User:לערי ריינהארט/remarks

This is a subpage of User:Gangleri created to list remarks about various Wikipedias. You can extract individual items and move them to places more appropriate to that subject. If you do so, I kindly ask you to insert links to the places, where those items have been moved. Please preserve the titels of the sections here. Thanks!

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Homage

Please remember: There maight be related technical aspects, maintenance and organisatorical aspects, documentational aspects and issues related to easy guiding of newcommers / non freaks.
Please insert <strike> </strike> if issues are fixed. Thanks!
see also remarks about other Wikipedias: de, en, eo, ro
Please do not click here!

link to [[w:ro:Discuţie Utilizator:Gangleri]] ~ [[w:ro:User_talk:Gangleri]]

w:ro:Discuţie Utilizator:Gangleri - [[w:ro:Discuţie Utilizator:Gangleri]] - failed
w:ro:Discuţie_Utilizator:Gangleri - [[w:ro:Discuţie_Utilizator:Gangleri]] - failed
w:ro:Discuţie_Utilizator:Gangleri - [[w:ro:Discu%C5%A3ie_Utilizator:Gangleri]] - failed
w:ro:discuţiile mele de utilizator - [http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discu%C5%A3ie_Utilizator:Gangleri w:ro:discuţiile mele de utilizator] - successful

Note: The links will neither work in meta.wikipedia nor in en:wikipedia and eo:wikipedia (and maybe in some others).

reported as ~~bugzilla:645~~; is a duplicate of bugzilla:563 Gangleri 20:05, 2004 Oct 9 (UTC)

InterWiki link translation

Please note that w:en:User talk:Gangleri#From Mike.28z.29 = [[w:en:User talk:Gangleri#From Mike.28z.29]] links properly and w:en:User talk:Gangleri#From Mike(z) = [[w:en:User talk:Gangleri#From Mike(z)]] fails. Last will miss the HTML anchor / HTML anchor. Regards Gangleri 18:52, 2004 Oct 9 (UTC)

Note: Please note that inside en.wikipedia works properly. See w:en:User:Gangleri/remarks#proper link translation

reported as bugzilla:670 Gangleri 217.233.117.137 01:49, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Category:InterWiki and / or Template:InterWiki

List of items to include there:
- Help:Interwiki linking
- Interwiki map
- Interwiki link problem
  - should include at least in discussion known buzilla bugs, at least summary and reference
- list of open questions as
  - InterWiki usage of Images ~~(I found the discussion somewhere. Please insert the link from meta if you know it. Thanks! )~~
    - Sharing images across projects Gangleri 06:21, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)
  - InterWiki usage of "What links here" (not a global all Wikipedia one) but somtehing like http://xx.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=:yy:target
- where to list Invalid InterWiki links? see section Invalid InterWiki links (list?) below

broken HTML code

Help:Interwiki links see shortcut on the right Gangleri 22:24, 2004 Oct 10 (UTC)

Invalid InterWiki links (list?)

Definition / Preliminary:

Please let me know what a Valid InterWiki link is and / or where to find a en:Syntax for it.
- At Help:Special characters? Gangleri 05:58, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)
If documentation has changed it would be a great help if there a Change history would be available too.

Note: Getting avare of an invalid InterWiki link could be browser / setup / configuration depending, somone can see the link and anotherone not. Using Status RESOLVED and Resolution WORKSFORME does not solve the problem.

should they be listed at the source Wikipedia and target Wikipedia?
should meta have a list about where these links are located?
should a section drop a note at meta be available, if the language can not be understoud?

should links to related known buzilla bugs (see section above) be included

Invalid links (lists)

Definition / Preliminary:

they differ from one Wikipedia to the other;
not all Valid links used inside one Wikipedia can be used as InterWiki links;
- See bugzilla:645 (and bugzilla:563). That example ~~w:ro:Discuţie Utilizator:Gangleri~~ <> [1] use national special characters not for an article as w:ro:Timişoara == [2]. First one would fail, seccond would work.
Because there maight be not enough resources to specify all details in English (en:Syntax, Change history ...) it should be known whom to address if problems occur. Nevertheless for Wikipedias with the number of articles greather then x documentation should be available.

Note: many items from the section above aply, the distinction is only that these links are INSIDE a Wikipedia

many xx.wikipedia should have an equivalent to en:Wikipedia:Invalid links and all should be linked together
a list at meta should be available too
should a section drop a note at meta be available, if the language can not be understoud?
w:en:Wikipedia:Invalid article names added today: 21:45, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

Strategies

Because of the existence of such links
- it should be investigated how these links have been created, what version of the Wikimedia software was used at that time, what browsers where used by the visitors / authors, how to avoid this in the future
  - example: See [3] an entry created by en:User:Wiglaf
  - I contacted him and hope to get some feedback [4].
- maybe a bot should detect the existing ones and liste them at known locations (mentioned in the new places)

Category:Wikipedia maintenance and / or Template:Wikipedia maintenance

so far there are only en:Category:Wikipedia maintenance and / or en:Template:Wikipedia maintenance
en:Repair and maintenance (and maybe also en:Maintenance) should mention en:Wikipedia:Maintenance.
it should be possible to easyly find the pages also the new ones proposed either at meta Category:Wikipedia maintenance and / or meta Template:Wikipedia maintenance
Maybe the pages could be called also "Where to ..."
it should contain also:
- meta Dupilcate articles
- meta Multiple redirects
- Broken HTML code (see some sections above)
- and all the things causing problems
Who takes care about what? Would be nice to know what person / group to address.

Category:Wikipedia Syntax and / or Template:Wikipedia Syntax

... most of the items from the maintenance section above applies

Cultural specific issues

If you write about the German en:Chancellor en:Gerhard Schröder do not write de:Gerhard. He was called in this way in scool, by neighbours in childhood ... Use Chancellor Schröder or Gerhard Schröder.
If you write about en:Björk do not write about her using Guðmundsdóttir, her en:fathername. When you write abou en: Einar Már Guðmundsson use first the en:full name later only the en:first name is:Einar or is:Einar Már. Writing en:Guðmundsson would remind him about the neighbours calling him the son of is:Guðmundur.
If you link to a person in eo.wikipedia (where family names are written in capital letters) use the direct InterWiki link to Nobel Prize in economic sciences winner eo:Reinhard SELTEN and not a REDIRECTed spelling as eo:Reinhard Selten. You may miss the target.
... more examples should be added ~~(at meta)~~ ...
Some languages will use en:family name en:first name as Japanease, Hungarian ... . Of cause in the English Wikipedia the other form will be used. Attention should be paid only if Inter WIKI links are used. Example: hu:Bartók Béla == en:Béla Bartók.
Hispanic names (also in Catalan ...) are using double family names. Attention should be paid only if Inter WIKI links are used. Example: ca:Joan Lluís Vives i Marc == en:Juan Luís Vives. Gangleri 23:28, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

indications about bibliographic item(s) (see Catalog)

See en:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#indications_about_bibliographic_item.28s.29_.28see_Catalog.29
~~See en:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#indications about bibliographic item(s) (see Catalog)~~ this InterWiki link fails, does not go to the anchor. reported as bugzilla:670 Gangleri 01:51, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

differences regarding preview of new section / coment

The preview of User_talk:Gangleri&action=edit&section=new, User:Gangleri/remarks&action=edit&section=new, ... should display the preview of the header too. ~~I have seen it working sometimes, in some Wikipedias somewhere ....~~

It works (the title is displayed in the preview) if you edit an existing comment. Gangleri 21:33, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

about spam

I was thinking a lot about spam. At many User:xxxx pages I have seen full e-mail addresses witten as 'address@domain.extension (minimal variant). Writing address at domain dot extension is very common. What about using images a template {{email|address@domain.extension}} would allow to have a common en:look and feel. Gangleri 02:48, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

different InterWiki behaviour

w:ja:利用者:Gangleri#InterWiki, w:ru:Участник:Gangleri, w:ru:участник:Gangleri are working only in en.wikipedia and not in xx.wikipedia. Gangleri 01:41, 2004 Oct 23 (UTC)