couldn't find it. I would try not to override local consensus if it exists. A vote does not have to be in English either, though a steward may have some difficulty reading it. Using symbols like  Support and  Oppose can often help with that. -- Amanda (she/her) 19:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Wow, I had no idea we had such an outdated page! The correct one is br:Wikipedia:Merourien, I will fix the redirect from br:Wikipedia:Administrators since this is probably how you got there. As far as I know, the policy was decided by the former bureaucrat, Neal. These are the rules he applied, so we just kept them even after he went away. What I want to avoid here is someone getting 76% of the votes and not being made a sysop: if this can happen, it would probably be better to switch to 80%. Also, locally, for those 75%, neutral votes count the same as opposes. This is weird, and it was contested, but so far it has not changed. Huñvreüs (talk) 19:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

We normally would not count neutral votes as part of the opposes. Maybe this might be better to get some wider attention at the stewards' noticeboard for those who know more about permission granting than I do. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Huñvreüs (talk) 08:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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How to request my unblock?

I'm currently blocked permanently in Mongolian Wikipedia, for doing machine-translation, which I don't think I've done. How to request my unblock? Enkhsaihan2005 (talk) 03:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Disclosure of personal data without consent

How do stewards and Wikipedia rules affect the disclosure of personal information? That's what he did, by the way User:Mykola7. He then hid it but held a long discussion there. If necessary, I will provide a link to this action. I consider such actions of him absolutely intentional for the purpose of further personal attacks on me by a vandal. I'm not just asking this out of curiosity, but because for more than a year now I have been harassed in a rather brutal way by the so-called Kyivstar vandal not only on Wikipedia, but also by someone who revealed my data to him on Facebook and in April this year there. Then he was forced to delete his page there. Thank you. --Jphwra (talk) 04:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

If the personal information disclosure happened on ukwiki then you should tell your local oversighters so they can remove the information even from admins eyes. I don't know what specifically ukwiki's policies are regarding this, so you would have to look into that. If it happened on another wiki, then let me know which wiki and we can move forward from there. But basically on wikis with oversighters it's up to the local community to handle it, unless it's happening across multiple wikis, then stewards can get involved. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I think Jphwra decided to pursue me now, after I interfered in his manipulation of the SRP. There was no disclosure, because he himself spread this information on the pages of the Wiki, and more than once. I decided to go to the Jphwra meeting and hid this information at his request, although I am not obliged to do so, as this information is still available on the Wiki pages. So if Jphwra continues to harass me or accuse me in their own fictions, I will simply revoke my concealment of this information, because he himself disclosed this information, thereby agreeing to distribute it under a Creative Commons license. And yes, I explained to him there that he could ask the oversighters to suppress everything where he had written his own data, but he didn't care, he was just looking for a reason to accuse me, because I did not allow him to manipulate further. Sorry AmandaNP for having to read this now. Mykola ^talk 13:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

as you can see from the reaction of User: Mykola7, he considers the disclosure to be correct. Although no userbox mentioned my specialty. As for persecution, in no case is there any persecution, but a statement of fact. And quite an unpleasant fact from the user, who is the administrator, checker and concealer. For the time being, Amanda, I reserve the right to contact you if User: Mykola7 abuses administrator rights, ie unjustified blocking, warnings, etc.? Thanks for the answer. Jphwra (talk) 14:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Any potential abuses need to be dealt with by the local community. I can't take any unilateral action on my own and would not be able to take action without community consensus. -- Amanda (she/her) 22:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand you. This is to insure against possible abuse. You have to understand me correctly. Jphwra (talk) 06:57, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

review of glock

Hello, I hope you are doing well.
Recently, you globally locked User:Khirid Harshad. While I am aware of the reasoning, and support the glock, I am confused about it on mrwiki. Currently, there is a consensus on mrwiki (mr:special:permalink/2123274#Khirid_Harshad या सदस्याचे योगदान) that Khirid Harshad should be unblocked at least on mrwiki, as there has been no inappropriate edits by the user on Marathi Wikipedia. I think we should give them rope, and an opportunity to explain themselves. But the problem is, they do not have connected an email address to their account, and given the history of their socking, the chances are low that they would check their account. So I request this to be done quickly. Folks at Marathi wikipedia are concerned about losing a useful contributor. Once you unlbock the editor, we can take this to appropriate venue if you'd like (steward's noticeboard?). Kindly ping when replying. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 10:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: I have unlocked the account. That said, they really should not be using multiple accounts like their latest one, Desai Aditya and the excessive amount of logged out editing that is going on. Please try and advise them of this. -- Amanda (she/her) 19:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Just for the record here, they also continue to sock on enwiki recently under Sweetu Appu Deepu and Sidhu Shubh Shash which needs to stop. -- Amanda (she/her) 19:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much Amanda. It is apprciciated a lot. Would it be possible for you to run a CU on Khirid_Harshad account on Marathi wikipedia? —usernamekiran (talk) 08:01, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

I did. That's how I found they were using Desai Aditya on mrwiki and an excessive amount of logged out editing. -- Amanda (she/her) 20:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot DQ. See you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 19:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Delete

AmandaNP I want to delete my account. Please delete my account cause I've blocked on Wikicommons and already I've requested unblock but there are no response please delete my Wikicommons account and I don't want to be on Wikicommons.and I'm also frustrated for this. STATZET (talk) 14:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

It is not possible for us to delete any account on one project or even globally. Sorry. -- Amanda (she/her) 18:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

AmandaNP As per no response about my Wikicommons block, for an example If I create an another account on Wikicommons can you merge that account to my current Wikicommons account ? STATZET (talk) 12:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

It is not possible to merge accounts either, but also creating another account to edit commons would be considered sockpuppetry and would get you blocked again, making it harder for your main account to be unblocked. I wouldn't recommend it. -- Amanda (she/her) 05:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Amanda for let me know. STATZET (talk) 06:39, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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Lock evasion?

Hi AmandaNP, you recently locked User:MastersCard and User:車禍保險下的受害者. I noticed a new account with similar edit behaviour [2], could you take a look at this? --Johannnes89 (talk) 19:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Ya i'm not sure they are related. I'm going to just leave it for now. -- Amanda (she/her) 20:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

The user has been reported as LTA now [3] – and I wonder if these newly created accounts [4][5] with similar edit behaviour are sockpuppets of the same LTA as well... Johannnes89 (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Locked 5 accounts. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:44, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! This might be the next one [6]. Quite an unusual way of trolling. Johannnes89 (talk) 06:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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Request for Semi Protection on Usertalkpage on hiwiki

Dear AmandaNP , I hope you're happy in our life , but I am sad because again someone started vandalizing my member talks of my Hindi Wikipedia, I reverted you compiled talks, although I have not been active on Hindi for a long time and my Usertalkpage Permanent semi-protection is needed as I spend most of my time studying. and our Administrator is currently not active, i request you to block that राजवीर ठध from editing on hindi wikipedia or lock globally.Thanks 🙏❣️ Aviram ^No_SurprisesPlease 08:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Dear AmandaNP, thank you so much for permanently Semi-Protected my User talkpage and locking Adam Chacko globally. Thanks 🙏.

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Cross-wiki problem with this user

I need a behavioral evidence for Thrakkx (talk · contribs) on multiple cross-wiki issues. Our investigation is ongoing by concerning for clearly not being here to build an encyclopedia, edit warring, harassment, and repeatedly uploading fair use material. For example, Thrakkx abused Creepershark77 recently on Wikipedia, in addition (which had previously added by ToBeFree) of abusive comment by comparing these multiple diffs as a result for reverting and again from this time.

Our evidence

Disruptive behavioral edits on Wikipedia

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1058137109
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1090699963
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1092167672
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1093349103
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1097178573
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110633664
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110959300
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110959344
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110968183
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110966759
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110967221
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1110968145
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1111035994
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1111035356
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1111906186

Also in abuse log that matches diffs

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/33409942
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/33409941
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/33409925

Recently suspected used IP addresses (while logging out)

• 2601:140:9000:19c0:6134:6b1a:bbcb:4e9d (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS)
• 2601:140:9000:19c0:fdd6:36bd:b840:3d74 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS)

Some deleted files on Commons (marked intended as copyvio)

• File:Timothy Laurence Killeen.jpg (result: Failed license review; non-free license)
• File:Gameday Faves - Illinois Fighting Illini Classics.jpg (result: No license since 29 March 2020)
• File:Netherlands Carillon Bells Removed in 2019.jpg (result: licensed under cc-by-nc-sa-2.0)
• File:Nineteenth-century statue of Matthias van den Gheyn in the façade of the Leuven City Hall.jpg (result: No OTRS permission for 30 days)
• File:"University of Illinois March" Cover.jpg (result: commons:Commons:File:"University of Illinois March" Cover.jpg)
• File:Casting a bell.jpg (result: commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Casting a bell.jpg)

--XcaptainStrong (talk) 13:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by bringing this to me, as each community should look into these individually. That said, I'm also not going to take any action from a brand new account that won't even register on the wiki they are complaining about. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

But if is disruptive, what if this user regarding the abuse of Creepershark77's talk page by reverting two times before ([7][8]) on Wikipedia, should be reported this behavioral evidence via en:COM:ANI? Also included in abuse filter (see above). XcaptainStrong (talk) 15:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Adminright

Hallo Amanda, Ich habe Sie nicht verstanden, warum Sie mich blockiert haben. Ich habe kein socken. Ich bin seit Jahren ehrlich mein Beitrag für die mongolische Wikipedia geleistet. Und weiterhin mein Beitrag leisten wollen. Ich habe nicht falsches getan. Wie ich sehe, habe ich ein pro, ein contra für mein Adminwahl. Sie haben dabei mich gesperrt. Ich vesrtehe sie nicht. Da sie mich gesperrt haben, können Sie auch alle meine Beiträge auch löschen. Vielen dank. Munkhzaya.E (talk) 08:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC).

CheckUser proves you were socking, again. That is why I blocked you and 3 other accounts and cancelled your SRP. -- Amanda (she/her) 10:29, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Admin renewal

Hi sorry to trouble you, I'm just curious my admin rights was supposed to be renewed yesterday as you can see my request here I was waiting the whole day yesterday but nothing happened, I'm messaging you as I think stewards ain't noticing that but I'm not sure why it is not done yet or is it waiting for a steward who kept it on hold ? RebelAgent 🇧🇼 11:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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Please Help Me Sir!

Dear AmandaNP, adam chacko is now back as आनंदजी संगीतकार , but he abuses other user Mother , who edits on अलका नूपुर and he started edit wars against and against and revert other users edit, specially my and also abuses my mom.😭 i Request to you please fully protect अलका नूपुर due to Persistent edit wars, in hiwiki admin are semi active not fully active, we have no right.Thanks 😔 → αѵίɾαʍ7 ([ʆεt'ς tαʆƘ🇮🇳])← 13:00, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

First, stop calling me sir. It's absolutely inappropriate for you to be calling me that. I have locked the user, but please ask your local admin संजीव कुमार about protecting the page. Also, for cases in the future, either Global Sysop Requests or Steward lock requests are the proper places for this to be handled, as I can't always get to these in a timely manner as with this time because I was sick. -- Amanda (she/her) 14:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

HELP

Greetings @AmandaNP How are you? I need help here. Since the candidate does not respond anymore to the discussion there. I would like that request to be marked as "not done" or "done" according to your decision as a steward. It has been almost 3 months now and the candidate is not responding. I was the user who nominated them for admin because I saw good in them on my wiki (and they still are (good/helpful)), but since they don't respond anymore, can you mark it either as done or not. Regards Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:35, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Why have you globally banned PlanespotterA320?

Good day! Why have you blocked PlanespotterA320 globally? The explanation you've provided for your action reads "Lock evasion: User:RespectCE". However, PlanespotterA320 is her main account, not a sock. Second, in a recent meta discussion, no consensus was reached to globally lock her. In fact, most people voted against blocking her. She has admin rights on uzwiki and has been making constructive edits there. Thus, it's no wonder that no member of our small community supported Lemonaka's frantic calls to get her globally banned desysop her. We really wouldn't like to lose active editors because of their actions on other wikis. Nataev ^talk 05:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

I would think that I would need to ask the same thing. There has never been a clear rule that socks are not allowed, that is solely a by-wiki rule. Global locks is fairly clear, and it precisely points to the community action approach of global bans for due process locks. If there is a global ban decision, I think it entirely inappropriate for a steward to act in such a unilateral and authoritarian means. It is not a stewards job to act against the wishes of the community per the ban discussion at Requests for comment/Global ban for PlanespotterA320; please reverse your global lock and follow due process.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:38, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Billinghurst, please do not assume bad faith here. Though I believe that a better lock reason should have been used (and perhaps a statement made about this and sent to relevant communities), this lock was necessary to prevent the continuance of cross-wiki abuse and harassment. Stewards make locks of this sort all the time, often in cases that involve non-public information. I do not believe it would be acceptable for stewards to unlock the account, given the extent and nature of abuse.

I will also note that the global ban RfC was opened without following the required procedures and was literally three sentences, providing minimal information about the extent of abuse. All but one oppose is in response to the lack of evidence provided or to the nominator personally. It is not accurate in the slightest to state that it constitutes some sort of community consensus to exempt PlanespotterA320 from enforcement actions.

Though locks for this reasoning are not uncommon, they rarely occur with users who are blocked on multiple projects, have socks locked for xwa, and are somehow still a local admin somewhere. This is a very unique case. Amanda, and other stewards familiar with this case, are aware of the concerns raised here and Amanda said she'll respond when she can. I've also been discussing with other stews the possibility of writing some sort of description for this action that can provide more information as to why a lock was considered necessary. Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 01:50, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

@Vermont: I am not making any accusation of bad faith, I am showing a lack of due process as viewed from the community, those of us elected you to perform the duties of stewards. I think that you need to reread some of the specific comments that I made about unilateral actions and due process. All that is evident is the lock reason and in my considered opinion, what is there is inadequate explanation for someone who has 300k edits through the system. [I don't need to be informed of stewardry procedures, BTDT, and what they can do, how they do it, and I can also point you to their excesses.] Stewards need to be the epitome of best practice, not lowest practice. So if there has been a discussion among stewards about the actions of a user, then it can say "account locked for problematic sock activity, discussed and agreed by stewards in private forum" or something demonstrates not unilateral, and due process.

It is right that profiled users should question and politely challenge stewards in their actions and decisions where they are seen to be insufficient and that is done their user pages, especially not relying on a unilateral "trust me". I would have preferred that stewards held each other accountable, and AmandaNP could say something in this case that something better can be done. However, that has not occurred and you have sprung to someone's defence, so we are where we are. Stewards should not be hiding behind the power of their rights; they should to answer for their actions where they are seen as unilateral and without due process. Be accountable. Be open. Show best practice. Elevate yourself, show yourselves worthy of the high rights you have been granted.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:38, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

There's a few important points here...first, my comment explicitly recognized that the lock reason was lacking. Specific information about the reasoning of the lock should have been provided in the summary, possibly noting that it involves non-public evidence. I understand that this is the only piece of information that is evident publicly, and I understand the expectation of maximum possible transparency from stewards. Communication in this case was not great.

Second, your definition of accountability here is very selective and not useful. I stated that I was aware of the action and relevant evidence, and that I concurred with Amanda that it was necessary, but that the lock summary should be more descriptive. This review is holding other stewards accountable. If you wanted me to come here and call Amanda's actions "authoritarian" as you did (which is where I intuited the bad faith accusations from), despite my endorsement of the lock, that would be lying and I'm not going to do that. Accountability is not opposition for the sake of opposition, it is open review and discussion of others' actions.

Unfortunately, in cases that involve non-public information, by necessity those reviews and discussions occur privately. As you note, you've been a steward, and know how this works. I agree that more could and should have been done to make that clear, especially considering the standing of this user as an admin on a project. I appreciate the concerns you've raised here. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 02:37, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Billinghurst, forgot ping ^. Also noting that we have a stewards meeting soon, and I'll be bringing this up. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 02:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

@Vermont: Please read the whole paragraph and read words in the context of their expression. When referencing the "if" of a global ban decision of a sysop with 300k edits, using traditional definition 1 of wikt:authoritarian is not saying that an action is bad faith when we are talking the action of a steward where there is no ability to appeal. That is the action of an authority. If I wanted to say bad faith I would have said so.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:13, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Nataev, I haven't supported banning PlanespotterA320 globally, what are you talking about? I'm supporting an RFDA instead of GB on your community, because sockpuppetry is a kind of losing trust. Could you make it clear? Second, the RFC was closed speedily for not fulfilling the requirements and poorly formatting. Lemonaka (talk) 15:49, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, you proposed we desysop her (and went on to bludgeon the discussion). I've revised what I wrote above. P.S. You really should find a better translator. А то «Меня тебя не понимать». Nataev ^talk 03:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi all, just so you're aware, AmandaNP is busy with some important real-life issues currently but has asked me to respond on her behalf — AmandaNP would like to note that she wouldn't object to any steward unlocking the account, and will respond to the above comments and concerns at her earliest convenience — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 01:32, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

As this is a really unusual case, I suggest to open another formal global ban request. GZWDer (talk) 20:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

As an update, after discussion among stewards I’ve unlocked User:PlanespotterA320. This situation is best handled in a (properly formatted) global ban request. Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 20:41, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi all, sorry for the long delay in replying. It's been a difficult time. So when I made the lock initially, I was completely unaware that a global ban discussion had been attempted, even if it wasn't proper. Also, usually when one account is locked, all other sockpuppets are known to be locked. Also I had access to an email where this user was blocked on a wiki and had sent a harassing (I use that term very broadly here) email to another user. Email abuse + socking + previous lock in my head is what got me to lock the account. I hope this explains things. -- Amanda (she/her) 18:39, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

RespectCE was locked because it was my sock. This account is my ORIGINAL not a sock. It is not standard to lock original accounts sans discussion just because a sock was blocked for being a sock. There are many editors whose main accounts are not globally blocked who have blocked socks (even a former admin of ruwiki who used their sock to ask that I be punished for tagging copyright problems of Russian photos). I am in a bit of a difficult situation here and have tried to get other users to understand that, but I never intended to harass anyone. (If anyone is harassing, it's the folks who wished air raids on me for tagging copyright issues in Ukraine photos and have been giving me a lot of flak for my mistake of writing on Crimea). I don't know whats going on here but my original account here has never engaged in ban evasion, I was NEVER banned in Uzbek Wikipedia or other projects that I edit. (And you're probably aware of the very questionable nature of my ruwiki ban since the official pretense was my use of the word chauvanist, or more specifically, "chauvanist behaviors" [deemed to be "insulting colleagues"] in the context of highly concerning edits to content about a disliked minority) that people were demanding a ban of me for raising an RfC about it that Vermont closed despite uninvolved users from outside ruwiki agreeing that there was indeed a problem and ruwiki editors clear refusal to acknowledge any problem (instead just making personal attacks on me).--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Please Help me

Hi! Amanda (she/her) if you look at my contribution first, you won't see anything that would cause any blocking! look here, PirjanovNurlan without any reason, my candidacy for admin was removed. look here Why does the bureaucrat protect the election page? because people will vote for me. (Рахман3 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2022 (UTC))

If you think your opinion is correct, delete the 447 articles I've posted so far! I agree! I'd rather not contribute anything to Wikipedia than see a day like this! (Рахман3 (talk) 18:03, 26 December 2022 (UTC))

I await your reply (Рахман3 (talk) 06:35, 27 December 2022 (UTC))

It's about 2am here, I am in bed, and going to sleep. I will reply on SRP in the morning. -- Amanda (she/her) 07:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Sorry for bothering you, I’m talking about the Рахман3 participant. I still can’t understand why the conflict came out, I’m also a member of the Karakalpak Wikipedia, I also participate in the administrator’s elections, I recently put myself on the candidacy, if you don’t mind, look. The answer will be positive, How will we solve this issue with unlocking. QRNKS (talk) 19:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding what you are saying. Do you mean that you also tried to become an administrator recently and got removed? Can you provide me links/evidence of what you are talking about? (CC: @BRPever:) -- Amanda (she/her) 19:56, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Ms. Amanda, I will give another proof, Pirzhanov Nurlan blocked another admin with me, but after 1 hour he unblocked saying "you are needed", what does this mean? (Рахман3 (talk) 20:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC))

When you are mentioning evidence, you need to provide a link with it. I assume you are talking about the unblocking of Inosham? They unblocked a user that blocked themselves. I'm not sure I see the problem in that. -- Amanda (she/her) 20:34, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I see the problem you need! Do I need it for admin to block it, or is it correct to block it by deciding I don't need it? Don't you have to show the Wikipedia rules first to get blocked? Or is it according to the rules of Wikipedia to say that it is necessary and that it is not necessary? (Рахман3 (talk) 03:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC))

None of this is my opinion. You are making assumptions about what I think. Unblocking someone who blocked themselves (for whatever reason) is not a problematic thing. When it comes to your block, I still don't know why you were blocked. Now it is late here, my next reply likely won't be for a good while. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Inosham didn't block himself, Nurlan blocked him. (Рахман3 (talk) 04:39, 28 December 2022 (UTC))

As a reason for blocking me, he wrote the following words, which have absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia. For actions against the development of Karakalpak Wikipedia in social networks... (Рахман3 (talk) 04:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC))

If you don't believe me, you can change the For actions against the development of Karakalpak Wikipedia in social networks words I showed from English to Uzbek, and then you can check it by turning Uzbek to Karakalpak through the site. Рахман3 (talk) 04:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Inosham blocked themselves. Nurlan unblock (as in removed the block). -- Amanda (she/her) 05:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Is the reason for blocking me justified? (Рахман3 (talk) 06:14, 28 December 2022 (UTC))

I suggest you stop this. Amanda has already made it clear that she doesn't know why you were blocked. You are being impatient and unreasonable here and we won't be able to have a constructive discussion like this. Just wait for people to comment on the RFC. @QRNKS You can also make comments on the RFC page. BRP ^ever 07:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

BRP Which of my words are unreasonable? (Рахман3 (talk) 09:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC))

Delete all my articles. I am disgusted to be on this unfair site. Delete my account.🙏 Рахман3 (talk) 04:29, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok QRNKS (talk) 07:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@Amanda (she/her) Good afternoon. I am about to unblock,after you verify my request I can unblock Рахман3, for now I am a simple member. There is a discussion going on now. QRNKS (talk) 07:59, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I'm sorry to bother you, you're busy, it may not take long to delete, I'm talking about the administrator's choice of how long it will take to confirm, based on 3 upvotes, 1 upvote. discussion. QRNKS (talk) 15:55, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

StaleIP

Hello! Wouldn't want to take too much of your time, but can you help find some documentation about what {{StaleIP}} means in this context, or explain in short? Template:CheckUser Indicators is not very helpful. I suppose it means the IPs of older accounts are inaccessible to you due to their expiration from CU logs? Thanks! Gikü (talk) 10:23, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

You got it. That's correct. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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A reply from WMF concerning previous case.

If you need the all the content and you are still interested in this case, please have a look. Otherwise please ignore this. Thanks. Lemonaka (talk) 16:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

BS Wikiquote (and other BS projects)

You mentioned the discussion. OK, but where that discussion should be held? And by whom? There are no active local users on BS Wikiquote (except some IP-users with dubious or nonsense changes). Unfortunately, in terms of Bosnian language projects, users are concentrated almost exclusively on Wikipedia (and Wiktionary, occasionally, thanks mostly to contributions by user Barishan /who is Turkish and cannot speak Bosnian - sic!/; my contribution there is small, but I am keeping an eye on it). KWiki (talk) 01:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

The candidate must place a notice requesting the permission on the local village pump, administrators' noticeboard or a designated page for requesting permissions.

— Policy on Minimum voting requirements

If you have no votes for or against, that is fine, the discussion just has to be open for 7 days to give anyone the oppertunity to vote. -- Amanda (she/her) 02:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. I have put it to the voting, accordingly. I have asked admins on BS Wikipedia to vote because there are no others to ask. (Sad, I know, but that is the reality.) KWiki (talk) 14:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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SRP

Hi, you have marked a request as done without actually performing it. --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Ameisenigel:. I have fixed it and re-opened task T327605#8582413. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Something you may want to check back on

Johnny ser vid xwiki-contribs • xwiki-date ^{(ser vid alt)} • ST • IP info • WHOIS • robtex • gblock • glist • abuselog • ser vid bullseye

You glocked this user, a sneaky and persistent crosswiki vandal. I noticed though that they had made a comment whilst editing on simplewiki about "Ich habe die Socken" (I have the socks). Given that they had been stuffing about for a long time before anyone realised (so any socks may still be under the radar), it might do to run a checkuser if it hasn't already been done. Just my 50 cents. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mako001: The CU data is long since gone (aka Stale) for me or any other CU to look. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

 Self-trout

I read it as 2023. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 23:19, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Upload Photo

Can you tell me how to upload photo on this? https://hi.wikivoyage.org Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 13:33, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Affected by and then returning admin AAR22

Hi Amanda. I started sent the notifications after checking the admins on several wikis. This admin on dawiktionary has been affected by AAR22, has made contributions and logs as of 1st January. I would appreciate it if you would review as stewards in detail. --Uncitoyen^talk 22:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

There are several like that. If you can mark any like them on hold, I'll go through it with stewards and see what the consensus is. -- Amanda (she/her) 01:28, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. --Uncitoyen^talk 06:45, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi again Amanda, the N's process are already expired and I've added the comments. Also, the user on idwikisource you marked as on hold also wants to retain their rights. Regards. --Uncitoyen^talk 13:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I've handled 2/3 in the Ns. I will get around to opening the discussion on the steward ml today about all the on-hold ones with contributions or objections. I don't know the established procedure and want to get it right. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Global block request for VoidseekerNZ-linked IP

Hello, can 2404:4404:1758:400:0:0:0:0/64 xwiki-contribs • ST • IP info • WHOIS • robtex • gblock • glist • abuselog • bullseye please be globally blocked? This is VoidseekerNZ xwiki-contribs • xwiki-date ^(alt) • ST • IP info • WHOIS • robtex • gblock • glist • abuselog • bullseye evading their lock. The en:Powelliphanta patrickensis history makes it pretty clear what is going on, as do their contribs on commons. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 12:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Normally I'd decline because enwiki and commons can handle their own crap, and they are blocked on both projects locally...but I can't come up with a good way to write "no" and it won't hurt anything. So gblocked. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

They had also previously disrupted MediaWiki and Wikidata too. Basically, they got annoyed with the new Vector 2022 default on en.wiki, and began an elaborate troll campaign. They have indicated that their trolling is directed at all Wikimedia projects, hence why I requested a gblock even through it was blocked on commons and en.wiki. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 02:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

It is impossible to vote!

Although I am eligible and have voted in other elections, I can't figure out how to vote in this one! Krok6kola (talk) 00:08, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

If you are talking about steward elections, see Stewards/Elections_2023#Index. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:08, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

My permissions at arz wiki

Hello. I want to keep my advanced permissions, I was so busy recently, but I will be more active next months. What should I do exactly to keep it? --M777 ^✉ 00:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

I'll keep note of this. I don't fully have an answer at this time, but i'll let you know beforehand so you have a chance to reply. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Open meeting for patrollers

Hello, Amanda and anyone else watching this page: The mw:Editing team is starting a new project, mw:Edit check. They are particularly seeking the views of RecentChanges patrollers and other reviewers. One of the open questions is: When should the visual editor encourage people to add a citation?

The meeting will be this Friday, 3 March 2023. More information is available at mw:Editing team/Community Conversations#3 March 2023. I hope that you will be able to attend, but if you aren't, please consider leaving your advice to the team on the talk page. They would particularly value hearing about the citation standards at different Wikipedias, and also what you think the biggest problem is with the first edits made by new editors. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

AAR process dates of some wikis

Hi again. The process date of the wikis that you have made your notifications has come. These are half of the A's. Also trwikiqoute is waiting for notification. Thanks. --Uncitoyen^talk 07:52, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks like @Elton: handled in my absence for a few days. -- Amanda (she/her) 08:35, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Np Amanda. Thanks @Elton: and pawikisource should be done after 03 March because no response from community and user. --Uncitoyen^talk 13:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure why or how - but apparently I already did that one a month ago? -- Amanda (she/her) 15:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry. I didn't look in logs for this user so I didn't see done. I wrote this message because the notification was done on 3 February. I don't have any more details. --Uncitoyen^talk 17:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Delete a spam

Hi, please delete this article, and this item; they are created as a spam. Thanks in advance. Karim185.3 (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I can not delete the wikidata item. You need a Wikidata Admin for that. In terms of the article, unless it's something I've seen before (which it might be, the name sounds familair), Global sysops can assist you at GSR. -- Amanda (she/her) 22:57, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Check user

Dear Amanda, I don't find it wise to indicate user requests for user checks without valid reasons for violating the policy. The fact that someone told you that these accounts were created on the same day and time that I was blocked does not constitute, according to the policy, -Valid reasons include needing a block of the underlying IP or IP range, disruptive sockpuppetry, vote-stacking, and similar disruption where the technical evidence from running a check would prevent or reduce further disruption. - sufficient reason for even one checking.

even more so when he use you to expel user from the Greek wp. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Checkuser/2023-03#ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη@el.wikipedia ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 19:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your message, but I need to clarify a few things:

1. I did not rely on the evidence presented by the person on the SRCU to run the two checks that I did. I had my own evidence, which I don't have to document (and frankly when it comes to user disputes like this, it's better not to document/waste time with it). I could have said more clearly that I had my own evidence - and I'll keep that under advisement. The line you quote is to encourage users filing a request to provide sufficient information so that CUs/Stewards like me don't have to go digging for their own evidence. (Most of the time it comes without the evidence like in this case...but that's another matter)
2. The list you have says "includes" which implies that it's not limited to the list provided. It's not that it can only be those things.
3. The actual governing policies are: The CU policy which states "The tool is to be used to fight vandalism, spamming, to check for sockpuppet abuse, and to limit disruption of the project. It must be used only to prevent damage to any of the Wikimedia projects.", The privacy policy § To Protect You, Ourselves & Others (read the entire section), and ANPDP § Use and disclosure of nonpublic information § (a) (just that paragraph). Those are the three legal agreements I have to follow. What I'm getting at is those three policies give me a broad discretion of how I can use checkuser when it comes to protecting Wikipedia. As long as I can articulate why I ran a check to protect Wikipedia to the relevant authorities, I'm good. This includes perceived issues that do not have to be proven before I run a check. That said, I don't go checking every single vandal or anything like that, I limit myself to things that would only be productive to check in an effort to limit the exposure of personal data. Some communities get a little more restrictive with their local policies, but that's not in play here.
4. I never have checked your user account - in this check or any other check - the only two I checked this time were Johnnom11111 and Ggg1112222. Your account was not checked because I never saw enough evidence to run the check.
5. If you disagree with any of this or feel like I might not be telling the truth, you are welcome to contact the Ombuds Commission who reviews abuse of those three policies I outlined above and they can investigate me if they wish for the checks I did in this matter.

-- Amanda (she/her) 22:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

4. Sorry i didn't understand that. I thought that you compare my user account with Johnnom11111 and Ggg1112222 and you find no similarity. The same thinks and Focal. Didn't you? ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I'm unsure what you are asking. The only checks I did were on Johnnom11111 and Ggg1112222. No one else. -- Amanda (she/her) 00:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

It is my bad english...sorry. You check Johnnom11111 and Ggg1112222 each other or with my account? ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 17:19, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη: I did not check your account. Now or ever. I only checked Johnnom11111 and Ggg1112222. -- Amanda (she/her) 01:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

O.K.! thank you very much :) ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 01:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Two stewards - one request

why didn't you continue to check my account? it doesn't seem like good policy to have two stewards involved in one request. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Checkuser/2023-03#ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη@el.wikipedia_2 ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

As stated by another person in the other place you took this complaint to, there is nothing against it. In a medical sense (because of a recent incident) I did not have the required energy to think and process through the request last night. I slept overnight, had to go to work this morning, and just finished work 45 minutes ago. I just didn't get the chance. Beyond that, I was obviously tired because I didn't understand last night the point blank evidence that would have made me run the check just as Sotiale did. Nothing is amiss here except for the socking.

@FocalPoint: The Facebook posts are fine to have sent to stewards privately to handle the request, but not to be posted onwiki. That's a breach of privacy any way that you look it. Further, demanding that I proceed with the checkuser is absolutely inappropriate and further hurts your request. I'm not sure if that's a language issue or not, but just for future advice. That said, I do apologize for not completely understanding the graveness of the evidence last night. As I noted above, I didn't have the medical energy to understand what was going on. I'm happy with Sotiale taking it up in my absence and presenting the result they did. Please also see the above section where I'm trying to remain as a neutral party, I'm not trying to take sides in this - in fact, the exact opposite is true - I don't want to be involved except when you need stewards.

@Ιπποκράτης2020: I just wanted you to know about this thread and the thread above and thank you for your patience in this matter while I was unable to process and understand the request. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Amanda for dealing with all of this stuff! :) I would also like ,as a fellow greek, to apologize for my compatriot's annoying and disruptive behavior.Ιπποκράτης2020 (talk) 05:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Amanda, many thanks for your comments. No, it is not a language issue, though it would be a nice way out for me - I appreciate that you gave me the benefit of the doubt. It was simply an error of judgement (and not allowing myself enough time to look at my reply a couple of times before I posted it). My last sentence was completely unnecessary and as you put it, it hurt my request. Apologies.

On the other issue you mentioned: Please correct me if I am wrong: If users are allowed to publicize their participation, with links, to a facebook group which supports wikipedia, isn't it obvious, that links to the same facebook group are allowed onwiki anyway?

--FocalPoint (talk) 16:10, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

No worries, stuff happens. It's just a note for the future.

So I can't see the contents of the facebook group involved, so I can't comment on the specific group stuff. I'll try and speak in general terms. Linking to a facebook group related to Wikipedia is generically is allowed. Linking to posts on a facebook group related to/organzied for the Wikipedia purpose, I wouldn't have issue with generally, unless it's a post saying so and so lives at whatever address or stuff like that. Linking to private groups and private posts (which is some of what I removed) within groups becomes problematic, because oversighters can't see the content, and if it's reported, we have to air on the side of user safety and may cause those types of links to get oversighted because we can't see what is behind it. Linking to any non-wikipedia related group or personal facebook profiles, especially when it contains personal information in it, is prohibited, unless the user has directly linked to it themselves.

I know that's a complicated answer, but it's kind how it is because it's not completely black and white. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:52, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

It is not a complicated answer as far as I am concerned. It is exactly as I thought it should be. In this particular case, the original post was in such a open acess wikipedia-supporting group setup by the user in question, then some of the postings there were suppressed by the second user managing this group due to their aggresive character, and the latest news (I cannot even find where I read this in elwiki), is that the second user managing the group has removed the group altogether, hence the links that you removed, were linking to the personal page of the user under question (who copy-pasted them from the wikipedia supporting group, to their personal page). It all makes sense now (at least to to me _ I understand that what I wrote above must appear complicated to you). FocalPoint (talk) 07:06, 16 March 2023 (UTC)